Can we all agree COD killed Halo?

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#1 Zune_HD
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Not KZ, not Resistance but COD. MW2 is currently beating Halo Reach. A game that's over a year and a half old is beating the latest and arguabley best Halo MP game out there. Here's XBL's recent activity week of Feb. 7th.

Xbox 360 Top LIVE Titles (based on UU's)
1 Call of Duty: Black Ops

2 Modern Warfare 2
3 Halo: Reach
4 FIFA Soccer 11
5 NBA 2K11
6 GTA IV
7 Madden NFL 11
8 Battlefield: Bad Co. 2
9 Call of Duty 4
10 Red Dead Redemption

11 Call of Duty: WaW
12 Halo 3
13 Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
14 Gears of War 2
15 NHL 11
16 Forza Motorsport 3
17 Dead Space 2
18 Fallout: New Vegas
19 EA SPORTS Fight Night Champion Demo (Full Game)
20 Left 4 Dead 2

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#2 OreoMilkshake
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In popularity? Sure.
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#3 TheColbert
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More people may play it online but Halo is the better series.
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#4 Badosh
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you some funny dude, you know that?
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Yes, as far as popularity and mass awareness goes, Call of Duty wiped the floor with Halo/
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#6 Doolz2024
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A lot of people still play Reach, though. Don't let the fact that 2 CoD games are ahead of it in XBL activity fool you into thinking its community is that of something like Killzone 2. :P

But yeah there is no doubt at all Halo's popularity has taken a hit because of CoD, but Reach is still popular and played by a lot of people regardless.

And hey look at GTA IV at #6! :D Almost 3 years old and still a lot of people play it, myself included.

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#7 Zune_HD
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A lot of people still play Reach, though. Don't let the fact that 2 CoD games are ahead of it in XBL activity fool you into thinking its community is that of something like Killzone 2. :P

But yeah there is no doubt at all Halo's popularity has taken a hit because of CoD, but Reach is still popular and played by a lot of people regardless.

And hey look at GTA IV at #6! :D Almost 3 years old and still a lot of people play it, myself included.

Doolz2024
What about the next COD that comes out this year... then Halo can get pushed to 4th and who knows what other MP hits that can come out, it could even fall to 5th.
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#8 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

A lot of people still play Reach, though. Don't let the fact that 2 CoD games are ahead of it in XBL activity fool you into thinking its community is that of something like Killzone 2. :P

But yeah there is no doubt at all Halo's popularity has taken a hit because of CoD, but Reach is still popular and played by a lot of people regardless.

And hey look at GTA IV at #6! :D Almost 3 years old and still a lot of people play it, myself included.

Zune_HD

What about the next COD that comes out this year... then Halo can get pushed to 4th and who knows what other MP hits that can come out, it could even fall to 5th.

Well, as new games come out older ones generally tend to drop off in popularity, obviously. It shouldn't surprise anyone if, by the end of the year, Reach is down to 4th or lower in XBL activity. MW2 will probably see a drop off, too. And Black Ops might be replaced by the new CoD at #1. That's just how it is.

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#9 finalstar2007
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Yes it did, more people play Call of duty now then any other FPS

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#10 taterfrickintot
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halo is still alive and kickin, and i have hundreds of thousands, if not millions who agree with me. i can agree that CoD is more populare though

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#11 Jankarcop
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More people may play it online but Halo is the better series. TheColbert

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/939212-call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare/index.html

vs

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/926632-halo-3/index.html

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/951943-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2/index.html

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http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/960512-halo-reach/index.html

It's debatable which is "better", but alot more play COD,...it killed halo.

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#12 paranoidpixie95
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While CoD is certainly more popular than Halo, I don't think that CoD is what killed Halo. I think it just ran its natural course. What other series can have five or more games and most of them retain the quality that Halo did?

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#13 taterfrickintot
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[QUOTE="TheColbert"]More people may play it online but Halo is the better series. Jankarcop

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/939212-call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare/index.html

vs

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/926632-halo-3/index.html

http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/951943-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2/index.html

vs

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/960512-halo-reach/index.html

It's debatable which is "better", but alot more play COD,...it killed halo.

it did NOT kill halo. there is a difference between not as popular and killed.
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#14 Jankarcop
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While CoD is certainly more popular than Halo, I don't think that CoD is what killed Halo. I think it just ran its natural course. What other series can have five or more games and most of them retain the quality that Halo did?

paranoidpixie95

uhh...COD? :|

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#15 DarkLink77
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In terms of popularity and casual appeal? Sure. In terms of quality? Not in this lifetime.

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#16 Grawse
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A lot of kids can't handle Reach, so they opt for CoD.

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#17 Jankarcop
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In terms of popularity and casual appeal? Sure. In terms of quality? Not in this lifetime.

DarkLink77

in your opinion.

