Can any game actually be a 10/10? *Poll*

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

Ppl are overreacting over this, even if neither GTA/MGS4 deserve a 10 they are still amazing games. If you make 9.5 the best score there is, that would be the same as the 10 to me and those games would get that.

And no game deserves a 10 in the sense of being perfect, now it's dumbed down ''prime'' version doesn't mean much in that sense.

With a point 5 system, yes, in my opinion . A 9.5 or 10 is much difference .

GTA4 scored a 10 but its flaws included- lack of content compared to previous versions & slightly iffy melee combat controls- so IMO its more a 9.8 but the hype about it was so great Its easy to see how the flaws were overlooked.CwlHeddwyn

Thats all you can come up with?

What about the insane mission repitition in the single player campaign? The bevy of bugs and glitches? Unacceptable amount of popup and visual tearing/blurring? MGS4 is much the same, a game with plenty of flaws.

Thats not to say that I disgaree with the 10/10 rating. A prime game isn't perfect, however, it gives that impression to alot of people. I think a 10/10 rating is misleading when reviewers like the ones at gamespot list all the pros of a game and none of the cons.

Look at their GTA4 review for an example. If you want to give the game a 10/10 fine, but it is still your duty to list the game's flaws because we all agree that no game is perfect. "Occasional problems with friendly AI" and "Some minor visual quirks." doesn't cut it.

10/10 is prime, not perfect. Gamespot says it themselves. So back up your own claim and stop treating the games as if they are perfect.

Also, everyone upset with these "prime" scores better realize that there will be plenty more games achieving that rank in the future. Gamespots ranking system now doesnt consider 10/10 perfect, so they will be giving that score to many games that would have been a 9.5 under the previous system. Like mgs4 and gta4.

10/10 now is exactly the same as 9.5/10 a year ago.

Yes,theres a few here.

i alreaddy expained myself in another thread! i just think that gamespot isn't the gamespot anymore from, lets say, three years ago! sure, MGSV and GTAV are awsome games! but i think gamespot is giving away too much high scores lattely! guy"s that are longer here know that, others don't! a ten was special, now bang, two in a month! you will say it ain't true, but it woudn't have happened with greg kasavan around!

i think it has also to do with the new reviewing system! halo 3, orange box, ssbb, crysis, world in conflict, super mario galaxy! all 9.5 games! and what does a reviewer do with a game that is better, they can't keep giving 9.5's away! a ten ... maybe it would have gotten a 9.8 or 9.9! i don't know, maybe a ten! but i miss the old gamespot, this one is more commercial. a ten is something revolutionary i think :).

10 doesn't mean the game is perfect, i don't know why that's so hard to understand for some people. And of course 10 should be reachable for games, if it's not in the end it's just the same thing as 9.5 would be the highest possible score so the score would efectively be 9.5/9.5.Tykain

Lets go back to grade 1 math people.... If you have 10 pieces of pizza and you and a friend both eat 5 pieces of pizza each, then you have eaten 100% of the pizza.

Also if you score a 100% on your grade 1 math tests, which I'm beginning to believe didn't happen for some of you, then that means the score is perfect.... not "prime"

A ten just means it isn't going to get much better any time soon, or top of the heap. Of course once in a while games like these are developed. You'd expect multiple 9.5's a year, but 10's aren't given every year. That's pretty much the story. If the scoring would end at a 9.5, you'd get 9.5's every year. You wouldn't be able to pinpoint a game that stands out even more. 11Marcel

yes, and before the new reviewing system you could pinpoint that out with a 9.7-9.8-9.9 ... but no you can't! so it's easyer to give a game a ten if you want to pinpoint it out! agreed?

Yes a game can be a 10. 10 = Prime not perfect.

If a 10 would be impossible to get then 9.5 would be the highest and then that would be the prime score and then 9.5 would be impossible to get because you can't get the highest score so then 9.0 would be the highest score and then it goes on and on and on until we don't have a score anymore.JLF1

lol nice /thread

10 doesn't mean the game is perfect, i don't know why that's so hard to understand for some people. And of course 10 should be reachable for games, if it's not in the end it's just the same thing as 9.5 would be the highest possible score so the score would efectively be 9.5/9.5.Tykain

No. Omg do you people not understand? It would still be 9.5/10. Just because 100% is unreachable doesn't mean it becomes 9.5/9.5 because that is just a simplified version of 10/10. I feel like I'm teaching Pre-Algebra students...

On the newer GS system? yes. On score systems with more decimals then .5? No (IMO)

It should mean perfect.

