Can we not accept that Microsoft won E3 this year?

Sony wasn't bad but they showed four games, all of which were already announced and had a disorganised press conference.

Microsoft showed 50 games, had far higher production values and reactivated two of their biggest franchises.

Undoubtedly many will argue but perhaps its time to swallow your pride and have the strength to admit that MS had the more impressive showing. There's no shame in it. Your favourite console won't go anywhere. Not to mention, you'll have earned my respect - and my respect will see you through.

Presentation wise? Sure. Exclusive wise? Lolno.

Sure. Not sure what they can do with a win at E3.

Devolver won E3 this year.

I didn't even know people were claiming MS won E3. I'm just here for the games really.

They didn't win anything, they did the job of showing games releasing on Xbox/PC/PS4. All platforms win from the MS conference, meanwhile Sony showed stuff only available on PS4, same for Nintendo as well.

I can agree to that. :)

How was Nintendo's E3?? I never watch them, was it good?? lol

If you're not bonkers for Smash Brothers, it was a shit show.

yeah, so MS won E3 than lol Sony had its chance!

Can't say such things around here. Cows will go crazy.

I would agree that Sony handed it to them through their poor presentation.

But XBOX remains a poor place to game on these days

MS clearly won. Anyone saying otherwise just had a bias against them.

Overall Microsoft won while Sony embarrassed themselves trying to copy Nintendo Direct’s format but failing miserably and then getting exposed even more with their anti consumer policies. This is one of the worst E3 for Sony.

I was disappointed in both for different reasons. I was hoping for a surprise exclusive from Microsoft maybe even some timed exclusive content from cyberpunk. Sony’s presser was just all around bad.

@Starshine_M2A2: MS showed 50 games, 45 of those are multiplatform so how exactly is that a win?

If showing multiplats is a win now, then sure Ms takes the lead by miles!!!

But I'm not sure that's how it works :p

Anyway, good for 'em and good for us, plenty of games incoming!!!

I can agree that their shows was more organized and straightforward than Sony's, for example, but to win? I'm not too sure. For me the win is between Ubisoft and Sony. Ubisoft also had a somewhat entertaining, well organized show with some cool surprises. I really like how Assassin's creed looks now. They made me want to play it.

Sony's first 20 mins were terrible, except for TLOU 2's demo. But they quickly turned it around and showed us what we wanted to see. Gameplay. They also showed some surprises as well like Remedy's new game and RE2 remake. Sucks that they held back some release dates though. I mean not even a general timeframe.

MS, though, had a lot of timed exclusives, multiplats, and non game related material. There really wasn't much time to really show anything substantial, except for FH4. And while it's great that they acquired new studios, I feel like that could have been announced separately from E3. It would have also been great to announce these studios along with a teaser of what they are working on. The absence of that just tells me that we won't be seeing anything from them until next gen. I would have rather have seen something else in its place, like a gameplay demo of an upcoming game. I also remember Phil stating that they weren't going to be announcing games that are too far out anymore, yet there were a few titles they showed that had no release dates (Halo: Infinite) or even a trailer that shows any kind of gameplay (Battletoads).

They even teased new hardware. It's almost like they threw a whole bunch of stuff at a wall to see what would stick.

I actually think 100% are multiplats as I don't need xbox to play them.. My computer is not as powerful as XBX (but better than XB1) but I can still play them if I choose to!

Not really, they showed Multiplatform games, as gamers we all win regardless of platform.

MS won on presentation but in actual content they failed hard. Still no reason to own an Xbone unless you’re into a HaloGearsForza. Showing a bunch of multiplats on stage isn’t a win in my book. They are advertising games that will be bought on PS4 and PC by the vast majority of gamers. They didn’t give anyone on the fence about getting an Xbone a reason to buy one, in that area Sony beat them handily. The exclusives at Sony’s conference were better than any of the exclusives MS showed. It’s like MS has pretty much given up on this gen by resorting to same ol’ HaloGearsForza.

I think MS won by having Ninja Theory join them and show some new games.. Sony had its chance but Fuxk themselves with the break after TLOU2 and no surprise announcement .. I don't know about Nintendo as I never watch any of their E3 lol

MS had the better presentation, but it didn't do much for them as a business... as they mostly showed stuff you could play on a PS4 (and will sell better there, let's be honest)

Cannot fault the presentation.

No, we can't... but Sony and Nintendo showcases probably benefited them a lot more, even being the shitshow both were.

How many exclusives did Sony showed? Didn't Xbox have 18?

E3 use to be more business wise back in the day, I mean it's still business wise but more of a showcase for fans too now. With that said, Microsoft showed other developers and potential business partners, that many developers and gaming companies chose their conference to world premiere their projects on the Xbox stage over others. The show had 18 games with Xbox exclusivity, 15 world premieres of games not seen on any other stage, and 50 games overall all on one stage, the Xbox stage. The Xbox showcase shows developers and potential business partners the Xbox gaming brand is here to stay as they grow and continue to create new studios and support gaming. So your statement about how this show not doing anything for them as a business is invalid and incorrect and doesn't hold truth based on their showcase which shows they are back in business and ready to do more business.

Nope, it was mostly just Forza Horizon 4, Halo: Infinite, and Gears of War 5 and the only exclusive that had a release date was Forza Horizon 4 launching October 2018.

The rest were multiplats and few time exclusive which doesn't count as exclusives. Overall, MS really didn't have a lot to go on but the presentation was well pace, but not enough reasons owning an Xbox One. In other words, they really didn't win E3 other then they are improving themselves but that's about it.

