Can someone explain to me how pc online is the best?

I seriously don't understand why people always spout off that pc online gamiung is the best. I have one question: how exactly?

Pc online is basically a mess. It's a lot like ps2 online, every game has their own specific structure.

Yes, Xfire exists, but here's the cold truth: it does nothing. It just is a list that says whos playing what. It's not like it truly unifies the system. It's nothing more than an online now sticker. It doesn't make it any easier to hop into a game with anyone.

The whole Xfire/Steam etc. stuff is basically fueled by the fact that they let you download lots of stuff there, but that's really just an alternatvie to going to a store.

And saying pc gaming is lag free is completely false, it's about the same as psn or xbl, no different.

Seriously, this is the biggest bs statement ive heard people say. Pc online gaming is not the best. In fact, it's not even as good as PSN.

* basically this: Pc gaming fails for 2 reasons: You're not connected and be honest here, who has friends that actually play pc gaming online with them? Seriously? Talking about real friends here.

because they have user-generated contnent, dedicaded servers, larger capacities, less lag...for virtually every game.

notice how Bad Company on consoles only supported 24 players.

because they have user-generated contnent, dedicaded servers, larger capacities, less lag...for virtually every game.

notice how Bad Company on consoles only supported 24 players.

cobrax75

not really. they dont have less lag, and dedicated servers really dont do much.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.

Can someone explain how this is better?

Probably because you have things like better hardware than current gen consoles, If you have that better hardware chances are the games will look better. For the most part games run smoothly as long as you have the hardware for them to run smoothly. There are also mods and dedicated servers and everything else console users tout as being beneficial to their consoles online.

But there are downsides to PC gaming as well. For instance you have hacksthat are far more easy to comeby than modding your console which allow you to cheat in online games.

because they have user-generated contnent, dedicaded servers, larger capacities, less lag...for virtually every game.

notice how Bad Company on consoles only supported 24 players.

cobrax75

Sorry XBL better....

Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.ONLYDOD

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gaming, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leagues behind what PC can offer, and all of it for free.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]

because they have user-generated contnent, dedicaded servers, larger capacities, less lag...for virtually every game.

notice how Bad Company on consoles only supported 24 players.

Gamer4535

not really. they dont have less lag, and dedicated servers really dont do much.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.

Can someone explain how this is better?

First of all...PC games have gotten above 64...and many times.

and they do have less lag....that is the benifit of dedicaded servers, in addition to of course having a much more stable connection.

Plus there is the fact that they get user-generated content for nearly every major game...where as you guys get the luxury of paying for Horse armor.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Pinkyimp

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

not really. they dont have less lag,Gamer4535

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

Edit: To answer your latest post:

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL.Gamer4535

No it isn't.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

Gamer4535

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]not really. they dont have less lag,agentfred

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

And really- people quit mid game so much. I don't think there's many pc fps games where the teams will be constant.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]not really. they dont have less lag,Gamer4535

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

Halo 3 is not as lag free as TF2...the main problem with P2P is that if one user has a poor connection...if effects everyone else...this does not occur with dedicaded servers.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL.

Gamer4535

WoW alone is probably around the size of XBL man.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Gamer4535

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

NO REALLY!!!!! OMG, Counterstrike, right now, has more players combined than XBL, WOW for example has a huge community (and yes i can use this game, dont say "buh buh its teh mmorpgz!!!!", in terms of community size and forums it completly rapes XBL not to mention the numerous Quake 3 Arena forums, ET forums, And Battlefield forums and communities

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

Yes lol...when you have some freedom you realize how awesome it really is, the ability to share anything you want without MS or sony behind you back watching what you do is great, being able to create any kind of mods, Marketplace is much bigger and you can find almost any old pc game you want to play, yea..its that awesome

As lag free as console games

Yes, you need to also realize that a console has PC parts..IF consoles are lag free, from a hardware standpoint so will PC, its just up to the server and your connection to be able to justify that, having dialup dosent do online gaming justice, this is an invalid point and varies depending on who your talking to.

