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#101  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: But you haven't beat anyone you look like a rabid clown and just classified all RPG's as the same. You just called Witcher games a rehash!!

No bro a rehash is what you get from MS studios hence why they can never get above B-tier. Keep providing the laughs clown I love to wreck you.

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#102 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Pedro said:
@Vatusus said:
@goldenelementxl said:

Naughty Dog has only made one great game. The Last of Us is the only one I would give any praise. The Uncharted series probably the most overrated of the past 2 generations.

I'm gonna take a guess and say you never played Jak and Daxter...

He said great game. :P

Exactly. He never played Jak and Daxter

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#104 Fedor
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@razzle11: I guess MS studios are D tier then. Makes sense, Lems love the D. Who's alt are you btw?

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#105 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@blackhairedhero said:

I think people need to really analyze what tier a studio fits in.

Top tier or S- tier to me are studios that consistently find commercial and critical success in different IP's or genres. These are the very best in the industry. With games that consistently hit 9+ on metacritic never below an 8 and have good to great sales that go with it. In my mind ND and SSM are realistically the only two that would be in that category for Sony however that's pretty amazing because to me that's a very small category and honestly Microsoft has nobody in this tier. Top tier studios would be the following.

S-tier

Rockstar Games

CD Project Red

Sony Santa Monica

Naughty Dog

Nintendo

Blizzard

The second is is A tier. These are devs that score consistently in the mid 8 to 9s but never below an 8 with decent sales. And also find a way to do it in different genres or with multiple Ip's . Just outside of the elite. They would be the following.

A- tier

Capcom

From Software

Crystal Dynamics

Rocksteady

The Third is right below that. I think most people would call this B- tier but these are still great devs. These studios are ones that usually average 8 on MC with some 9s and have solid to good sales. They may also be one trick ponies meaning they have only done one very specific genre well which keeps them from being in the S or A tiers. They may have a few missteps along the way but never below a 7 and they are rare. Microsoft's best studios belong in this category and Sony has some of their best studios here as well. I would put the following studios on this list.

B-tier

Insomniac

343 studios

The Coalition

Gurilla Games

Sucker Punch

Turn 10

Ninja Theory

Obsidian

Media Molecule

Playground Games

Then next would be C tier. These are devs that may have a good mix of hits and misses. The best games they make score 8+ on MC with decent sales but they have quite a few 7s and some below. The following are

C-tier

Sony San Diego

Ubisoft Montreal

Polyphony Digital

Sony Japan

Bioware

Dice

Rare

The next would be D-tier. These are studios that consistently that really struggle to have any titles in the 8+ range or are just unproven and haven't released enough for us to have an idea of what their capable of.

D-tier

Sony Bend

Undead labs

Compulsion games

So honestly anything B-tier or up in my book is worth getting excited about. My list is mostly compromised of their work over the last 10 years as studios can change tiers over time.

Based on your own made up reasoning you have mistakes in your lists.

CDPR is S tier but Turn 10 is B?... both are one trick ponies by your definition of the B tier and Turn 10 has a higher career score than CDPR on metacritic.

Just thought I would point out your rubbish. Also Turn 10 is probably the most consistent developer out right now, anyone interest in racing games chances are they cannot wait for another Horizon or Motorsport game.

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#106 Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: You don't know what "very specific genre" means apparently. Again no point in arguing with some that thinks all Witcher games are rehashed. You're a joke.

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#109  Edited By Fedor
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@razzle11: Huh, I agreed with you. They are B tier. All I said was MS studios are D tier. Great minds think alike so I assume you agree. These are facts, friend.

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#111 Fedor
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@razzle11: Nope, MS studios are D tier. Anyone with half a brain knows that and only a utter fool would think otherwise. I'm starting to see your mind may not be so great, perhaps you aren't the chosen one.

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#113 Fedor
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@razzle11: Its becoming obvious you lack in several areas. Charisma, looks, tact. But most of all, intelligence. Only plebian troglodytes think MS is any more than D tier. Im saddened to see you sink so low.

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#115  Edited By Fedor
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@razzle11: Sorry, I do not associate with uncultured filth such as yourself. Hiding behind an alt to praise MS, I didnt think humanity could stoop so low, yet here you are. Disgusting.

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#116 Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: Bahahaha!

I want everyone to read the stupid comment you just posted. And who the **** uses the word Dookie? Are you 6 ?

