Can Halo Reach dethrone the COD series?

With all multiplayer modes and improvements and hype halo reach can easily be most played game on Xbox Live. But do you think that reach can dethrone the call of duty series and become the most played and popular again?

Considering Halo 3 was the the most played xbox live game, the year COD4 game out and the year after.....i think its safe to say Reach will easily have more players then MW2. Just on the 360 obviously.

I would think so

it's too early to tell, really. It depends on the quality of Black Ops, since that's basically Reach's only competent competition this holiday season and into 2011.

given the beta response though, Reach is going to be a hit regardless.

Halo Reach will be lucky to dethrone halo3.

Activisions "$15 a month to play Call of Duty" alone will dethrone them without the help of any big name multiplayer games.

Considering Halo 3 was the the most played xbox live game, the year COD4 game out and the year after.....i think its safe to say Reach will easily have more players then MW2. Just on the 360 obviously.

Fizzman

you mean on Xbox 360 only?

Halo 3 was the most played Xbox 360 game of 2009. over COD4.

I'd expect the same scenario with Halo Reach, this game even gets an extra year after a Modern Warfare title.

2007- COD4/H3

2009-MW2

2010-Reach/Black Ops.

you should get what I'm saying.

With all multiplayer modes and improvements and hype halo reach can easily be most played game on Xbox Live. But do you think that reach can dethrone the call of duty series and become the most played and popular again?

Raiden004

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Considering Halo 3 was the the most played xbox live game, the year COD4 game out and the year after.....i think its safe to say Reach will easily have more players then MW2. Just on the 360 obviously.

nhh18

It can outsell it on the 360, but not both ps3 and 360. I wasnt referring to sales though, since its not like every MW2 who bought the game still plays it.

in a perfect world it would

i think halo is better but itll nvr be bigger or more known because not everybody can play halo but anybody can play COD halo 3 sold 10 million copies in 3 years thats alot but COD has sold more then that in less then a year even mario outsold it . Thats probably why bungie went multiplat so they could be even more populatr and everybody can play there gamecoltgames

Halo 3 came out in 06 with what 20 million consoles sold and MW2 came out with nearly 40 million sold. The numbers game isnt really comparable. Reach will be the true test to see how the Halo brand holds up against the COD brand in terms of sales.

I don't remember Halo ever leaving the throne..... Bungie takes serious time to develop and balance their games to make sure they last many years and don't get stale. The series doesn't over expose itself like COD, who releases a game every year like it's madden. Why don't they just start adding the year after COD? Like COD '11 should be the name for Black Ops.

It will easily be #1 on xbox live, but it won't outsell or be more popular than MW2 since that's a multiplat game.

[QUOTE="coltgames"]i think halo is better but itll nvr be bigger or more known because not everybody can play halo but anybody can play COD halo 3 sold 10 million copies in 3 years thats alot but COD has sold more then that in less then a year even mario outsold it . Thats probably why bungie went multiplat so they could be even more populatr and everybody can play there gameFizzman

Halo 3 came out in 06 with what 20 million consoles sold and MW2 came out with nearly 40 million sold. The numbers game isnt really comparable. Reach will be the true test to see how the Halo brand holds up against the COD brand in terms of sales.

I don't remember Halo ever leaving the throne..... Bungie takes serious time to develop and balance their games to make sure they last many years and don't get stale. The series doesn't over expose itself like COD, who releases a game every year like it's madden. Why don't they just start adding the year after COD? Like COD '11 should be the name for Black Ops.

Meat_Wad_Fan

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="coltgames"]i think halo is better but itll nvr be bigger or more known because not everybody can play halo but anybody can play COD halo 3 sold 10 million copies in 3 years thats alot but COD has sold more then that in less then a year even mario outsold it . Thats probably why bungie went multiplat so they could be even more populatr and everybody can play there gamecoltgames

Halo 3 came out in 06 with what 20 million consoles sold and MW2 came out with nearly 40 million sold. The numbers game isnt really comparable. Reach will be the true test to see how the Halo brand holds up against the COD brand in terms of sales.

Im not talking about multiple platform sales. Its obvious Reach will never beat MW2 when its available to 70 million + gamers, whereas Reach is only available to 40+ million gamers.

[QUOTE="coltgames"]i think halo is better but itll nvr be bigger or more known because not everybody can play halo but anybody can play COD halo 3 sold 10 million copies in 3 years thats alot but COD has sold more then that in less then a year even mario outsold it . Thats probably why bungie went multiplat so they could be even more populatr and everybody can play there gameFizzman

Halo 3 came out in 06 with what 20 million consoles sold and MW2 came out with nearly 40 million sold. The numbers game isnt really comparable. Reach will be the true test to see how the Halo brand holds up against the COD brand in terms of sales.

