Can we Assume that the PS3 has Reached its peak compared to the 360!!??

it seems that people seem to forget about games like Alan Wake, whom the developers themselves have said that it(pc version) would look very good when compared to the 360 version and that if you want the game to look like the 360s you will nedd at minimum dual core to quad core cpu to run it, they also claim mirror DX10 effects were being utilized on 360s version.another game that could crush Killzone 2 in graphics is Project Offset, and if that game looks like its PC counterpart they have been showing then it would look better. + maybe Gears of War 2 unreal Engine 3.5 reveal?

Console graphics King of 2007

1.tie Project Offset/Alan Wake

2.Killzone 2(very impressive looking and only at Beta stage)

3.Gran Turismo 5

4.Ninja Gaiden 2(team ninja hasn't optimized the code yet!)

5.Tie MGS4/Final Fantasy XIII if it releases.

Nameless-Hero

neither of those games have ever been shown on a console...which is why its stupid to think they will look anything like that on a 360....especially considering that Alan Wake was demoed on an extreamly powerfull PC.

Never make assumptions. Even before all the consoles were out, everybody assumed Sony would dominate both since Sony was number 1 with the PS2. But nope, Sony fell from grace and still is dead last. It's still early in the consoles life cycle. We haven't seen anything yet.

Never make assumptions. Even before all the consoles were out, everybody assumed Sony would dominate both since Sony was number 1 with the PS2. But nope, Sony fell from grace and still is dead last. It's still early in the consoles life cycle. We haven't seen anything yet.

ReverseCycology

you could just say look at god of war 1 vs god of war 2...look at the difference.

other comparions include mgs2 to god of war 2 (this is like the best looking ps2 game).

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

dream431ca

Unfortunatly for PS3 all of their exclusives are second rate junk.

lol.

Nah, we can't assume that. Both consoles aren't gonna reach their peak for a while.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

thegame1980

Unfortunatly for PS3 all of their exclusives are second rate junk.

nope. have you played uncharted or r+c or resistence (launch title...pretty good).

[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

p2rus

Unfortunatly for PS3 all of their exclusives are second rate junk.

nope. have you played uncharted or r+c or resistence (launch title...pretty good).

I own Ratchet and Clank and Resisitence and played the Uncharted demo. I dont like any of them. I find myself FORCED to play Ratchet just because I feel like my Ps3 will rust away if I don't use it. Played Resistence online almost fell asleep. Unchartedl ooked nice but I could careless for some hobo guy named Drake and his stupid reasons for jumping around in a jungle he dosne't belong in. I REALLY wish I could sell this piece of crap but it was a gift

[QUOTE="p2rus"][QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

thegame1980

Unfortunatly for PS3 all of their exclusives are second rate junk.

nope. have you played uncharted or r+c or resistence (launch title...pretty good).

I own Ratchet and Clank and Resisitence and played the Uncharted demo. I dont like any of them. I find myself FORCED to play Ratchet just because I feel like my Ps3 will rust away if I don't use it. Played Resistence online almost fell asleep. Unchartedl ooked nice but I could careless for some hobo guy named Drake and his stupid reasons for jumping around in a jungle he dosne't belong in. I REALLY wish I could sell this piece of crap but it was a gift

well the game uncharted iteself is actually much better than the demo, but the end youll have because its really kind of crappy. id try renting it, its better than it looks from the demo, and picks up after that point, gets best until about an hour from the end. then its WTF slap and youll think its dumb. because it is.

[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]:| Joke Thread? More like the other way around, Games like Uncharted: Drakes Fortune (best looking game on consoles) is only using 30% of the PS3's power. While the 360 on the other hand.. wont be getting any betterblack_awpN1

I wouldn't go that far. It still can grow as can the PS3.

It still hasent gotten a exclusive that looks better than gears. Some have come close but havent beat it in graphics. Ps3 beat gears graphics with uncharted, and already has games comming out this year looking better than uncharted. I think its peak is reached.

Uncharted looks better than Gears and its only using 33% of PS3s SPUs power.

