Can any game actually be a 10/10? *Poll*

with the old and new rateing systems yes

for old system because if a game is top notch and blows you away brings someithng fresh and new and is remembered for a long time for its greatness then yes. it is perfect for its time and nothing could really be done(except for hardware limitations of course) to make the game any better

for the new its basically the same thing except, if a game is 9.6/10 it get 10/10(so stupid not having .6-.9)

Yes a game can get a 10/10 a 100/100 or even a 1000000/1000000.

The point is a scale system should have every single digit in use or else its useless. Even if your scale means a 10/10 means perfection in the literal sense there is still that chance that one game could come out and be universally accepted as perfection so to lock off the top tier of a system because you believe nothing is perfect is ruining the point of the system in the first place.

Put simply if you have a scale you should be able to use all of it.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

angryfodder

It is impossible to make a perfect game, there will always be something there that some people will have a problem with. It is impossible to be all things to all people. But there games that are clearly better than anything available on the market right now and the score is deserved.

Yes. I hate hearing people say no game is ever prefect.

There are games that, for the timeof their release, have stellar gameplay graphics and sound. They are replayable and cannot reasonably be improved upon. Those games deserve a 10. Knocking them down in score because you refuse to acknowlede perfection is just plain stupid

BuryMe

That said, I am fine with a game scoring a 10. It doesn't mean the game is perfect, it just means it is among the very best of all time. I'm totally cool with that.

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

angryfodder

mgs4 got a 10, so did gta, along with that zzzelda game. I guess it is possible, sounds preposterous I know but hey facts are facts. Also I waswondering what if lets say killzone 2 is better then mgs4 by a long shot, wth score does that get then?

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Yes. I hate hearing people say no game is ever prefect.

There are games that, for the timeof their release, have stellar gameplay graphics and sound. They are replayable and cannot reasonably be improved upon. Those games deserve a 10. Knocking them down in score because you refuse to acknowlede perfection is just plain stupid

heretrix

That said, I am fine with a game scoring a 10. It doesn't mean the game is perfect, it just means it is among the very best of all time. I'm totally cool with that.

Not to get all overly optimistic but perfection is achievable, just because we haven't seen it does not mean we will not see it, ever. By stating it is not I think its a bit of a drab way to see things.

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

angryfodder

This is the problem I have with reviews. I dont need nobody telling me where to spend my money, its just away for the industry to dictate and brain wash you to by such and such game(s). I do not have a problem with trying out new games, real gamers try new stuff, fanboys are the ones thats holding gaming back.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

CubanBlunt

This is the problem I have with reviews. I dont need nobody telling me where to spend my money, its just away for the industry to dictate and brain wash you to by such and such game(s). I do not have a problem with trying out new games, real gamers try new stuff, fanboys are the ones thats holding gaming back.

Nobody is forcing you to read the reviews. Besides there are plenty of reviewers out there doing it from a more critical point of view and rating the game on its achievments and stumblings rather than saying if you shoudl buy it or not. In fact I'd go so far as to say modern day reviews cater less on the actual "is it worth my money," issue then earlier examples, like in older Nintendo Power for instance.

To a certain degree it is brainwashing if you are easily influenced but the vast majority of games reviews are genuinly helping the consumer pick the superior product.

For a lot of people trying new things is not financially viable, its too risky to just dump $60 on a game based on zero information, something I doubt you do. To have something out there helping people decide how to spend their money is no bad thing.

[QUOTE="CubanBlunt"][QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

Eothein

This is the problem I have with reviews. I dont need nobody telling me where to spend my money, its just away for the industry to dictate and brain wash you to by such and such game(s). I do not have a problem with trying out new games, real gamers try new stuff, fanboys are the ones thats holding gaming back.

Nobody is forcing you to read the reviews. Besides there are plenty of reviewers out there doing it from a more critical point of view and rating the game on its achievments and stumblings rather than saying if you shoudl buy it or not. In fact I'd go so far as to say modern day reviews cater less on the actual "is it worth my money," issue then earlier examples, like in older Nintendo Power for instance.