I won because i saw a lot of games from everyone that i will be buying.

@davillain-: can’t you say the same about Sony? No dates just videos. Or what’s the moving goal post there? You also left out crackdown which looks much better than when we last saw it.

@vfighter: because that wasn't the only thing they showed.

Still, this thread is at least useful in finding out who the ps4 fans are and who the mad cow diseased trolls are.....

We already know Crackdown 3 has been push to February 2019 before E3 2018 started and I was focusing on the current MS exclusive games that were first announce at the presentation, nothing more.

Sony show exclusive games and gameplay, more then enough reasons to own a PS4. Spider-Man PS4 was the best thing I love for the most parts and follow by Control.

@davillain-: Sony did announce any new exclusives though. It was all 3rd party and stuff we’d seen before

So what is the criteria to win E3? It changes every year here, quatity, quality, presentation or which ever platform you're dick riding at this current time.

I would say Microsoft won E3. Doesn't change the fact that I still probably will not get a Xbone.

They have made a lot of progress, but this generation is long gone for Microsoft.

Congrats?

Microsoft is Making Multiplats Great Again conference!

Their presentation wasn't bad at all, I just hate how everything was a "world premiere" (that's just what happens when you have the first press conference), and how were two games (PUBG and I can't 'member second one) still "console launch exclusive", the XBoneX launched almost a year ago- does M$ have another console coming out any time soon?

I also feel that they deliberately stagger the trailers so that when they announce multiplats between exclusives it "tricks" non educated gamers to believe that the multiplats ARE exclusive. They just showed a lot of multiplatform games, and rehashed announced games from last E3 that still aren't out and aren't gonna come out in 2018 anyway.

I'm not a fan of the Crackdowns so I don't care that it will likely still be a trailer next E3, I also don't like the Halo franchise so I don't care that the trailer they showed was either mid next-gen or just a complete lie. Gears 5 will be good, Ori (still) looks outstanding, another Cuphead is cool beans, and I will enjoy the next Forza Horizon I'm sure, but IMO Smash Bros Ultimate "won E3" all by itself.

Also, I feel that I have to mention that this post is a "world premiere" and "exclusive" to System Wars ;)

I would love to say that, but I don't think they should get too much credit for presenting multiplat games. As for their first party titles, it was the same franchises we see, but I will say Forza Horizon 4 looks amazing. With Halo, we barely have any info; it was announced just to please people. Gears has a 2019 release date but that could easily be pushed back. Just look at Crackdown.. which still looks like crap.

How do you "win" a conference?

Was there a Top Comedy Act Award for this E3? MS would definitely have won that.

They invited everyone to their show then showed everyone else's games because they have none of their own LOL!

Gears 5 looked good, out and out movie game though so Lems will apparently hate it. Halo Infinite is a next gen console game and f*** Forza.

They won nothing.

^^^

I'd like to know that aswell. Entertain an audience? Sure. Win? Thats a littel to much for a bunch of guys showing trailers and speak some corporate bullcr4p in between

How was RE2 a surprise? It was announced a longgg time ago and was expected at some stage during E3 (along with DMCV)

So you mention MS having a load of multiplats, yet mention RE2 and Remedys new games as a "plus" for Sony?

LOL

As an E3 presser, it was in another league compared to Sonys.

Microsoft had the better showcase, but I don't think it changed the landscape that much tbh.

Holy fuckin thread backfire LOL

When it came down to it, it was the was Halo/Gears/Forza meme, everyone else's games and "We bought some studios that already make exclusive games for us. You'll see the fruits of their labor in the next decade... maybe!". It wasn't a waste of time, but it needed to more substantial for Microsoft themselves.

MS did have the better show, but with that said...

FOR THE REMAINDER OF 2018..................

Forza Horizon 4 is the only AAA exclusive MS has coming to XB1!

Sony still has Spiderman PS4 (a bigger franchise name than GoW)

and

Nintendo has Super Mario Party, Smash Bros Ultimate and Pokemon all 2018 for Switch.

So...yea MS has the best show but what did that really win xbox in the end? If we're going by actual games releasing, MS still came in last place.

@quadknight: damage control

I think it's safe to say that you win E3 based on the most progression that was showcased during the presentation of said brand and compare it to before E3. Microsoft adressed the biggest issue that people complained about; Acquiring first party studios. They showed off a lot of multiplatforms yes, but they will look and play best console wise on Xbox one X, they improved it's services and shared a ton of insights on what their brand identity is and will be like in the future and lastly the big 3 looked in their best shape they have been in yet. The amount of exclusives are becoming more scarce when it comes to brand identity too. Xbox vs ps2 had many more exclusive wars. Xbox 360 vs PS3 less than that, Xbox one vs PS4 even less. A lot of series which at one point in time were exclusives are now mostly multiplatform. Many original Playstation series have gone multiplatform. And that's the card that M$ is playing. They don't care for exclusivity much as they do for services. Exclusive preference is subjective too. Since many simply don't have a gaming pc running a GTX 1070 or higher. Xbox One offers a very decent line up with a lot of total available games backed by amazing online services.

If you are into multiplayer console gaming I find it hard to believe you'd prefer Playstation 4 over Xbox One X but good, I must live in a different world.

The before and after E3 impressions of M$ are clear. They had the best presentation there is not much to be discussed there.

The next Xbox has even been hinted at, and once again they aim to be the most powerful one next gen. If they can upgrade their services and first party variety even more we are finally looking at a very healthy competition again with PS5 VS Xbox^2. And that is a very good thing for the industry. If you say otherwise you are a pure salty fanboy at heart.