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"][QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="dhjohns"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]:| Joke Thread? More like the other way around, Games like Uncharted: Drakes Fortune (best looking game on consoles) is only using 30% of the PS3's power. While the 360 on the other hand.. wont be getting any betteritsme185

I wouldn't go that far. It still can grow as can the PS3.

It still hasent gotten a exclusive that looks better than gears. Some have come close but havent beat it in graphics. Ps3 beat gears graphics with uncharted, and already has games comming out this year looking better than uncharted. I think its peak is reached.

Uncharted looks better than Gears and its only using 33% of PS3s SPUs power.

That's because nobody uses them properly (yet).

We can at-least assume that 30% of 360's hit there peakfartranger

Someone beat you to the punch. Sorry.

It took 5 years for the PS2 to reach 90%. And GT 5 prologue is the first game to reach 50% on the PS3. People keep bringing up Gears og War when talking about graphics on the x360, well...that's a long time ago. Right now there are bigger leaps happening on the PS3 than the x360, and those leaps will only get bigger. Martin_G_N

How is GT5 prologue 50 percent? Nobody even knows what 30 percent is. We won't know until the system is completely maxed out.

If Devs. make the PS3 the lead SKU they can do more with the PS3, but that won't be the case most of the time...

Sony games and the few exclusive 3rd party games will show what PS3 is really capable of if anyone does.

All I care about from 3rd party PS360 games is that they are high quality, next gen blockbusters with next gen graphics gameplay and sound.

If Devs. make the PS3 the lead SKU they can do more with the PS3, but that won't be the case most of the time...

Sony games and the few exclusive 3rd party games will show what PS3 is really capable of if anyone does.

All I care about from 3rd party PS360 games is that they are high quality, next gen blockbusters with next gen graphics gameplay and sound.

Heydanbud92

I don't think they will use next gen sound on the x360, all they can fit on a DVD is Dolby Digital, and that sucks. PCM 7.1 on BluRay FTW.

[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]

If Devs. make the PS3 the lead SKU they can do more with the PS3, but that won't be the case most of the time...

Sony games and the few exclusive 3rd party games will show what PS3 is really capable of if anyone does.

All I care about from 3rd party PS360 games is that they are high quality, next gen blockbusters with next gen graphics gameplay and sound.

Martin_G_N

I don't think they will use next gen sound on the x360, all they can fit on a DVD is Dolby Digital, and that sucks. PCM 7.1 on BluRay FTW.

i just mean high quality sound effects with high production values.

I find this thread stupid most of you don't know a lot about technology but let me tell you something the PS3 is the most powerful system. You can try to convince me and say it's not yata yata yata what ever floats your boat but it is the most powerful system only thing is that the format of the play station 3 is pretty much like chewing nails to create things on it. The PS3 is way ahead of it's time a Cell processor and a GPU nano chip from Nvidia the hardware in the PS3 are pretty much stellar. Cell Processors haven't even adapted on a computer yet although computers have quad core which you're basically looking at a different technology but just as high if not higher.

So get your facts straight please

1) Sony in the hardware department is stellar it's equipment is very complicated and hard to produce on it takes a lot of man hours to do so but if you can find a good formula for it, it will look better then 360 games. This was one of the reasons Sony's price tag on the PS3 was so much when it came out people judged the PS3 so quick yet developers have a totally new experience with the PS3. Uncharted Looks better then gears of war this is my opinion but bio shock on 360 looks a tab better then uncharted but then again uncharted took 33% of the PS3s power when I see games like final fantasy and kill zone 2 and GT5 you're going to see it's hardware being token advantage of more and more and more. and games will continue to look better and grow, now the ps3 and 360 at there maximum state the PS3 will look better then the 360 but the question is will the developers ever be-able to bring the PS3 to it's maximum state this is something I'm unsure of.

my word there are some funny posts in this thread by the fanboys that believe sony's hype crap...

though you lot would have learned from the two previous generations...