"The Witcher games are no less rehashed than the Forza Horizon games are"

This may be Sig worthy!

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#118 Fedor
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@razzle11: I am himalayan salt, you are cheap dollar store shaker salt. You are yellow mustard, I am Dijon. I'm a fine red wine aged to perfection, you're a bottle of boonsfarm. We are cut from a different cloth, mine is silk, yours is polyester.

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#119  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: It was you an alt and two rabbid lemmings. But when you're in dead last and all your best devs are B-tier what do you expect?

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#121 Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: but you haven't done that. You just look delusional at this point.

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#122 Fedor
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@razzle11: I wish I was uneducated and blue collar? Ha... Haha... Hahahahaha!!!!

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#124 Fedor
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@razzle11: Argument? I don't argue with those beneath me. I'm simply besmerching you. You have shown yourself to be remedial in all aspects of gaming and culture. Now kiss the rings of your superior.

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#126  Edited By Fedor
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@razzle11: I see I'm slowly breaking you down into the poor schmuck you are. Piece by piece I've pulled away at the illusion of logic and intelligence you so brazenly tried to imitate. We all know the truth, you can try to hide it all you like but the stench is so strong I can smell it through my phone. You're a furry.

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#127 BassMan
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@goldenelementxl said:

Naughty Dog has only made one great game. The Last of Us is the only one I would give any praise. The Uncharted series probably the most overrated of the past 2 generations.

UC, TLOU and Jak series are good stuff. Crash is alright and Way of the Warrior was shit. Overall, there is not much bad to say about Naughty Dog.

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#129 Fedor
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@razzle11: Please, we all know you aren't old enough to go to prom. Even if you were, approaching a female is your greatest fear. You know they'll take one look at you, sniff the air, and say "be gone, furry".

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#131 Fedor
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@razzle11: Your projecting will get you nowhere, heathen. I know what you do on that deviant art account you have. Those pony picture You drew... Beyond reproach.

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#133 Fedor
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@razzle11: I feel sorry for people, your parents first and foremost.

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#134 Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: no my retort is you don't know what a rehash is. That's proven by previous statements. How long does it take to make an Witcher game on average? About 4 years. How long does it take to make a new FH? About two years... why? Because it's a rehash. Facts don't care about your feelings.

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#136  Edited By Fedor
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@razzle11: Hate and rage? No, young child. Disgust is the word you are looking for.

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#138  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: Meh no not all. Capcom went from C tier to A tier over just the past few years.

FS has one bad VR game and 5 90+ games so yes they are A-tier.

Don't be butthurt if PG can make one good game other then FH I'd give them A-tier. Fable may make them top tier.

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#140  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: All are way ahead of PG that's a fact... stay mad scrub. So glad you take my tier list as gospel. Bow down scrub.

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#141 mandzilla  Moderator
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@blackhairedhero: That's an interesting tier list you made there, where about would you place Platinum Games?

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#143  Edited By Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: No CDPR and SSM are A-tier by every major. Untill you learn what a rehash is no point in arguing with you.

From software has had a 90, 89, 92. 91 over their past 4 major titles. Holy shit you are delusional.

Capcom has had 5 games in a row all high 8s and low 9s.

Obsidian hasn't had any 9+ games that I see ever.

Gurilla had a launch game was a 73 then it was a 89, 84 and 91.

Yes respect the list scrub. Hopefully MS can get out of that B-tier.

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#145 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@blackhairedhero said:

@i_p_daily: No not everyone. Just butthurt lemmings that are upset playground games isn't A tier.

Once they prove they can make something outside of racing that will change.

I'm not upset that a nobody on a games forum thinks he knows what an "A tier" studio is, but is clearly wrong.

You're just delusional af.

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#147 Blackhairedhero
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@razzle11: I love how you worship my list. I'm basically sucking your soul as you hang on to every comment I post. I love it!

Now make your own list..... oh wait don't because nobody gives a **** what you think. Meanwhile I got you salty because you know my word is gospel.

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#148 Blackhairedhero
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@i_p_daily: But you are upset. You back the side that can't get anything above B-tier. Not my fault... stay butthurt.

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#150 deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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Naughty Dog DOES NOT MAKE GREAT GAMES. They're almost all like a 7/10, including The Last of Us. I preferred Resident Evil 2.