To a certain degree it is brainwashing if you are easily influenced but the vast majority of games reviews are genuinly helping the consumer pick the superior product.

For a lot of people trying new things is not financially viable, its too risky to just dump $60 on a game based on zero information, something I doubt you do. To have something out there helping people decide how to spend their money is no bad thing.

First off, you dont know me so DONT set up here trying to tell me what I do. A review is someone else opinion, if you cant form your own opinion, but will take someone elses opinion, then I got a good sale on rock for you. All I'm sayin is I have a mind of my own, I dont need anyone making my decisions for me.

To answer your question, I dont read reviews, I'll look at the images of the game, if it looks good to me, i'll buy it, if I dont like it, I just wont play it anymore, or I'll trade it.

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

angryfodder

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

OH MY GOD, people on these forums are Sofa King We Todd Did.

Just because 10/10 is unobtainable, doesn't mean that 9.5 becomes the perfect score.... seriously, are you all in junior high or something..... no wait, junior high students would be able to get this.... seriously, get out of SW and pick up a math book.

Seriously you bunch that were using this "logic" should be really embarrassed. Congratulations in advance for your rapid advancement to manager at McDonalds.

sonicmj1

Why have a 10 on the scale if it's unattainable? What purpose does it serve?

I don't agree with the argument that 9.5 means 'perfect' if 10 is unattainable, but if you can't ever give a game a 10, then 9.5 is the highest score a game can achieve, making it the top of the scale.

Good thinking.... so never try, because you can never do anything perfectly?? Perfection is something that is always out of reach, but that doesn't stop us from trying to obtain it.... it's one of the few good qualities that humans have.

Do athletes stop trying to perfect their skill, because they realize that they can never obtain perfection??? Nope!

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

OH MY GOD, people on these forums are Sofa King We Todd Did.

Just because 10/10 is unobtainable, doesn't mean that 9.5 becomes the perfect score.... seriously, are you all in junior high or something..... no wait, junior high students would be able to get this.... seriously, get out of SW and pick up a math book.

Seriously you bunch that were using this "logic" should be really embarrassed. Congratulations in advance for your rapid advancement to manager at McDonalds.

Veterngamer

Why have a 10 on the scale if it's unattainable? What purpose does it serve?

I don't agree with the argument that 9.5 means 'perfect' if 10 is unattainable, but if you can't ever give a game a 10, then 9.5 is the highest score a game can achieve, making it the top of the scale.

Good thinking.... so never try, because you can never do anything perfectly?? Perfection is something that is always out of reach, but that doesn't stop us from trying to obtain it.... it's one of the few good qualities that humans have.

Do athletes stop trying to perfect their skill, because they realize that they can never obtain perfection??? Nope!

How is what you said relevant?

What purpose does a score that cannot ever be achieved serve? Even in gymnastics or figure skating, where athletic performances are given a numerical score, the highest score on the scale is sometimes awarded. It's a top standard, and it can be met.

We're not talking about being the developers who make games. We're talking about a practical review system. You explicitly said that 10 was unattainable. Why put an unattainable number on the scale, then?

Having the highest value on the review scale be a value that can actually be attained does nothing to stop the pursuit of perfection, just as having an unattainable highest value does nothing to encourage it.

Yes. Anyone who thinks a game can't or shouldn't score a 10 is ignorant. Funny how this doesn't come up in other areas. When a movie scores 5/5 stars, you never hear anyone complaining that it is stupid because the movie isn't "perfect" so shouldn't get a perfect score. When a CD or TV show or book gets a perfect score, nobody rushes to the internet to spew out pseudo-intellectual BS about how perfection is impossible and therefore the highest score on the scale should never ever be used.

Seriously, the fact that this CONTINUES to come up makes me weep for humanity.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

OH MY GOD, people on these forums are Sofa King We Todd Did.

Just because 10/10 is unobtainable, doesn't mean that 9.5 becomes the perfect score.... seriously, are you all in junior high or something..... no wait, junior high students would be able to get this.... seriously, get out of SW and pick up a math book.