I heard 30% of 360s hit their peak.Darthmatt

roflmao, nice

Umm, no. Reverse that and youd be right. black_awpN1

^yup

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

septicvirus

After Assassins Creed, i am sure this will happen

Also Uncharted, a game made only for PS3, does not look as good as Mass Effect, a game with an engine not made for 360 only, which only means PS3 is just not up there with 360 in graphics department IMO

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

mercclass

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

:lol: In order to tell which system was more powerful in any previous gen - all you had to do was compare multiplats side by side. Why is it that the PS3 all of a sudden gets a free pass to this to this simple and rather logical concept?

Because multiplats don't push the systems to each's unique edge. Whichever system the multiplat starts on is going to have the advantage. Like Turok, or Burnout.

You guya are beyond funny :lol: The graphics you're seeing now on consoles is pretty much what you're stuck with. The graphics aren't going to one day become 2-3 times better.

I mean sure you'll see some better looking games as time goes on, but you'd have to be kidding yourself if you think either the PS3 or 360 can one day achieve the same graphical fidelity of Crysis, Alan Wake, or Project Offset because of "untapped power". That's just crap that devs like to say to help hype the system and game.

There is no "untapped power" in these consoles, just get over it and move on. It's 2008 already, you'd think you'd be over it by now.

Assumptions are the beginning of failure. Good job buddy.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

saolin323

After Assassins Creed, i am sure this will happen

Also Uncharted, a game made only for PS3, does not look as good as Mass Effect, a game with an engine not made for 360 only, which only means PS3 is just not up there with 360 in graphics department IMO

thats purely your opinion, the 360 can produce some beautiful visuals but that doesnt mean the ps3 cant, they produce the same level of visuals and in some depertments one console can out perform another, the 360 can produce better textures, the ps3 can have more going on on the screen at one time with no frame rate drops then the 360, and assassins creed is the exact same game on both consoles

Are you kidding ? Uncharted was about 30% of what a PS3 can really do. Don't expect to see PS3 reach the peak before the 360 does.NWA_31

Face it, what you see now for the PS3 and 360 is pretty much what you're going to get. Sure you'll see some improvments but nothing HUGE.

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

saolin323

After Assassins Creed, i am sure this will happen

Also Uncharted, a game made only for PS3, does not look as good as Mass Effect, a game with an engine not made for 360 only, which only means PS3 is just not up there with 360 in graphics department IMO

Then how come the hair in ME looks like clay while the hair in Uncharted actually looks like real hair?

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

septicvirus

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

:lol: In order to tell which system was more powerful in any previous gen - all you had to do was compare multiplats side by side. Why is it that the PS3 all of a sudden gets a free pass to this to this simple and rather logical concept?

:| that dont make no sense. lots of things can effect the performance of multiplats, how much the dev knows the console, etc. but with exclusives ther bringin out the full potential of the console, EVEN if the devs DONT know the console that much. look at resistance, and look at the images we've seen from resistance 2. look at killzone 2. look at uncharted. and at the moment burnout, dmc look basicly identical on both as well. you shud use ur brain to think then whatever manhood you have left mate.

Yeah, because we're going to see a game that is much better looking then Uncharted in the lifetime of the PS3. :roll: The PS2 came out in late 2000, so keeping in the same timeframe as the PS3 the best looking games that were out in early 2002 for the PS2 were Metal Gear Solid 2, ICO, Final Fantasy X, and GT III and no game since then in the PS2's life span was significantly better looking then any of those games that I listed.

Face it, what you see now for the PS3 and 360 is pretty much what you're going to get. Sure you'll see some improvments but nothing HUGE.

karasill

What are you talking about ? :| The sequels to the games you listed alone were graphically much better. MGS3, Shadow of the Colossus, FF XII. Can't say the same thing about GT as I've never played it.

i agree with the tc mgs4 is near completion and i asume kojima is not consider a lazy dev and from what i see and what gaming journalist have report the graphics are ok not stelar just ok .legol1

FINALLY, someone understands. First cows were claiming "Wait for the 2nd Gen games, PS3 graphics will blow 360 out tha wata!!" now, it's "wait for the 3rd gen games, they'll really unlock tha powazz!!"

c'mon, PS3 has trouble doing textures as good as the 360, what is teh CELL going to start helping that too???

