Can Killzone 3 be the Halo Reach killer?

IMO, Tf2 and CSS already killed Halo 1,2 and 3+ODST and Reach.

Jebus213

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Vader993"]

to be fair odst was a spin off game

Vader993

i don't care about sales that much

The makers of the games do. Companies make games in order to SELL.Sales is what it all comes down to in the real world.

Reviews:yes

Sales::lol:

maybe in fun factor, i mean you can get inside a mech and use it in multiplayer, but in sales? no. because everyone who buys a 360 buys halo, but everyone who buys a ps3 can buy god of war, uncharted, killzone, COD... even madden and fifa

What I find funny is how everyone seems to forget how hyped Killzone 2 was last year here on gamespot..... Not too soon after release the hype was dead. Despite the score, it didn't live up to the hype to most people except the few fans on here that claim they still play it daily.

What I find funny is how everyone seems to forget how hyped Killzone 2 was last year here on gamespot..... Not too soon after release the hype was dead. Despite the score, it didn't live up to the hype to most people except the few fans on here that claim they still play it daily.

xsalvioutlawx

It did live up to the hype....

TC, instead of making this thread you could use search and fine like a dozen of similar ones. How the hell an exclusive on one platform is supposed to kill exclusive on another? Can you imagine Halo fanbase dumping Reach and going for KZ3 instead? Stupid thread is stupid.

TC, instead of making this thread you could use search and fine like a dozen of similar ones. How the hell an exclusive on one platform is supposed to kill exclusive on another? Can you imagine Halo fanbase dumping Reach and going for KZ3 instead? Stupid thread is stupid.

Orchid87

you mean an actual fight between halo fans and killzone fans,im in:D

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

TC, instead of making this thread you could use search and fine like a dozen of similar ones. How the hell an exclusive on one platform is supposed to kill exclusive on another? Can you imagine Halo fanbase dumping Reach and going for KZ3 instead? Stupid thread is stupid.

Vader993

you mean an actual fight between halo fans and killzone fans,im in:D

We're gonna be outnumbered :P

[QUOTE="Vader993"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

TC, instead of making this thread you could use search and fine like a dozen of similar ones. How the hell an exclusive on one platform is supposed to kill exclusive on another? Can you imagine Halo fanbase dumping Reach and going for KZ3 instead? Stupid thread is stupid.

Orchid87

you mean an actual fight between halo fans and killzone fans,im in:D

We're gonna be outnumbered :P

so were the spartans:P

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="Vader993"]

you mean an actual fight between halo fans and killzone fans,im in:D

Vader993

We're gonna be outnumbered :P

so were the spartans:P

"...We will fight for our very existence!"

[QUOTE="Vader993"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

We're gonna be outnumbered :P

Orchid87

so were the spartans:P

"...We will fight for our very existence!"

that we do

man im so plumped up

Why can't you just hope that it turns out to be a great game? Is that not enough for you?It's ridiculous how every single PS exclusive shooter has to kill Halo.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

IMO, Tf2 and CSS already killed Halo 1,2 and 3+ODST and Reach.

AdmiralBison

Tf2 and CSS kill both games in terms of quality and gameplay.

LOL this is the only place I know were people give hype to some of the most overrated games.

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

We're gonna be outnumbered :P

Vader993

so were the spartans:P

And we all know what happened to them.

The only thing that can kill Halo is Halo.

Just a tip: Dont hype it like that if you are not looking for a flop ;)

Even if it were better, giving the game a perfect 10, it still wouldn't kill Halo. There are fanbases. They won't drop Halo and start praising Killzone because it scored a half a point higher.

kz2

fire from hip more accurate than iron sites

32 player games meant lag ( i mean dying 1 second after killing enemy or after going behind cover)

spawn trapping ruins every game

grenade spam w/ spawn trapping = miserable game

bad controls (they made layout weird)

being able to keep out certain ranked people from games meant not friendly to newer players

unlocks take forever and gives unfair advantage to older players and newer players must work really hard to get something

haven't played beta since its psn+ only I have no idea if they fixed any of this so i dont know about it killing reach at all

kz2

fire from hip more accurate than iron sites

32 player games meant lag ( i mean dying 1 second after killing enemy or after going behind cover)

spawn trapping ruins every game

grenade spam w/ spawn trapping = miserable game

bad controls (they made layout weird)

being able to keep out certain ranked people from games meant not friendly to newer players

unlocks take forever and gives unfair advantage to older players and newer players must work really hard to get something

haven't played beta since its psn+ only I have no idea if they fixed any of this so i dont know about it killing reach at all

