Can we get Remedy off the pedestal?

Underwhelming game aside. People were yelling to wait for the PC version that was supposed to look so much better than the X1 version but there is barely any difference. For a game by Remedy who are supposedly PC devs at heart I was expecting a lot more. Hell Crystal Dynamics took far better advantage of the PC than Remedy did.

Their last great game was released a decade and a half ago. Alan Wake was good enough but ultimately forgettable. People were calling Quantum Break a potential GOTY or even game of the gen candidate but it'll be neither. People were saying they make much better games than Naughty Dog which was true in 2002 but not any more.

They're not the PC oriented devs they used to be. They don't make game with almost revolutionary mechanics or great game play. They are a competent console dev, nothing more nothing less.

Highly disappointed by them.

I do not agree.

You're asking me to tear down my Sam Lake shrine? I worked many months on that.

Hell no, man.

To each their own. You are more than entitled to your opinion.

I have purchased Quantum Break (haven't started it yet) but I loved Alan Wake -- one of my favorite games on the 360.

I'm all for it.

I actually enjoyed MP3 more than the others.

I always thought they were good. I dont feel the need to glue myself to the nuts of any one developer though.

I haven't even touched QB, but I always thought they were hit or miss based on their past efforts. Not even talking graphics, just their game design in general. They've done some cool stuff but I never looked to them has top notch developers.

Can we not act like all gamers think alike? I've never put them on any pedestal and a lot of people have different opinions about them. Not sure why you'd write such drivel.

You should come up with something with a little more effort for your threads instead of belly aching your opinions like in a blog.

Quite sure they just had to shovel the PC port out and had next to no time to iron it. As it was co-project with microsoft pretty sure the Xbone version had utmost top priority. But ye it is what it is, being a big Remedy fan this surely was a disappointing thing. I still like the game tho.

@dynamitecop: The results speak for themselves. The game flopped and the PC port is shit.

Remedy being judged as overrated doesn't need your seal of approval.

Why do you need validation from others? If you don't want an imaginary pedestal under them, don't put it there. I have had fun with their games. I had fun with RaD's games as well. The Order not as much but I'm not going to shit on those people because of it.

Are they top tier devs? no, but they do put out some fun games.

@cainetao11: This is not shitting on Remedy. There are good/competent, but clearly not elite. Thus they are overrated.

I just looked at their game list. Max Payne was good (not great) for its time, but the rest of their games are shit.

Remedy clearly didn't get enough time to do PC version justice. They don't even own the IP. M$ should've allowed them to delay the game so they can add PC specific options in Quantum Break. And no Alan Wake is not forgettable. It's awesome. I really hope that Alan Wake 2 will be funded by someone else and not M$ because they'll screw it up.

Until they prove themselves again, the pedestal doesn't even exist. A dev is only as good as their last game, and QB, while blandly enjoyable, is far, far from what people were hyping it up to be. GOTY isn't even a discussion.

@Ballroompirate: So you agree with the premise of this topic? People have been pumping them up like they were Rockstar or Naughty Dog when they didn't have the resume to back it up.

Quantum Break NEVER looked liked a GOTY, but Lems pushed it as one.

Thank you Captain Literal!!

They were never great. Technically Max Payne was a turd and only had bullet time going for it. Funny thing is they started as third person shooter devs but Naughty Dog is not only better than them in general but has made better third person shooters than them. In Quantum Break you can not even shoot blindly from cover for Pete's sake lol.

@hillelslovak: Are you the RHCP guy? If so then you gotta now the first two RHCP albums were infinitely superior to the rest that followed.

@reduc_ab_: Alan Wake was only an 83 and American Nightmare was 78 so they were overrated even before this flop. There was literally no reason to expect Quantum Break to be a masterpiece.

Of course not. But fanboys are fanboys. They'll hype anything.

I will draw my own conclusions, and I don't need your seal of approval to have my own views and opinions.

Stop talking in absolutes, you sound like a moron.

@dynamitecop: It flopped critically(compared than expectations) and PC port is objectively bad. Not sure what you are trying to argue.

I don't care what happened "critically", this has become one of my favorite games and you need to get a mind of your own. Also I haven't played the PC port yet so I'm not about to talk like I have, that's nonsensical.

lol I have been seeing your posts and you seem really angry that QB is a mediocre game. Its ok, it happens.

Thanks cow alt, that really means a lot to me.

@dynamitecop: You supposedly own a gaming rig yet you are playing the inferior version? Why is that?

If you actually owned this game you would be aware that the pre-order PC version codes for the game will be coming out in waves over the next 7-10 days.

Ignorance is bliss, isn't it.

What the 5 Lems we have here on SW?, joking aside of the lack of Lems here Remedy is a solid dev team and they do have the resume to back it up. They may not be top tier devs (which is perfectly fine btw), but you can't deny that Max Payne, Max Payne 2 and Alan Wake were amazing games for their time(s).

Is QB a goty contender? no, but it is a fun game and to be honest it's a nice breath of fresh air seeing a game/tv show combo do it justice, cause we all know Defiance failed pretty hard at trying that.

You've had the power to at any time. Just click your heels three times.

Why not buy the PC version outright? You just had to have access to peasant version? :)

Remedy is a good dev.

However I gotta say that in SW they're being way overrated and it is not by the lemmings to be honest - it's by some hermits.

The Remedy butt-licking went way past a few lems on SW.

I feel like I should reiterate that I have nothing against Remedy or Quantum Break, but I am enjoying the fallout and damage control from this flop.

Indeed they were. I'm spinning in my grave since their last album. Speedball out!!!!

Hmm, spend $60 and get the game on one platform, or spend $60 and get the game on two platforms...

@dynamitecop: I would actually have gotten the xbox one version cheaper than the PC version which is quite ridiculous, nobody expected a PC game to cost 70€ here

Was thinking the same thing. If offered the PC version with the X1 version for the same price and you indeed own the console, where is the loss?

Xbox has no games.......haha funny how that's been turned on its head.

Same. I don't even own an X1 and probably never will but I'd still pick up the X1 version if I was interested in the game. I'd simply sell the X1 version and keep the PC version.

LOL no need to get upset buddy. I am no one's cow alt btw. Enjoy your mediocre game.

@blufalconultra: Only a cow would not going find Quantum Flop amazing...

True dat, the game is a complete disaster. Numbers don't lie....

They are pretty mediocre devs. Getting framerates in the 30s on a GTX980Ti and looking hardly better than Xbone version on ultra is laughable...

^ ^ WTH is this? PC version on ultra settings BTW: Source

Not to mention buying it that way people received Alan Wake, DLC, and American Nightmare. I already owned them but others didn't and now do for the price of one game.

Nope,

Max Payne 1, Max Payne 2 and Alan Wake are among the best games I've ever played.

And so far I'm really enjoying Quantum Break. I couldn't give a rat's ass about what paid reviewers think.

To be honest I don't blame Remedy for any of this, they did the best with that the had to work with on Xbone, and you can tell the PC port was a last minute thing as up until a month or so before release it was still branded a full exclusive.

Ultimately it's the publishers responsibility to ensure what they are releasing is up to par, if you want to blame anyone, blame Microsoft, after all they have the best software developers in the world allegedly.

They should at least fix the vsync from double buffer to tripple buffer(as this is possible on UWA proven by Tomb Raider using tripple buffer)

Of course you don't agree, you're a die hard Xbox fakeboy.

Took them off the pedestal after I played Alan Wake