[QUOTE="septicvirus"][QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

haze_blaze

:lol: multiplats are not even concidered when performance is in the discussion. Exclusives show the power of each system.

:lol: In order to tell which system was more powerful in any previous gen - all you had to do was compare multiplats side by side. Why is it that the PS3 all of a sudden gets a free pass to this to this simple and rather logical concept?

Because it's exclusives look BETTER than all the multiplats. You don't analyze the power of a system by looking at games that are obviously not the best games on the system.

Anyway, you misread the article... the devs say they are switching to the PS3 as the lead platform in order to avoid another gimped PS3 port. It has always been known that more effort goes into making PS3 games, this has to do with the architecture of the system. Third party devs such as Epic have already confirmed that it will be another 2-3 years before the PS3 reaches its peak b/c the hardware has so much potential that is still untapped by devs. At any rate, the PS3 is showing too many games that continue to be exponentially more impressive for anyone to seriously believe the PS3 has already reached its peak.

LOL, now THAT is hilarious!!!

I think you are not interpreting things right. You as well as developers are stating that it takes much more effort to get the PS3 to do the same things as the 360. The article states that they, or others, have gimped the 360 games so their PS3 counterparts won't look so bad.

I remember when the lackluster PS3 came out. Cows were screaming "TEH difficult arcitecture, devs need time to get to know it!" soooo, how many years do developers need??? THIS developer, RIGHT NOW, has a difficult time making PS3 keep up with the 360. still.

yeah, he mentions, "teh hidden powa" because its "politically correct" and will shut you guys up, but everyone knows what is going on...

i find it funny becuase you say the 360 can't keep up with the PS3 but whenever we bring up killzone 2 you guys dont say crap and switch subject what about KIllzone 2 find me a game that looks better then that on the 360.

you can't you guys just like to make things up and say sony is worst and it's quite funny. becuase the PS3 actually has more power then the 360.

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

septicvirus

Keep in mind that the PS3 has 16 core processors while Xbox has only 3. Because PS3 has 16, its very diffcult to work with it, however, you can fit ALOT more visually with 16 processors (im not saying it has better graphics). So has the PS3 reached its peak? Definitely not

[QUOTE="saolin323"][QUOTE="septicvirus"]

I never used to think this was a possibility, but I'm not so sure now. The PS3 may very well have hit its peak in terms of performance, and multi-plats on the 360 will begin pulling ahead during the years to come! Think about it, developers are starting to admit that they can do more with the 360 and the PS3 is kind of holding them back!!!

http://n4g.com/News-108218.aspx

sakura_Ex

After Assassins Creed, i am sure this will happen

Also Uncharted, a game made only for PS3, does not look as good as Mass Effect, a game with an engine not made for 360 only, which only means PS3 is just not up there with 360 in graphics department IMO

Then how come the hair in ME looks like clay while the hair in Uncharted actually looks like real hair?

LMAO!! its soo true. Nothing rivals Uncharted console graphics.

I heard 30% of 360s hit their peak.Darthmatt

[QUOTE="NWA_31"]Are you kidding ? Uncharted was about 30% of what a PS3 can really do. Don't expect to see PS3 reach the peak before the 360 does.karasill

Face it, what you see now for the PS3 and 360 is pretty much what you're going to get. Sure you'll see some improvments but nothing HUGE.

I assume you never played either God of War games because they were the pinnacle of the PS2 graphics. The first one came out in 2005, the second in 2007.

To the TC, NO you're wrong. As developers get a better grip on the hardware, we will see improvements through out the life of the system.

You got it switched buddyunasyn

wishful thinking once again...

[QUOTE="septicvirus"]EA has produced many good gamesunasyn

Yes, rehashing Madden year after year is quite a challenge.........

:lol: Pwned...