[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Gamer4535

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]not really. they dont have less lag,cobrax75

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

Halo 3 is not as lag free as TF2...the main problem with P2P is that if one user has a poor connection...if effects everyone else...this does not occur with dedicaded servers.

XBL doesn't use peer to peer. It uses client-server side hosting.

I doubt you know what you're talking about

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Hook-a-holic

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]not really. they dont have less lag,Gamer4535

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

Halo 3 is not as lag free as TF2...the main problem with P2P is that if one user has a poor connection...if effects everyone else...this does not occur with dedicaded servers.

XBL doesn't use peer to peer. It uses client-server side hosting.

I doubt you know what you're talking about

I meant P2P is the sence that the game is hosted by a user, and not by a dedicaded and independent server.

what this means is that anyone one persons lag will effect everybody else.

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

Gamer4535

Your sentence structure confuses me. :?

I've gathered you're trying to say that Halo 3 has less lag than TF2 (PC), correct?

First of all, I disagree with this statement. Second, I'd like to remind you that the amount of lag in TF2 would be dependant on the particular server. The amount of lag you would suffer varies from server to server (but in just about every case, would still be less than H3). Third, don't forget that H3 has a much smaller player cap than TF2 does, thus, it would lend itself to less lag.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]not really. they dont have less lag,Gamer4535

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

And really- people quit mid game so much. I don't think there's many pc fps games where the teams will be constant.

Latency. Halo 3 is latency ridden. I can choose servers my continent on any steam game, but I'm stuck on a US host 95% of the time when playing a game of Halo 3. Being half a second behind everyone else is quite a big handicap.

Seeing as I have the choice to only use UK based servers, instead of filtering by "language" (thats going to work) I can completely avoid this problem.

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

And really- people quit mid game so much. I don't think there's many pc fps games where the teams will be constant.

Gamer4535

Very laggy in big team battle. Seriously.

cobrax75

I meant P2P is the sence that the game is hosted by a user, and not by a dedicaded and independent server.

what this means is that anyone one persons lag will effect everybody else.

but it doesn't.

peer to peer means essentially that everyone is getting their data from everyone else. There is no main source. Each player will upload their info to everyone else and everyone will download it from everyone else.

Server hosted means that players will upload it to the server and everyone will download it from it.

Client hosted means everyone will upload it to a the host and everyone will download it form them.

Halo uses a mixture of the latter 2.

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]not really. they dont have less lag,redstormrisen

Sure they do.

and dedicated servers really dont do much.Gamer4535

Yes they do.

more players? yea, sure. but truth is, your not going to get above 64 anywhere.Gamer4535

Yes you can.

I hope I answered your questions. :P

So explain to me how Halo 3 is how it is. seriously.

as lag free as TF2. Actually, probably has less.

PC gaming online revolves aroudn this statement "It's the best because..."

And really- people quit mid game so much. I don't think there's many pc fps games where the teams will be constant.

Latency. Halo 3 is latency ridden. I can choose servers my continent on any steam game, but I'm stuck on a US host 95% of the time when playing a game of Halo 3. Being half a second behind everyone else is quite a big handicap.

Seeing as I have the choice to only use UK based servers, instead of filtering by "language" (thats going to work) I can completely avoid this problem.

You have that option in Halo 3.

Sort by- Quickest, My Language, Best Connection.

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

Gamer4535

World of Warcraft :|

Thats what like about 10 million right there. Then you know there are other games for the PC too.

[QUOTE="Hook-a-holic"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Gamer4535

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

given that WoW alone has more users than the entire XBL community...and that counterstrike, a 10 year old game is more popular than Halo 3...yes.

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Hook-a-holic"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.cobrax75

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

given that WoW alone has more users than the entire XBL community...and that counterstrike, a 10 year old game is more popular than Halo 3...yes.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea? so. I had 3 accounts. I again dont pc game constantly, I just do it for a couple of games.