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#18 Ace6301
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While CoD is certainly more popular than Halo, I don't think that CoD is what killed Halo. I think it just ran its natural course. What other series can have five or more games and most of them retain the quality that Halo did?

paranoidpixie95
A whole bunch of them? 2 and ODST weren't even that good by Halo standards, even hardcore fans of the series agree on that.
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#19 Doolz2024
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It's debatable which is "better", but alot more play COD,...it killed halo.

Jankarcop

No, it didn't. Halo: Reach is still very popular and played by hundreds of thousands of people. CoD did not "kill" Halo, but it did indeed decrease its popularity.

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#20 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

In terms of popularity and casual appeal? Sure. In terms of quality? Not in this lifetime.

Jankarcop

in your opinion.

Halo being a better FPS series than Call of Duty is pretty much a fact. CoD rides on hype. MW2's reviews are proof of this.
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#21 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

In terms of popularity and casual appeal? Sure. In terms of quality? Not in this lifetime.

DarkLink77

in your opinion.

CoD rides on hype. MW2's reviews are proof of this.

I can make the same exact case for Halo, I actually beleive those games have more hype effecting the score.

Only thing we can say that is certain without bringing in opinion or "hype" myths of each review.

1. MW2 has a higher average score than Reach.

2. MW2 has more players, always Reach.

I think it's clear which is "factually" the superior game.

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#22 walkingdream
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Don't worry eventually Giants fall, it happened to Mario, Halo and will eventually happen to COD. Halo is still very very popular however.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

in your opinion.

Jankarcop

CoD rides on hype. MW2's reviews are proof of this.

I can make the same exact case for Halo, I actually beleive those games have more hype effecting the score.

Only thing we can say that is certain without bringing in opinion or "hype" myths of each review.

1. MW2 has a higher average score than Reach.

2. MW2 has more players, always Reach.

I think it's clear which is "factually" the superior game.

my god. there is no factually superior game. popularity =/= superiority
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#24 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

in your opinion.

Jankarcop

CoD rides on hype. MW2's reviews are proof of this.

I can make the same exact case for Halo, I actually beleive those games have more hype effecting the score.

Only thing we can say that is certain without bringing in opinion or "hype" myths of each review.

1. MW2 has a higher average score than Reach.

2. MW2 has more players, always Reach.

I think it's clear which is "factually" the superior game.

Justin Beiber is clearly superior to Led Zeppelin as last year his albums outsold Led Zeppelins entire discography!
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#25 johnnyblazed88
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not for me i play reach almost everday

mw2 is a campfest

cant play grifball and zombies on cod

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#26 I-Doomzday-I
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Reach is far from the best MP Halo.

CE > 2 > Wars > 3 > > Reach

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#27 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

in your opinion.

CoD rides on hype. MW2's reviews are proof of this.

I can make the same exact case for Halo, I actually beleive those games have more hype effecting the score.

Only thing we can say that is certain without bringing in opinion or "hype" myths of each review.

1. MW2 has a higher average score than Reach.

2. MW2 has more players, always Reach.

I think it's clear which is "factually" the superior game.

should be comparing BLOPs to Reach champ.
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#28 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

in your opinion.

Jankarcop

CoD rides on hype. MW2's reviews are proof of this.

I can make the same exact case for Halo, I actually beleive those games have more hype effecting the score.

Only thing we can say that is certain without bringing in opinion or "hype" myths of each review.

1. MW2 has a higher average score than Reach.

2. MW2 has more players, always Reach.

I think it's clear which is "factually" the superior game.

1. So what? 2. Again, so what? It's Call of Duty. It has more players than EVERYTHING. By that logic it's the best game ever made, and anyone with a brain knows that isn't true. There's no "factuality" brought about by either of those points. The only facts that came from that are A) It scored better with critics at the time of release (and has been almost universally bashed by them since) and B) It sold more. Neither of those magically makes the game better.
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#29 gpuFX16
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In terms of sheer player numbers and popularity? Absolutely. But "killed" is not the word I would use. Halo still has a very healthy (in terms of numbers) online population.

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#30 FIipMode
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It has much more popularity sure, don't know why people use the term killed though it's very obvious Halo isn't any form of dead.

One thing I noticed is Halo is less popular than it used to be, I'm guessing that's a combination of people getting tired of the Halo formula and Halo fans moving over to be Cod fans.

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#31 johnnyblazed88
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yea it does have more players then any game so i guess it killed everything

we are all dead lol

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#32 Halcalix
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In terms of popularity, sure.
Everything else but popularity, hell-to-the-no.

Halo is overall a much more fun game. =p

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#33 timmy00
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halo is still alive and kickin, and i have hundreds of thousands, if not millions who agree with me. i can agree that CoD is more populare though

taterfrickintot

Pretty much this. Halo is far from dead. COD may be more popular but Halo Reach got plenty of people playing. To say that COD killed it is absurd.

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#34 Vaasman
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Well by that logic Wii Sports killed every game ever made.

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#35 DudeNtheRoom
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I agree with it beating it in popularity.
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#36 catfishmoon23
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Usually killed means the object you're referring to is dead, so know I can't agree tbh.