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

kz2

fire from hip more accurate than iron sites

32 player games meant lag ( i mean dying 1 second after killing enemy or after going behind cover)

spawn trapping ruins every game

grenade spam w/ spawn trapping = miserable game

bad controls (they made layout weird)

being able to keep out certain ranked people from games meant not friendly to newer players

unlocks take forever and gives unfair advantage to older players and newer players must work really hard to get something

haven't played beta since its psn+ only I have no idea if they fixed any of this so i dont know about it killing reach at all

hoosier7

i hate having to use middle finger to hold crouch and use pointer to hold iron sites.... toggle just felt weird to me. maybe its my area? IDK i live in Hawaii so im being paired up w/ ppl around the world b/c of time zone and always experience lag.

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="tutt3r"]

kz2

fire from hip more accurate than iron sites

32 player games meant lag ( i mean dying 1 second after killing enemy or after going behind cover)

spawn trapping ruins every game

grenade spam w/ spawn trapping = miserable game

bad controls (they made layout weird)

being able to keep out certain ranked people from games meant not friendly to newer players

unlocks take forever and gives unfair advantage to older players and newer players must work really hard to get something

haven't played beta since its psn+ only I have no idea if they fixed any of this so i dont know about it killing reach at all

i hate having to use middle finger to hold crouch and use pointer to hold iron sites.... toggle just felt weird to me. maybe its my area? IDK i live in Hawaii so im being paired up w/ ppl around the world b/c of time zone and always experience lag.

[QUOTE="tutt3r"]

[QUOTE="hoosier7"] Though i agree with most of that, you could just change the control layout? You can get a COD esque layout. I never experienced any lag what so ever and the number of players is never relative to the ammount of lag, look at Resistance, MAG many PC games.hoosier7

i hate having to use middle finger to hold crouch and use pointer to hold iron sites.... toggle just felt weird to me. maybe its my area? IDK i live in Hawaii so im being paired up w/ ppl around the world b/c of time zone and always experience lag.

ugh I hope so. I hate hearing people say in game how its like morning for them and for me its only 12 midnight. Im playing with east coast people thousands and thousands of miles away from me.

LOL You all just got trolled. Even the TC left this thread pretty much after it was started. Of course Killzone will never be a Halo killer. Killzone 2 was one of the most hyped games ever for the PS3 and it did not even get close to the sales as Halo 3 or Reach sales. I will have to admit I liked KZ2 online better but that is only cause I am not a very good FPS online player so I did great on KZ2. If a person wants to play against really tough players and challenge themselves they play Halo but if you want easy kills you play a PS3 game. I mean lets face it X-Box has better players and that is why 360 games are the feature games for the major tournaments. I play KZ2 or Uncharted 2 and I do rather well but dang if I play Gears or Halo for example I am dead meat.SilentlyMad

halo 1 and 2 killed KZ. halo 3 killed KZ2. Heck, ODST was on par with KZ2. i notice a pattern here...

until KZ3 has a balanced MP, a decent story, a decent campaign, and more features and replayabiliy, HR>>>>>>>>>KZ3

[QUOTE="Vader993"]

[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

We're gonna be outnumbered :P

waltefmoney

so were the spartans:P

And we all know what happened to them.

they die like real men

From what I've seen so for, it barely scratches the surface when it comes to bringing new innovations over Killzone 2. Jetpack? Eh... Sounds more like firing back to Halo Reach's jetpack. I'm not buying it. They flushed out the gunplay a little more this time around and it actually plays more like a modern day FPS game now, instead of the sluggish and awkward gunplay from Killzone 2. To me, the transition from KZ2 to KZ3, is like the transition from Halo 2 to Halo 3. Not many improvements, but will it be good? Sure, why not.Elann2008

The PSP version of Killzone there are jetpacks dude,but another sony shooter use jet pack for some years now,WarHawk is not a Halo Reach things is not new either,other games had done it before Halo Reach.