But for halo bieng only on one platform, it's sales are pretty impressive, and Reachwill no doubt be #1 on xbox live when it's released.

it's too early to tell, really. It depends on the quality of Black Ops, since that's basically Reach's only competent competition this holiday season and into 2011.

given the beta response though, Reach is going to be a hit regardless.

Dead-Memories

Dont forget Killzone 3.

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it's too early to tell, really. It depends on the quality of Black Ops, since that's basically Reach's only competent competition this holiday season and into 2011.

given the beta response though, Reach is going to be a hit regardless.

AznKSor

Dont forget Killzone 3.

[QUOTE="coltgames"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Halo 3 came out in 06 with what 20 million consoles sold and MW2 came out with nearly 40 million sold. The numbers game isnt really comparable. Reach will be the true test to see how the Halo brand holds up against the COD brand in terms of sales.

Fizzman

Im not talking about multiple platform sales. Its obvious Reach will never beat MW2 when its available to 70 million + gamers, whereas Reach is only available to 40+ million gamers.

Halo 3 was #1 in 2007, 2008 and most of 2009. MW2 is only there because it's new and a lot of Halo players have gotten pretty tired of it and moved onto other stuff.

Halo Reach will no doubt take #1 without a question.

Halo doesn't need to dethrone naything.

The Halo series is big enough in its own right.

Halo and CoD have swapped leading games online on the Xbox from time to time when ever new iterations of the game is newer.

Halo Reach will be lucky to dethrone halo3.

nhh18

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Considering Halo 3 was the the most played xbox live game, the year COD4 game out and the year after.....i think its safe to say Reach will easily have more players then MW2. Just on the 360 obviously.

nhh18

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="coltgames"] it will sell ALOT but it wont come close to mw2 everyone doesnt have a 360 but anyone could go buy COD its a factedwise18

Im not talking about multiple platform sales. Its obvious Reach will never beat MW2 when its available to 70 million + gamers, whereas Reach is only available to 40+ million gamers.

yeah im talking about console sales, but sure PC gamers too makes it even more impossible.

on pc tf2 has more players than mw2 and css usually does too, im sure reach can out do it on xbox. ferret-gamer

Halo Reach will be lucky to dethrone halo3.

nhh18

I know you are anti-Xbox.

but why do you think Halo Reach will be lucky to dethrone Halo3?

depends on how great the marketing is....

[QUOTE="edwise18"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Im not talking about multiple platform sales. Its obvious Reach will never beat MW2 when its available to 70 million + gamers, whereas Reach is only available to 40+ million gamers.

Fizzman

yeah im talking about console sales, but sure PC gamers too makes it even more impossible.

Black Ops is also coming to the Wii:P

pile on the numbers.

They are two totally different games, each will have their hardcore fan base. Its hard to say if it will dethrone CoD, but there will definitely be some good competition between the two.

On the Xbox 360? I'm sure it can.

I'm going to say until November... then it's black ops, MW2, or Reach. I really don't feel like reach is going to have the standing power that MW2 has w/ it's high level of mp unlocks for customization, perks, classes, and prestige.

If Black Ops is really really good, than it'll take over MW2 fanbase, and surpass reach. Even if it's mediocre it's going to pull a lot of gamers away from MW2 which might give Reach the edge as far as numbers go.

If it were Modern Warfare 3 then I'd understand. Modern warfare games tend to do better than games set in the past in this series so far.

It might outdo it on the Xbox 360, but that is about it.millerlight89

you make it sound like it's a small acomplishment.

if KZ3 outdoes CoD on the PS3 it would be considered a miracle.

I'm going to say until November... then it's black ops, MW2, or Reach. I really don't feel like reach is going to have the standing power that MW2 has w/ it's high level of mp unlocks for customization, perks, classes, and prestige.

If Black Ops is really really good, than it'll take over MW2 fanbase, and surpass reach. Even if it's mediocre it's going to pull a lot of gamers away from MW2 which might give Reach the edge as far as numbers go.

jrhawk42

Halo 3 has been going strong now for 3 years and has been getting lots of support from Bungie and the community long after it's release.

Why can't it be the same for Halo Reach?

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

I'm going to say until November... then it's black ops, MW2, or Reach. I really don't feel like reach is going to have the standing power that MW2 has w/ it's high level of mp unlocks for customization, perks, classes, and prestige.