And CS is more popular than Halo 3? I want a link to this :lol:

----> I think that statement summarizes it. Pc gamers talk out of... ah.. I won't go there.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

Gamer4535

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Hook-a-holic"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Gamer4535

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

given that WoW alone has more users than the entire XBL community...and that counterstrike, a 10 year old game is more popular than Halo 3...yes.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea? so. I had 3 accounts. I again dont pc game constantly, I just do it for a couple of games.

And CS is more popular than Halo 3? I want a link to this :lol:

no, it has 11 million ACTIVE accounts.

as for Counter Strike...I just checked...Halo 3 has slightly more players playing online right now...but Counter Strike is more widespread...and as a result gets more unique users every day.

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

agentfred

11 registered users every month? Again where's this info coming from? The commerials advertise "10 million people have experienced it already" so id assume they wouldn't deflate there number

Still waiting on that CS link....

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]

I'm fairly confident that more people play PC games online than XBL. I'm not sure how you can even think that the PC is smaller than XBL in the online gaming department. And you do realize that lag is often caused by a bad server and/or a bad internet connection? The only times when I have actually lagged is when my sister was on youtube and watching 50 music videos at the same time or the server i was playing on was crap.
Hook-a-holic

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

Gamer4535

11 registered users every month? Again where's this info coming from? The commerials advertise "10 million people have experienced it already" so id assume they wouldn't deflate there number

Still waiting on that CS link....

its 11 million active users...its stated on Blizzards site....

they even had to define active for people like you.

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Hook-a-holic"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.cobrax75

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

given that WoW alone has more users than the entire XBL community...and that counterstrike, a 10 year old game is more popular than Halo 3...yes.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea? so. I had 3 accounts. I again dont pc game constantly, I just do it for a couple of games.

And CS is more popular than Halo 3? I want a link to this :lol:

no, it has 11 million ACTIVE accounts.

as for Counter Strike...I just checked...Halo 3 has slightly more players playing online right now...but Counter Strike is more widespread...and as a result gets more unique users every day.

can I have the link?

Because something tells me you're comparing CS's last week/month to Halo 3's activity at this moment.

You do understand that every day almost a million different people play Halo 3?

And that's not even taking into account that multiple people share xbl accounts where they'd jsut create seperate ones for the pc.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million.

Gamer4535

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Hook-a-holic"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Gamer4535

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

given that WoW alone has more users than the entire XBL community...and that counterstrike, a 10 year old game is more popular than Halo 3...yes.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea? so. I had 3 accounts. I again dont pc game constantly, I just do it for a couple of games.

And CS is more popular than Halo 3? I want a link to this :lol:

if i remember correctly thats 10mil ACTIVE accounts..as in people playing regularly and activly every day

CS is featured in MANY pro-gaming/E-sports competitions, WCG, ESWC, CEVO, CS also has world wide recgonition, its like the Starcraft of the FPS world...Halo is popular, but in terms of a big community, more players, various tournaments CS completly outshines Halo in those areas,

one example is Japan, do you really think they give 2 **** about Halo?, yet CS has alot of korean players, swedish players, german players and pro clans in various parts of the world as well. the way i see it, thats much more popular than halo

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million.

BumFluff122

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

That's data for the past month. You can't possibly be serious?

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Hook-a-holic"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Because ya' know, it's PC, everything is better on PC.Gamer4535

There is some truth to that statement

Steam does Whatever XBL does for free

Mod Supported, the only console game is UT3 that is mod supported and that failed online

Much bigger community/forums

Usually Free updates for games (see TF2)

NOT under a unified system (Freedom is awesome)

and many others, i could list a few but you should get the point...and Xfire does "Nothing", it was made for a reason..but sense Steam is taking the spotlight in the online gaming community not many people use Xfire that much

PC gameing, for the most part, IS lag free, unless its a server problem or your own every PC game runs lag free, i had more console games with glithces/lag than TF2 so far.

