Can the gameplay of Perfect Dark stand up to that of modern shooters?

I never played Perfect Dark before, but I see that it is coming to XBL Arcade, and I saw it recieved amazing reviews, so I was thinking of buying it. My question is, shooters probably have progressed a lot in 10 years, is perfect dark outdated (I dont mean in graphics, thats obvious) Or can it still hold its own against modern shooters, and is it a legitimate game for the xbox (a big "exclusive" for the xbox). Or will it just be cool for nostalgia's sake

Ofc not.

If you never played Perfect Dark, I doubt you'll get anything out of it. It'll just feel old and kinda dumb. I think there are options to play it as a "modern shooter" but doing that would just make it lose it's Perfect Dark essence. It's nostalgia, through and through. It's a fantastic game, but it's locked in 2000.supercubedude64

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"]If you never played Perfect Dark, I doubt you'll get anything out of it. It'll just feel old and kinda dumb. I think there are options to play it as a "modern shooter" but doing that would just make it lose it's Perfect Dark essence. It's nostalgia, through and through. It's a fantastic game, but it's locked in 2000.After_Math

No, it's dated in just about ever department. However I think the remastered version has enough neat fine tuning, and it's fun for all the nostalgic reasons. Where PD does hold up is CONTENT. Seriously on top of its campaign, there is bots, splitscreen, online, and a CRAP TON of unlockables. jg4xchamp

Well, one thing I know for sure is that the gameplay will blow away Perfect Dark Zero.

Perfect Dark and even Goldeneye are not dated for a number of reasons. It has a few incredible mechanics that NO shooters today do and I cant understand why because the ideas are so fantastic. In the single player, when you play on harder difficulties, instead of the game just being more unfair, giving you less health better AI ect. Its harder by giving you more objectives to do like go to this place and take a picture of a sattelite or make sure no scientists get shot in this level, and as you rank up the difficulty the objectives get more complext. Playing on the easiest difficulty it plays like a linear shooter so if you just want to blast through the game then you can. Its brilliant

Also the multiplayer bots are amazing. You can set them how ever you want. You can control their actions, you can even make them defend certain areas ect, carry certain weapons. No console shooter since has given you any where CLOSE to the amount of control over multiplayer bots, modes, ect. Or just things to play around with and have fun in general. Like playing through the campaign everyone has a giant head or something silly like that. It sounds stupid but it gives so much replay value

There are more things like counter co-op which i also havent seen since perfect dark, which is a GENIUS mode. Its exactly like the matrix where you play through the single player and you friend is a bad guy trying to stop you as the enemies in the single player. And when you kill him he spawns as another bad guy which is just bloody brilliant

There is honestly too much to say. Sure on the surface the game looks dated, and the controls arent the best (they are no where NEAR as bad as people make them out to be now) But seriously Perfect dark is not dated because games today just dont do as much as it. Its the most feature rich FPS on a console and its only near rival is Halo 3 which just falls short of it.

havent played it yet but ive seen the control layout and rememeber some sick weapons

so im gonna say yes it will be ahit on XBL

If it is updated into dual analogue with 60fps... it will not only stand up to modern shooters, but be a step ahead of them. Honestly, despite the limitations of the N64 (single analogue, toggle free-aim and abysmal framerates), the game really hasn't been matched yet by any modern shooter. There are elements within Perfect Dark that haven't even been attempted again. Such as bots that are nearly impossible to kill (Dark Sims) and multi-function weapons, with some of them deployable (laptop gun) and what I find most odd to be missing from modern shooters... disarming.

Perfect Dark despite its limitations, was some of the best multiplayer shooter action to ever grace consoles. And so incredibly balanced. It won't stand up in terms of graphics, or narrative... but the shooting mechanics in PD are what paved the way for most modern shooters... and most of them haven't even done everything that PD did well.

Most Nintendo 64 shooters haven't aged well at all, considering that they only having one analog stick. Think of playing a shooter on the N64 like playing one on a PSP.hiphops_savior

N64 shooters for the most part controlled much better because of a few things. In games like goldeneye ect. you would walk around and pretty much it would lock on for you for anyone in front of you. But theres a catch it takes alot of bullets to kill people, so the game insists that you stop, and aim for headshots because if there are several enemies in the room you cant afford to fill everyone with tons and tons of bullets you need to take them down as quickly as possible.

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Most Nintendo 64 shooters haven't aged well at all, considering that they only having one analog stick. Think of playing a shooter on the N64 like playing one on a PSP.VendettaRed07

N64 shooters for the most part controlled much better because of a few things. In games like goldeneye ect. you would walk around and pretty much it would lock on for you for anyone in front of you. But theres a catch it takes alot of bullets to kill people, so the game insists that you stop, and aim for headshots because if there are several enemies in the room you cant afford to fill everyone with tons and tons of bullets you need to take them down as quickly as possible.

without wanting to get in a debate, i would like to note the person arguing a 10 year old game is superior to most modern shooters is a guy with a streets of rage sig...perhaps a bit of a nostalgia fan?

Seriously though, i really enjoyed PD, and i hope it stacks up well...gonna have to wait to play it (haven't touched it since i got timesplitters many years ago)

without wanting to get in a debate, i would like to note the person arguing a 10 year old game is superior to most modern shooters is a guy with a streets of rage sig...perhaps a bit of a nostalgia fan?

Seriously though, i really enjoyed PD, and i hope it stacks up well...gonna have to wait to play it (haven't touched it since i got timesplitters many years ago)

real_nimrod

Hell yeah. Especially with online MP, updated graphics, and the Goldeneye guns and levels.

If it is updated into dual analogue with 60fps

foxhound_fox

It has both.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]It has both.

foxhound_fox

It costs 800 points actually and will come on the 17th.

mitu123

Since FPS became the main focus point of consoles the genre fell off hard and has not advanced like I think it could, so yeah PD can still hang.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]Most Nintendo 64 shooters haven't aged well at all, considering that they only having one analog stick. Think of playing a shooter on the N64 like playing one on a PSP.real_nimrod

N64 shooters for the most part controlled much better because of a few things. In games like goldeneye ect. you would walk around and pretty much it would lock on for you for anyone in front of you. But theres a catch it takes alot of bullets to kill people, so the game insists that you stop, and aim for headshots because if there are several enemies in the room you cant afford to fill everyone with tons and tons of bullets you need to take them down as quickly as possible.

without wanting to get in a debate, i would like to note the person arguing a 10 year old game is superior to most modern shooters is a guy with a streets of rage sig...perhaps a bit of a nostalgia fan?

Seriously though, i really enjoyed PD, and i hope it stacks up well...gonna have to wait to play it (haven't touched it since i got timesplitters many years ago)

Listen Im saying its superior on different levels. People are looking at PD in the wrong light is all im saying. They see the graphics and controls and say BAH TODAYS GAMES ARE BETTER WHY WOULD I PLAY THIS? Im saying play it because it does things that other console shooters DONT DO. Im not saying its a better game but that it has more content and customization that other shooters today and just does more random silly things ect. Im not really a "nostalgia" fan either, im only 18 and I only played perfect dark for the first time 3 months ago and was blown away that other games dont do some of the stuff that it does. Because the ideas it has are so fantastic and could so easily be copied or improved upon today it just doesnt make any sense is all.

I'm definitly buying it. What with the Dual-Analog controls, Online Co-Op, Online Multiplayer, and improved visuals & framerate for 800 MS Points, I'd be mad NOT to get it.

THIS is what the Original CoD Port should've been.