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#51 FIipMode
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Is this real life? No more people raping with kill-streaks to get more killstreaks?

The no stopping power isn't a big deal to me, I wasn't annoyed by it as most people were.

I also like that you can tell what killstreak a person has from a distance, and they nerfed the douchey dropshotting, also a nice move. If all this works out I'll have to give some serious props to Treyarch.

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#52 Pbjb989
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For me, it all depends on the multiplayer weapon balancing.

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#53 ironcreed
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Here is a decent match. Is it just me or does it look like it plays a bit faster?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8YLcHSa1c&feature=player_embedded

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#54 jerkface96
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[QUOTE="jerkface96"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

I think people need to stop holding prejudices against Black Ops. It looks great

OB-47

just like people need to stop holding prejudicing KZ3 lol

Is this a reference to something I said about KZ3 earlier? Because I have always hyped KZ3. If not nevermind

haha no it isnt. i was just saying exactly what you were saying, just with a different game
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#55 nitromuffin
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looks good, day 1 for me

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#56 M8ingSeezun
Member since 2007 • 2313 Posts

It will be more balanced but still crap for two reasons: 1) More balanced but still unbalanced, there are pump action grenade launchers and still stupid perks like scavenger and last stand. 2) The COD crowd is now almost entirely noobs who will no doubt flock to Black Ops, making it a camping etc. mess.gamebreakerz__

3) Shorter SP campaign, probably less than 2 hours :lol:

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#57 finalstar2007
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So.... everyone's apparently forgiven Activision? There used to be such hatred for them with the IW mess, annualizing Modern Warfare and the $15 DLC. No more boycotts of MW2 or the map packs?

It's all forgive and forget?

VoodooHak

Hate should be more towards Activision tho and not call of duty, CoD is pretty fun

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#58 finalstar2007
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wow thats just frustrating for people who mastered sound Who**ng and drop shotting andsetting up killstreaks a smart ways andall that and was smacking kids cuz they didnt have the skill to play at such a fast pace and have good reaction....they making it just like any other boring slow FPS now just because a bunch of ppl cried about getting pwnd...man i think im going to cancel my reserve now thats just heartbreaking

OfficerLeach_

Yea sigh, i hate that their removing dropshotting :(

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#59 streetridaz
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I can't wait for some black ops!

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#60 Brownesque
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Still no.

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This.....they're implementing superficial changes. "Oh look its not totally OP any more." Just turn back the clock, make the multiplayer mechanics like Call of Duty 2/3, and you'll have it. Killstreaks, perks, levelups, unlockables....those are the root of the problem, and they haven't touched those. And to the OP, no I'm not interested, because there are plenty of other games on the market without all this crap they're trying to tone down but haven't figured out how to remove yet. I've got games where if I get shot in the face with a helicopter, it's because a player's piloting it, and if I shoot it down, he goes down with the damn thing.
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#61 finalstar2007
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Here is a decent match. Is it just me or does it look like it plays a bit faster?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8YLcHSa1c&feature=player_embedded

ironcreed

Looks amazing! looking forward to use dogs again

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#62 tonitorsi
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Here is a decent match. Is it just me or does it look like it plays a bit faster?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8YLcHSa1c&feature=player_embedded

ironcreed

Yeah, you're right.

That looks a lot more fast paced than MW2. Or maybe the guy playing the demo had the sensitivity on high. Still, I'm not going to say he's very good after missing some close encounters where instead of going rambo shooting he could have used the knife...which its the purpose it's there for.

Great find. It resembles Cod4 so much. Which is an excellent thing.

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#63 Doom_HellKnight
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Here is a decent match. Is it just me or does it look like it plays a bit faster?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8YLcHSa1c&feature=player_embedded

tonitorsi

Yeah, you're right.

That looks a lot more fast paced than MW2. Or maybe the guy playing the demo had the sensitivity on high. Still, I'm not going to say he's very good after missing some close encounters where instead of going rambo shooting he could have used the knife...which its the purpose it's there for.

Great find. It resembles Cod4 so much. Which is an excellent thing.