PC gaming online is the best, and will continue to be, the only thing even close to it is XBL, Nintendos and Sonys suck so far, and XBL is leauges behind what be can offer and all of it for free.

No, pc gaming online is much smaller than XBL. And forums? You realize that pc gaming online =/= internet

Not being unified is good? Seriously?

As lag free as console games

You really think that as a whole, there are more constant pc players than XBL players?

Seriously?

And by that I mean someone who plays constantly online. I play TF2 online, but that's just one game.

given that WoW alone has more users than the entire XBL community...and that counterstrike, a 10 year old game is more popular than Halo 3...yes.

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea? so. I had 3 accounts. I again dont pc game constantly, I just do it for a couple of games.

And CS is more popular than Halo 3? I want a link to this :lol:

no, it has 11 million ACTIVE accounts.

as for Counter Strike...I just checked...Halo 3 has slightly more players playing online right now...but Counter Strike is more widespread...and as a result gets more unique users every day.

can I have the link?

Because something tells me you're comparing CS's last week/month to Halo 3's activity at this moment.

You do understand that every day almost a million different people play Halo 3?

no, Im going by gamespy current stats for Counter Strike.

http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/

and Bungie's stats for Halo 3.

http://www.bungie.net/

like, I said, Halo has slightly more right now...but thats only because no many Counter Strike players come from Asia, where its currently sleeping time...where as Halo 3 has virtually no Asian players.

[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

Gamer4535

11 registered users every month? Again where's this info coming from? The commerials advertise "10 million people have experienced it already" so id assume they wouldn't deflate there number

Still waiting on that CS link....

Why, thank you for asking.

http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080915.html

10.9 million active. ;)

By the way, for the final nail in the coffin, there are roughly 18 million MMORPG players every single month.

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart4.html

Are we done here?

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

agentfred

11 registered users every month? Again where's this info coming from? The commerials advertise "10 million people have experienced it already" so id assume they wouldn't deflate there number

Still waiting on that CS link....

Why, thank you for asking.

http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080915.html

10.9 million active. ;)

By the way, for the final nail in the coffin, there are roughly 18 million MMORPG players every single month.

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart4.html

Are we done here?

nope. not according to the stat tracking thing.

It says that in the past 30 days theres been about 3 million people on.

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

Anyway, howd this turn into a player count debate? Lol. barely even what my threads about. Anyway, Im out. Seems that the hermits like to do this:

7.81 million people on FF7 right now:http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=756®ion=All

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"]

wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million.

Gamer4535

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

That's data for the past month. You can't possibly be serious?

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

Gamer4535

11 registered users every month? Again where's this info coming from? The commerials advertise "10 million people have experienced it already" so id assume they wouldn't deflate there number

Still waiting on that CS link....

Why, thank you for asking.

http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080915.html

10.9 million active. ;)

By the way, for the final nail in the coffin, there are roughly 18 million MMORPG players every single month.

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart4.html

Are we done here?

nope. not according to the stat tracking thing.

It says that in the past 30 days theres been about 3 million people on.

I don't even know what you're refering to, but I know that you are wrong. Just give it up man.

[QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="Gamer4535"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Gamer4535"]wow has a total lifetime players of 10 million. yea?

Gamer4535

11 registered users every month? Again where's this info coming from? The commerials advertise "10 million people have experienced it already" so id assume they wouldn't deflate there number

Still waiting on that CS link....

Why, thank you for asking.

http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080915.html

10.9 million active. ;)

By the way, for the final nail in the coffin, there are roughly 18 million MMORPG players every single month.

http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart4.html

Are we done here?

nope. not according to the stat tracking thing.

It says that in the past 30 days theres been about 3 million people on.

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

Anyway, howd this turn into a player count debate? Lol. barely even what my threads about.

Thats becuase it only tracks western realms, the majority of WOW players come from Asia.

Don't.

Feed.

The troll.