If Black Ops is really really good, than it'll take over MW2 fanbase, and surpass reach. Even if it's mediocre it's going to pull a lot of gamers away from MW2 which might give Reach the edge as far as numbers go.

AdmiralBison

Halo 3 has been going strong now for 3 years and has been getting lots of support from Bungie and the community long after it's release.

Why can't it be the same for Halo Reach?

Basically because reach is not being released in the same MP environment as Halo 3 was. Yes Halo 3 is one of the top played games on XBL, but it's not THE top played game on XBL any more. Multiplayer numbers tend to roam, and Halo 3's run was pretty impressive, but I don't think Reach will have that same success in today's multiplayer environment. Modern warfare's level system has given players a reason to play more just like Halo 2 did w/ XBL. Reach doesn't really seem to offer much that's ground breaking in terms of keeping players active. It has a level system, but from what I understand it's completely cosmetic, and that won't be enough to encourage people to play more.

I still think Reach is going to be the top played game on XBL for a good run, but it really depends on how good Black ops is, and even then it's not likely to have much lasting power Halo 3 did.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

I'm going to say until November... then it's black ops, MW2, or Reach. I really don't feel like reach is going to have the standing power that MW2 has w/ it's high level of mp unlocks for customization, perks, classes, and prestige.

If Black Ops is really really good, than it'll take over MW2 fanbase, and surpass reach. Even if it's mediocre it's going to pull a lot of gamers away from MW2 which might give Reach the edge as far as numbers go.

jrhawk42

Halo 3 has been going strong now for 3 years and has been getting lots of support from Bungie and the community long after it's release.

Why can't it be the same for Halo Reach?

Basically because reach is not being released in the same MP environment as Halo 3 was. Yes Halo 3 is one of the top played games on XBL, but it's not THE top played game on XBL any more. Multiplayer numbers tend to roam, and Halo 3's run was pretty impressive, but I don't think Reach will have that same success in today's multiplayer environment. Modern warfare's level system has given players a reason to play more just like Halo 2 did w/ XBL. Reach doesn't really seem to offer much that's ground breaking in terms of keeping players active. It has a level system, but from what I understand it's completely cosmetic, and that won't be enough to encourage people to play more.

I still think Reach is going to be the top played game on XBL for a good run, but it really depends on how good Black ops is, and even then it's not likely to have much lasting power Halo 3 did.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

I'm going to say until November... then it's black ops, MW2, or Reach. I really don't feel like reach is going to have the standing power that MW2 has w/ it's high level of mp unlocks for customization, perks, classes, and prestige.

If Black Ops is really really good, than it'll take over MW2 fanbase, and surpass reach. Even if it's mediocre it's going to pull a lot of gamers away from MW2 which might give Reach the edge as far as numbers go.

jrhawk42

Halo 3 has been going strong now for 3 years and has been getting lots of support from Bungie and the community long after it's release.

Why can't it be the same for Halo Reach?

Basically because reach is not being released in the same MP environment as Halo 3 was. Yes Halo 3 is one of the top played games on XBL, but it's not THE top played game on XBL any more. Multiplayer numbers tend to roam, and Halo 3's run was pretty impressive, but I don't think Reach will have that same success in today's multiplayer environment. Modern warfare's level system has given players a reason to play more just like Halo 2 did w/ XBL. Reach doesn't really seem to offer much that's ground breaking in terms of keeping players active. It has a level system, but from what I understand it's completely cosmetic, and that won't be enough to encourage people to play more.

I still think Reach is going to be the top played game on XBL for a good run, but it really depends on how good Black ops is, and even then it's not likely to have much lasting power Halo 3 did.

I don't get you there.

Of course Halo 3 isn't the top player anymore considering the popularity of MW2 and that it's a newer game, but Halo 3 is still definately up there in terms of numbers and has remained very consistantly high even in the space of other FPS, TPS games that have come out later.

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It shouldn't be to difficult for current Halo 3 users to migrate to Halo Reach- given the familiarity and all, and with the significant Beta attendance- so you already have there a substantial number of users ready to play Halo Reach.

What about extra maps support for Halo Reach? It is possible for Bungie to keep supporting it like they do Halo 3 to give it legs.

It seems Halo doesn't need that much of an improvement over Halo 3 to get bigger numbers!You already have great existing playmechanics that are very popular- it is quite obvious at this point I think.

The level of anticipation for Halo Rach is still higher then Black Ops on the Xbox360if we are going to pitt these game against each other

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