can 360 or ps3 run crysis at its bare min
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I know I have already done this a couple of times in the past, might as well give it another go.
Console memory limitations and streaming explained.
In order to get a giant map to work in limited memory, say a continent or larger, the map is divided into cells containing instances of events and content. Only the cells surrounding the player are loaded into memory, as they move around old cells are removed from memory while new ones are added. With this you can make a game world as big as you want, the only real limits is the development budget and disk storage space. To the player the world seems seamless, they may get a performance hiccup as new cells are loaded every now and then but it appears like a vast world to them.
The problem with this is player interactivity is limited by the cells currently present in memory, on a fixed hardware platform like consoles the interactive distance is likely fixed to the exact range of the loaded cells. Anything outside the loaded area (yellow) is none interactive, likely using low resource place holders like LOD objects until they are in interactive range. Any enemies or buildings outside of the players interactive bubbles don't exist until they are in range.
When a game loads the entire level into memory interactivity is now no longer limited to within loaded cells, anything that's in visible range is interactive. The only problem with this is the map sized is limited by the platforms memory amount; with loading screens between each level.
The higher the average memory a platform tends to have the larger the maps can be while supporting Crysis like interactivity, on PC when 2GB ram is typical even on none gaming systems; games can support Crysis sized maps. But you are not going to get that onto consoles, not without dividing the maps into cells suitable for streaming into 256mb ram, which as just explained would remove a lot of large scale interactivity that has come to be expected from Crysis.
How far back you can scale the graphics is irrelevant if you don't have enough memory to even run the game.
I know I have already done this a couple of times in the past, might as well give it another go.
Console memory limitations and streaming explained.
In order to get a giant map to work in limited memory, say a continent or larger, the map is divided into cells containing instances of events and content. Only the cells surrounding the player are loaded into memory, as they move around old cells are removed from memory while new ones are added. With this you can make a game world as big as you want, the only real limits is the development budget and disk storage space. To the player the world seems seamless, they may get a performance hiccup as new cells are loaded every now and then but it appears like a vast world to them.
The problem with this is player interactivity is limited by the cells currently present in memory, on a fixed hardware platform like consoles the interactive distance is likely fixed to the exact range of the loaded cells. Anything outside the loaded area (yellow) is none interactive, likely using low resource place holders like LOD objects until they are in interactive range. Any enemies or buildings outside of the players interactive bubbles don't exist until they are in range.
When a game loads the entire level into memory interactivity is now no longer limited to within loaded cells, anything that's in visible range is interactive. The only problem with this is the map sized is limited by the platforms memory amount; with loading screens between each level.
The higher the average memory a platform tends to have the larger the maps can be while supporting Crysis like interactivity, on PC when 2GB ram is typical even on none gaming systems; games can support Crysis sized maps. But you are not going to get that onto consoles, not without dividing the maps into cells suitable for streaming into 256mb ram, which as just explained would remove a lot of large scale interactivity that has come to be expected from Crysis.
How far back you can scale the graphics is irrelevant if you don't have enough memory to even run the game.
AnnoyedDragon
Brilliant explanation :) and anyone who had played Crysis will understand that there are parts in Crysis where you will target a tank or enemy from across the map with your rocket launcher. You could take that draw distanceout and substitute with LOD objectsbut then that is precisely the point at which it becomes Crysis Instincts!
To help defuse another argument, can someone explain why every part of a Crysis level needs to be in there at once? Explain why you can't, say, remove some of the trees or side assets or simplify the mountains and so on so as to reduce the size of the level itself to within tolerances.I know I have already done this a couple of times in the past, might as well give it another go.
Console memory limitations and streaming explained.
In order to get a giant map to work in limited memory, say a continent or larger, the map is divided into cells containing instances of events and content. Only the cells surrounding the player are loaded into memory, as they move around old cells are removed from memory while new ones are added. With this you can make a game world as big as you want, the only real limits is the development budget and disk storage space. To the player the world seems seamless, they may get a performance hiccup as new cells are loaded every now and then but it appears like a vast world to them.
The problem with this is player interactivity is limited by the cells currently present in memory, on a fixed hardware platform like consoles the interactive distance is likely fixed to the exact range of the loaded cells. Anything outside the loaded area (yellow) is none interactive, likely using low resource place holders like LOD objects until they are in interactive range. Any enemies or buildings outside of the players interactive bubbles don't exist until they are in range.
When a game loads the entire level into memory interactivity is now no longer limited to within loaded cells, anything that's in visible range is interactive. The only problem with this is the map sized is limited by the platforms memory amount; with loading screens between each level.
The higher the average memory a platform tends to have the larger the maps can be while supporting Crysis like interactivity, on PC when 2GB ram is typical even on none gaming systems; games can support Crysis sized maps. But you are not going to get that onto consoles, not without dividing the maps into cells suitable for streaming into 256mb ram, which as just explained would remove a lot of large scale interactivity that has come to be expected from Crysis.
How far back you can scale the graphics is irrelevant if you don't have enough memory to even run the game.
AnnoyedDragon
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