Seriously you bunch that were using this "logic" should be really embarrassed. Congratulations in advance for your rapid advancement to manager at McDonalds.

Veterngamer

Why have a 10 on the scale if it's unattainable? What purpose does it serve?

I don't agree with the argument that 9.5 means 'perfect' if 10 is unattainable, but if you can't ever give a game a 10, then 9.5 is the highest score a game can achieve, making it the top of the scale.

Good thinking.... so never try, because you can never do anything perfectly?? Perfection is something that is always out of reach, but that doesn't stop us from trying to obtain it.... it's one of the few good qualities that humans have.

Do athletes stop trying to perfect their skill, because they realize that they can never obtain perfection??? Nope!

The problem is you are starting off completely on the wrong foot in the first place. The point of scoring and ranking has nothing to do with perfection. There is a set standard people have in mind, and if that standard is met, then you get the top score/ranking. It has nothing to do with ridiculous notions of perfection. The fact that people continue to think that rating games means "perfection" says more about the cluelessness of the people than the merit of the scoring system.

Yes. Anyone who thinks a game can't or shouldn't score a 10 is ignorant. Funny how this doesn't come up in other areas. When a movie scores 5/5 stars, you never hear anyone complaining that it is stupid because the movie isn't "perfect" so shouldn't get a perfect score. When a CD or TV show or book gets a perfect score, nobody rushes to the internet to spew out pseudo-intellectual BS about how perfection is impossible and therefore the highest score on the scale should never ever be used.

Seriously, the fact that this CONTINUES to come up makes me weep for humanity.

ZIMdoom

yes, since 10 doesn't mean perfect anymore

but even when it did .. we had the categories .. gameplay, graphics, sound, lastibility and tilt

and all those could feasibly be a 10

[QUOTE="Tykain"]10 doesn't mean the game is perfect, i don't know why that's so hard to understand for some people. And of course 10 should be reachable for games, if it's not in the end it's just the same thing as 9.5 would be the highest possible score so the score would efectively be 9.5/9.5.Veterngamer

Lets go back to grade 1 math people.... If you have 10 pieces of pizza and you and a friend both eat 5 pieces of pizza each, then you have eaten 100% of the pizza.

Also if you score a 100% on your grade 1 math tests, which I'm beginning to believe didn't happen for some of you, then that means the score is perfect.... not "prime"

10/10 for a math test means it was perfect because it's something where you can define perfection, everything is either right or wrong and if everything is right then it's perfect. But if you get a 10/10 for an essay you had to write for example, it doesn't mean it was perfect, there is always something you could add or change and in this case the score will be a subjective opinion, just like for games.

Maybe i didn't get a 100% on the math test, but you clearly missed the class where they teach you common sense.

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

blitzcloud

I'm confused - what has my profile got to do with anything???

[QUOTE="angryfodder"]

Some recent GS scores started a little discussion with a mate about games and if any game can be a 10. His point was that no game can ever be perfect, so no game can ever really be a 10. Realistically 9 or 9.5 out of 10 is the best any game can really be.

My point is that reviews were created to help us decide what games to spend our money on. If a game is soo good that it is 100% worth the price tag, then its a 10/10, 100% game etc.....so games can infact be a 10.

I think that people are over analysing the review system

What do you guys think? Please vote and give a reason if you want to.

CubanBlunt

This is the problem I have with reviews. I dont need nobody telling me where to spend my money, its just away for the industry to dictate and brain wash you to by such and such game(s). I do not have a problem with trying out new games, real gamers try new stuff, fanboys are the ones thats holding gaming back.

I totally disagree. A good review will point out the good/bad points of a game and tell you what the game is about. You can then use these to aid you in your decision in what to buy.

More important than the score, is the review itself. All reviews are opinions - but its how these opinions are backed up with examples that is important.

They are not telling you were to spend your money - they are just there to help you.

Once again, ten doesn't mean perfect so yes.

Yes, 10/10 =100% but you have to bare with us here.