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]From what I've seen so for, it barely scratches the surface when it comes to bringing new innovations over Killzone 2. Jetpack? Eh... Sounds more like firing back to Halo Reach's jetpack. I'm not buying it. They flushed out the gunplay a little more this time around and it actually plays more like a modern day FPS game now, instead of the sluggish and awkward gunplay from Killzone 2. To me, the transition from KZ2 to KZ3, is like the transition from Halo 2 to Halo 3. Not many improvements, but will it be good? Sure, why not.Samvigote

The PSP version of Killzone there are jetpacks dude,but another sony shooter use jet pack for some years now,WarHawk is not a Halo Reach things is not new either,other games had done it before Halo Reach.

I think Tribes was the first game I seen with jetpack's.Yup I remember KZ for psp there was jetpacks.

[QUOTE="Samvigote"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]From what I've seen so for, it barely scratches the surface when it comes to bringing new innovations over Killzone 2. Jetpack? Eh... Sounds more like firing back to Halo Reach's jetpack. I'm not buying it. They flushed out the gunplay a little more this time around and it actually plays more like a modern day FPS game now, instead of the sluggish and awkward gunplay from Killzone 2. To me, the transition from KZ2 to KZ3, is like the transition from Halo 2 to Halo 3. Not many improvements, but will it be good? Sure, why not.Promised_Trini

The PSP version of Killzone there are jetpacks dude,but another sony shooter use jet pack for some years now,WarHawk is not a Halo Reach things is not new either,other games had done it before Halo Reach.

I think Tribes was the first game I seen with jetpack's.Yup I remember KZ for psp there was jetpacks.

it wasnt a fps

halo 3 killed KZ2.

gamedude234

Talking about sales? If not, a downright lie.

Anyway judging from the impressions from the KZ3 beta, KZ3 MP won't even top KZ2, let alone be a contender for "killing" another FPS franchise.

If we are talking about the SP component, it's all up in the air right now.

Also, it's seems like the term a franchise making another franchise obsolete is pretty popular around these parts, yet I have seen no example of such a thing happening in the gaming industry, ever.

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="Samvigote"]

The PSP version of Killzone there are jetpacks dude,but another sony shooter use jet pack for some years now,WarHawk is not a Halo Reach things is not new either,other games had done it before Halo Reach.

HailedJohnDman

I think Tribes was the first game I seen with jetpack's.Yup I remember KZ for psp there was jetpacks.

it wasnt a fps

So what if it wasn't..Big deal if games have Jet packs now..

So what if it wasn't..Big deal if games have Jet packs now..

Promised_Trini

Spot on either way jet pack are not new or revolutionary and Killzone did not take them from Halo Reach which is the point he most see.

Looks like Reach is killing itself, the player count is lower every day play it. iWin1337

Na impossible i posted pictures of that and some how i was accuse of editing the pictures on MW2 which showed double the numbers for MW2 on PS3 than Halo Reach has.

AS much as i love reach teh population is going down, it used to be 800,000, now 600,000 , then a consistent 400,000 online at one time, and then now 200,000, and yesterday it was a bit less than that. That rank cap is hurting the game and Bungie is only doing it to try and combat Black Ops.AlphaJC

You think a game is going to have as many players as it did when it first came out? Halo Reach has about 300K people on at a time.

Looks like Reach is killing itself, the player count is lower every day play it. iWin1337

i doubt you even have an xbox

I still don't see how a game exclusive to one console can kill a game exclusive to another console. KZ3 can't kill Reach, because a bunch of people playing Reach won't have access to it, just as Halo can't kill KZ for the same reason.

The only thing that can effectively "kill" the multiplayer of Halo would be a game that is on the 360 (or subsequent xbox systems) that is adopted by the Halo fanbase as a suitable replacement for their preferred game.

Kill Reach..... hahaha no.....be a killer game by it's on right.....damn straight