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#37 Seiki_sands
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So by that logic, it also killed FIFA, Madden, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Gears of War, Fight Night, Left 4 Dead, etc.?

Someone better tell EA to put a stop order on those checks to DICE, no need for BF3, CoD already killed it.

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#38 KC_Hokie
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I could care less since I prefer the Battlefied games. Both CoD and Halo could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care.
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#39 tehsystemwarior
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Well, Reach wasn't very good, and Halo 3 is old, so a lot of kids don't play Halo anymore.
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#40 BodyElite
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[QUOTE="paranoidpixie95"]

While CoD is certainly more popular than Halo, I don't think that CoD is what killed Halo. I think it just ran its natural course. What other series can have five or more games and most of them retain the quality that Halo did?

Jankarcop

uhh...COD? :|

It's hilarious to see the only time people here praise a COD game is when it's to bash Halo :roll:
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#41 BodyElite
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I could care less since I prefer the Battlefied games. Both CoD and Halo could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care. KC_Hokie
Of course you prefer an unpopular game over the popular... It's only the coolest thing to do on the internetz :roll:
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#42 arbitor365
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I dont see why people on a gaming forum, on the perfect platform for engaging in reasoned debate, so often resort to number battles.

"which game sold more, which game got more positive reviews?"

people.......... If you have an opinion, than defend it with your own logic and reasons

when art critics debate about the merits of old works, do they factor in how much the paintings are worth or if the majority of critics before them veiwed them favorably? no.

honestly, I think resistance and killzone both beat halo utterly. killzone 2 was better than any halo game ever made and so was resistance 2 (though not by as large of a margin). and no ammount of sales is going to change what I think about this. if you think sales and quality share a directly related causative relationship, than you no longer respect gaming as an art.

and yes, COD is far superior to halo

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#43 KC_Hokie
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Of course you prefer an unpopular game over the popular... It's only the coolest thing to do on the internetz :roll:BodyElite
No. I honestly have never liked the Halo series and haven't enjoyed a CoD game since the first one. The Battlefield games seem to be in a different league.
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#44 Grawse
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[QUOTE="BodyElite"]Of course you prefer an unpopular game over the popular... It's only the coolest thing to do on the internetz :roll:KC_Hokie
No. I honestly have never liked the Halo series and haven't enjoyed a CoD game since the first one. The Battlefield games seem to be in a different league.

Yeah, the minor league.

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#45 DarkLink77
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I dont see why people on a gaming forum, on the perfect platform for engaging in reasoned debate, so often resort to number battles.

"which game sold more, which game got more positive reviews?"

people.......... If you have an opinion, than defend it with your own logic and reasons

when art critics debate about the merits of old works, do they factor in how much the paintings are worth or if the majority of critics before them veiwed them favorably? no.

honestly, I think resistance and killzone both beat halo utterly. killzone 2 was better than any halo game ever made and so was resistance 2 (though not by as large of a margin). and no ammount of sales is going to change what I think about this. if you think sales and quality share a directly related causative relationship, than you no longer respect gaming as an art.

and yes, COD is far superior to halo

arbitor365
At last, someone reasonable in this thread. Even though he's wrong. :P
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#46 Doolz2024
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I could care less since I prefer the Battlefied games. Both CoD and Halo could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn't care. BodyElite
Of course you prefer an unpopular game over the popular... It's only the coolest thing to do on the internetz :roll:

Battlefield is extremely popular, especially on PC.

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#47 kungfuchaos
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Not KZ, not Resistance but COD. MW2 is currently beating Halo Reach. A game that's over a year and a half old is beating the latest and arguabley best Halo MP game out there. Here's XBL's recent activity week of Feb. 7th.

Xbox 360 Top LIVE Titles (based on UU's)
1 Call of Duty: Black Ops

2 Modern Warfare 2
3 Halo: Reach
4 FIFA Soccer 11
5 NBA 2K11
6 GTA IV
7 Madden NFL 11
8 Battlefield: Bad Co. 2
9 Call of Duty 4
10 Red Dead Redemption

11 Call of Duty: WaW
12 Halo 3
13 Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
14 Gears of War 2
15 NHL 11
16 Forza Motorsport 3
17 Dead Space 2
18 Fallout: New Vegas
19 EA SPORTS Fight Night Champion Demo (Full Game)
20 Left 4 Dead 2

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as far as rock solid gameplay, maps and atmosphere........BFBC2>>>Black Ops>>>Reach>>>MW2>>>MoH

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#48 Pug-Nasty
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More people may play it online but Halo is the better series. TheColbert

Agreed. And I'm not even a fan of Halo.

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#49 KC_Hokie
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Yeah, the minor league.Grawse
I'm glad the average kid with ADD doesn't enjoy the Battlefield games. Too punishing for those types.
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#50 KC_Hokie
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as far as rock solid gameplay, maps and atmosphere........BFBC2>>>Black Ops>>>Reach>>>MW2>>>MoH

kungfuchaos

Agreed.