Well, he also has capture the flag footage, which seems more in line with the speed we're used to. Looks good either way.

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#64 ImprovedMind
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kz3 is better

Vader993
Just as good as KZ2's multiplayer? You know the 'Halo killer' muplitplayer... oh wait nobody plays it anymore because it wasn't fun, original, or skillful. I went online a few days ago and there were only 2000 people online for KZ2. Dead multiplayer in Killzone 2 is dead.
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#66 Crotazoa8
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Will it be more balanced? Yes. Will it be fun? Who knows.
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#67 AiurProtoss
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No Beta for this game I am very skeptical about this game there are going to be so many glitches and exploits when the game comes out.
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#68 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="njean777"]

I dont agree many gamers play COD. I for one played MW2 up until now (waiting for black ops :D)

I just thank treyarch for making the shotgun a main weapon THANK YOU so much that was my only complaint about MW2. Killstreaks are easy to evade and i never really got mad at any of them.

ocstew

If that was your only complaint with MW2 you should probably see an optomitrist because you are blind.

Killstreaks penetrate almost anything........

They penetrate nothing at all, If there's a harrier up just go inside, same with chopper, but stay away from doors because they can shoot into doors and get you with splash damage.Or even better then going inside, if you die have a Cold Blooded, stinger class ready to go. That's my biggest beef with MW2, everyone uses secondaries and LW, M around the map so I end up being to ONLY guy shooting down air support. EVen worse is since they have lightweight, they dont have CB which means they're getting killed every 2 seconds if it's chopper gunner or ac 130. Any other KS doesn't even make it into the map when I'm on.

Treyarch says this is the most balanced COD to date.

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#69 xX-Incubus-Xx
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No Beta for this game I am very skeptical about this game there are going to be so many glitches and exploits when the game comes out.AiurProtoss
So get it on PS3 where you won't be playing with all the rotten jtagers and getting hacked lobbies and such.

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#70 xX-Incubus-Xx
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[QUOTE="Vader993"]

kz3 is better

ImprovedMind

Just as good as KZ2's multiplayer? You know the 'Halo killer' muplitplayer... oh wait nobody plays it anymore because it wasn't fun, original, or skillful. I went online a few days ago and there were only 2000 people online for KZ2. Dead multiplayer in Killzone 2 is dead.

And it won MP of the year when it released alongside Halo 3.

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#71 AtlanticRock
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Yay Treyarch, Nay Infinity Ward

Postal_Guy

This.

Don't know why so many people hated on them, they made good games. IW fanboys just like to put down the competition no matter what.

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#72 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="Postal_Guy"]

Yay Treyarch, Nay Infinity Ward

AtlanticRock

This.

Don't know why so many people hated on them, they made good games. IW fanboys just like to put down the competition no matter what.

Treyarch has yet to patch the MP40....

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#73 OfficerLeach_
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

Here is a decent match. Is it just me or does it look like it plays a bit faster?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8YLcHSa1c&feature=player_embedded

tonitorsi

Yeah, you're right.

That looks a lot more fast paced than MW2. Or maybe the guy playing the demo had the sensitivity on high. Still, I'm not going to say he's very good after missing some close encounters where instead of going rambo shooting he could have used the knife...which its the purpose it's there for.

Great find. It resembles Cod4 so much. Which is an excellent thing.

default kniving is for noobs because their hands already on the button...good people play on tactical with insane sensitivitybecause dropshotting is way more effective and would be used morethen just kniving everything...get good kid

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#74 goblaa
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CoD's kill streak system is still backwards.

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#75 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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Yay, even less recoil on guns.:|

No recoil plus fast killing guns = annoying.

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#76 JangoWuzHere
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I think people need to stop holding prejudices against Black Ops. It looks great

OB-47
Indeed, this game looks AMAZING so far. I would buy it for just the single player and multiplayer alone, but adding stuff like Zombie mode and spec ops adds icing on the cake.
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#77 Jebus213
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I really wish they could just remove all perks, killstreaks, and attatchments and bring back pure guns and skill.