It doesn't matter if 10/10 means prime, no matter how much you spin it, 10/10 translates to flawless. It isn't fair.TMontana1004

It depends on the rating system. I don't know if GS has one - but most mags that I read explain their rating system. The explanation for 10 is NOT - this game is perfect.

Does anyone know if GS has a explaination for its rating system? I had a look around but couldn't see it.

You know the thing - they usually appear at the front of the review section of games mags.

Does anyone know if GS has a explaination for its rating system? I had a look around but couldn't see it.

You know the thing - they usually appear at the front of the review section of games mags.

angryfodder

Can't find it easily...but there is one..

If a game can't get a 10 out of 10, then what's the point of having a 10 in the score system. Why not have 9 out of 9? Oh, wait... It's the same thing -- now 9 is the new perfect. Well, we should remove scores alltogether. Or not.

10 out of 10 doesn't necessarily have to mean that the game is perfect, it's just a way of telling how frigging good a game is. Getting a 10 at Gamespot is probably not as hard to get as it was back in the day. I think the crew noticed that the score was totally unnenessacry to have if there isn't a game that can get that score. I think we'll be seeing more games that'll receive 10 out 10 in the future.

Personally, the excessive load screens and installs would have docked the game down to a 9.5 for me. Still, an amazing accomplishment by Kojima. Breath taking.

10 doesn't mean there are no flaws. It just means the overall game is above everything else that has released. That's why I think GTAIV got a 10....not because it's perfect but because all the elements of the game couldn't be matched by previous games.

Quit whining, it was a 10. I didn't think it would get a 10 here on GS......I wonder if this is an overeaction to their usually harsh reviews of PS3 exclusives. Now it seems Lems are a little miffed at their NG2 getting the shaft while the Cows get the perfect score (something none of their exclusives have been able to do).

What's the point of having a 10 on the scale if it's unattainable?

10 only means 'perfect' or 'flawless' if you want it to mean that. Reviews aren't tests, they're subjective evaluations. On an end-of-year student review of a teacher (one of those standardized test-style forms), do you never give them a 5 for anything, because 5 would mean that they were perfect, and perhaps they did something wrong once? You don't review a game by starting from 100 and subtracting points for every flaw.

10 is prime and get that in ur heads already a game cant be perfect because all aspects cant be covered.

for example a shooter cant be a strategy game and a deep rpg and so it will never cover everybody's preference's

OH MY GOD, people on these forums are Sofa King We Todd Did.

Just because 10/10 is unobtainable, doesn't mean that 9.5 becomes the perfect score.... seriously, are you all in junior high or something..... no wait, junior high students would be able to get this.... seriously, get out of SW and pick up a math book.

Seriously you bunch that were using this "logic" should be really embarrassed. Congratulations in advance for your rapid advancement to manager at McDonalds.

OH MY GOD, people on these forums are Sofa King We Todd Did.

Just because 10/10 is unobtainable, doesn't mean that 9.5 becomes the perfect score.... seriously, are you all in junior high or something..... no wait, junior high students would be able to get this.... seriously, get out of SW and pick up a math book.

Seriously you bunch that were using this "logic" should be really embarrassed. Congratulations in advance for your rapid advancement to manager at McDonalds.

Veterngamer

Why have a 10 on the scale if it's unattainable? What purpose does it serve?

I don't agree with the argument that 9.5 means 'perfect' if 10 is unattainable, but if you can't ever give a game a 10, then 9.5 is the highest score a game can achieve, making it the top of the scale.

If a site is going to have scores in .5 increments then more games should get 10s. A site like IGN, where a 9.8 is an option, is where the last two major hits should fall.

I beat GTA IV, and I'm playing through MGS4. I would put both of those games in my top ten of all time. Maybe in the top 5. But both games are not without flaws. GTA IV had very repetitve mission structure, and MGS4 has some control and enemy respawn issues as some examples. I've sat in one spot and killed 20 respawning enemy combatants, it made replenishing my rations very easy.There's respawn pockets sprinkled throughout most areas, kind of hurting the fluid feel to the game.

It's not that both games aren't masterpieces, but if FFVII, and RE4 weren't given the perfect 10s how could these two games with very minor flaws score higher then those two, near flawless games.

Since the scoring system changed any game now can get a 10.

10 is the new 9.8 on Gamespot.

Yes. I hate hearing people say no game is ever prefect.

There are games that, for the timeof their release, have stellar gameplay graphics and sound. They are replayable and cannot reasonably be improved upon. Those games deserve a 10. Knocking them down in score because you refuse to acknowlede perfection is just plain stupid