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#78 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

I think people need to stop holding prejudices against Black Ops. It looks great

JangoWuzHere

Indeed, this game looks AMAZING so far. I would buy it for just the single player and multiplayer alone, but adding stuff like Zombie mode and spec ops adds icing on the cake.

I have not heard anything about spec ops being in BO.

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#79 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Still no.

Brownesque

This.....they're implementing superficial changes. "Oh look its not totally OP any more." Just turn back the clock, make the multiplayer mechanics like Call of Duty 2/3, and you'll have it. Killstreaks, perks, levelups, unlockables....those are the root of the problem, and they haven't touched those.

And to the OP, no I'm not interested, because there are plenty of other games on the market without all this crap they're trying to tone down but haven't figured out how to remove yet. I've got games where if I get shot in the face with a helicopter, it's because a player's piloting it, and if I shoot it down, he goes down with the damn thing.

Uhhh those are what people love(including I.) I would hate it if they went back to the bare bones multiplayer of CoD2...or even3(shutter.)

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#80 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="OB-47"]

I think people need to stop holding prejudices against Black Ops. It looks great

Person0

Indeed, this game looks AMAZING so far. I would buy it for just the single player and multiplayer alone, but adding stuff like Zombie mode and spec ops adds icing on the cake.

I have not heard anything about spec ops being in BO.

I heard Spec ops is in this game, but just called by a different name.
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#81 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"] Indeed, this game looks AMAZING so far. I would buy it for just the single player and multiplayer alone, but adding stuff like Zombie mode and spec ops adds icing on the cake.JangoWuzHere

I have not heard anything about spec ops being in BO.

I heard Spec ops is in this game, but just called by a different name.

I dont think it is,just zombies and that ai raining mode which is not the same as spec ops.
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#82 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="jerkface96"] just like people need to stop holding prejudicing KZ3 lol jerkface96

Is this a reference to something I said about KZ3 earlier? Because I have always hyped KZ3. If not nevermind

haha no it isnt. i was just saying exactly what you were saying, just with a different game

Ah okay because KZ3 looks pretty good too and is guaranteed a PS3 hit

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#83 psn8214
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Looks amazing! Haters gonna' hate... and miss a great game! :P

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#84 gamebreakerz__
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I really wish they could just remove all perks, killstreaks, and attatchments and bring back pure guns and skill.

Jebus213
Highly unlikely since the COD crowd gag that stuff. IMO COD4 struck a good balance between customisation etc. and skill, where as MW2 just went crazy.
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#85 enterawesome
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Looks good, but I don't like the removal of drop shots. Still, they made a lot of solid changes and tweaks, it should be a lot better than MW2.
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#86 Brownesque
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Still no.

JangoWuzHere

This.....they're implementing superficial changes. "Oh look its not totally OP any more." Just turn back the clock, make the multiplayer mechanics like Call of Duty 2/3, and you'll have it. Killstreaks, perks, levelups, unlockables....those are the root of the problem, and they haven't touched those.

And to the OP, no I'm not interested, because there are plenty of other games on the market without all this crap they're trying to tone down but haven't figured out how to remove yet. I've got games where if I get shot in the face with a helicopter, it's because a player's piloting it, and if I shoot it down, he goes down with the damn thing.

Uhhh those are what people love(including I.) I would hate it if they went back to the bare bones multiplayer of CoD2...or even3(shutter.)


What you've just stumbled on is the revelation that the core gameplay of Call of Duty is bad and the only reason you play is to unlock new crap.

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#87 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] This.....they're implementing superficial changes. "Oh look its not totally OP any more." Just turn back the clock, make the multiplayer mechanics like Call of Duty 2/3, and you'll have it. Killstreaks, perks, levelups, unlockables....those are the root of the problem, and they haven't touched those.

And to the OP, no I'm not interested, because there are plenty of other games on the market without all this crap they're trying to tone down but haven't figured out how to remove yet. I've got games where if I get shot in the face with a helicopter, it's because a player's piloting it, and if I shoot it down, he goes down with the damn thing.Brownesque

Uhhh those are what people love(including I.) I would hate it if they went back to the bare bones multiplayer of CoD2...or even3(shutter.)


What you've just stumbled on is the revelation that the core gameplay of Call of Duty is bad and the only reason you play is to unlock new crap.

I think the gameplay is good....but I also enjoy unlocking new weapons and completing challenges. Gives the game more replay value.

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#88 jessmaster13
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I really wish they could just remove all perks, killstreaks, and attatchments and bring back pure guns and skill.

Jebus213

It's called barebones dawg

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#89 XboximusPrime
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im only excited for the game for Singleplayer. Hope they do a good port on al consoles so everyone gets to enjoy it.

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#90 finalstar2007
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Acitivision need to make an online only Call of Duty game. or better yet a Call of Duty game where PS3 owners have the ability to play against Xbox360 owners. nothing is impossible i know for sure doing such game is possible. should be lots of fun

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#92 King-Espi
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Uhhh those are what people love(including I.) I would hate it if they went back to the bare bones multiplayer of CoD2...or even3(shutter.)

JangoWuzHere


What you've just stumbled on is the revelation that the core gameplay of Call of Duty is bad and the only reason you play is to unlock new crap.

I think the gameplay is good....but I also enjoy unlocking new weapons and completing challenges. Gives the game more replay value.

No, it gives the game a fake sense of replay value. Everyone moved on from CoD4 to WaW and thento MW2, and everyone is going to move from MW2 to BO and there is no reason to go to a previous version. Why? Because the gameplay in CoD isterrible, boring and the only thing "saving" it is unlockables and challenges which are the same in almost every game, give or take a few. These challenges are nothing new, almost anyone who played games before would make up their own challenges. Only diffence is, the game didn't say "HEY U COMPLETED THIS IRRELVENT CHALLENGE, HERE'S SOME IRRELEVENT EXP TO GO WITH IT!"

I miss the days where replay value came from gameplay actually being good. Now replay value is based off of how many useless bulletpoint features the game has.

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No, it gives the game a fake sense of replay value. Everyone moved on from CoD4 to WaW and thento MW2, and everyone is going to move from MW2 to BO and there is no reason to go to a previous version. Why? Because the gameplay in CoD isterrible, boring and the only thing "saving" it is unlockables and challenges which are the same in almost every game, give or take a few. These challenges are nothing new, almost anyone who played games before would make up their own challenges. Only diffence is, the game didn't say "HEY U COMPLETED THIS IRRELVENT CHALLENGE, HERE'S SOME IRRELEVENT EXP TO GO WITH IT!"

I miss the days where replay value came from gameplay actually being good. Now replay value is based off of how many useless bulletpoint features the game has.

Or you could just like the game for what it is, the challenges are there if you want to do them. There's plenty of people that I know who still play COD4, and hate MW2. You dont have to do the challenges or unlock everything in the game to enjoy it. Just pick the play style you want to play, and go from there.

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#94 MassiveKaos
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I dont know but am i the only one who thinks that NOT making killstreak kills count towards your next killstreak a bad move? I dont see how changing it to not stacking will help campers.

In MW2 you get the harriers, camp10 seconds while it gets 2 kills and call in your pave low and then camp another 10 seconds until you have the chopper, use and then run out of camping.

On Black ops if i get to 7 KS theres no way im moving from that spot or rushing around retardedlyuntil i get to 9 then11 when im that close. So campings gonne be even worse especially sas you have to get the kills with your gun so people are gonna eb comping for even longer.

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#95 finalstar2007
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I dont know but am i the only one who thinks that NOT making killstreak kills count towards your next killstreak a bad move? I dont see how changing it to not stacking will help campers.

In MW2 you get the harriers, camp10 seconds while it gets 2 kills and call in your pave low and then camp another 10 seconds until you have the chopper, use and then run out of camping.

On Black ops if i get to 7 KS theres no way im moving from that spot or rushing around retardedlyuntil i get to 9 then11 when im that close. So campings gonne be even worse especially sas you have to get the kills with your gun so people are gonna eb comping for even longer.

MassiveKaos

and this is why i think the RC car will be somthing cool to have, 3 kills and use it to go around hunting such campers. guess will see