Capcom Label PS3 sales "Sluggish"; PSP a failure

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]FFXIII, HS, MGS4willsell millions so you saying capcom games isn't good if millions on the ps3 without going multi? if so that's prove there games isn't very goodi_like_pizza

Grammar is a useful tool.

FF, HS, and MGS4 will sell based off of hype. Look at their first week's sales, then the rest of their lifetime sales. They will sell based off of hype.

RE5 will sell a ton of games because of that too. Capcom can move games on the PS3 hardware. However, at this point, do you think Zack and Wiki will sell more on the Wii or the PS3?

That's right. There is NO reason to put games on the PS3 right now. They don't have the audience.

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[QUOTE="mjf249"]Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...flashattackfina

Holy cajones, when will people stop throwing out this crappy argument.

What "chunk" has Sony taken? Seriously, what "chunk?" The DS is the fastest selling console of all time, which means FASTER THAN ALL PREVIOUS NINTENDO HANDHELDS as well. The DS is selling MORE than any previous Nintendo handheld. What "chunk" has Sony taken?

Market share is a misunderstood thing in the realm of analyzing. Usually, when new competitors are introduced, SALES are reduced. Market share will ALWAYS be reduced the introduction of a new competitor. It's just common sense. But usually, sales go down as well. That's the bad thing about new competition. Usually the sales are affected. In this case, the DS is selling MORE than anything else in history. How has the introduction of the PSP done anything to hurt the success of the DS?

It's an unfounded argument that either needs to be refined, or it needs to stop.

That's completely and totally false. In a consumer-based society, people buy what they want. There are VERY FEW people who have the option of only having one of the other. If something is desired, then it is purchased. The 20+ million PSP owners that there are would not necessarily have bought DSes. In fact, a miniscule portion of them would be likely to do so. Why would you even make an argument that you have absolutely NO WAY to prove or back up? That's a totally weak defense.

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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]FFXIII, HS, MGS4willsell millions so you saying capcom games isn't good if millions on the ps3 without going multi? if so that's prove there games isn't very goodflashattackfina

Grammar is a useful tool.

FF, HS, and MGS4 will sell based off of hype. Look at their first week's sales, then the rest of their lifetime sales. They will sell based off of hype.

RE5 will sell a ton of games because of that too. Capcom can move games on the PS3 hardware. However, at this point, do you think Zack and Wiki will sell more on the Wii or the PS3?

That's right. There is NO reason to put games on the PS3 right now. They don't have the audience.

I seriously can't understand what you're trying to say.

Just answer the last question I asked, because it's the most important thing about the post.

"at this point, do you think Zack and Wiki (or a similar, new IP) will sell more on the Wii or PS3?"

It cracks me up how cows think it is the developers job to sell Sony hardware. Developers want to make money for themselves not make money for Sony. If PS3 is not selling as good as the developer likes then ya they should be worried about putting games on that console.

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]FFXIII, HS, MGS4willsell millions so you saying capcom games isn't good if millions on the ps3 without going multi? if so that's prove there games isn't very goodi_like_pizza

Grammar is a useful tool.

FF, HS, and MGS4 will sell based off of hype. Look at their first week's sales, then the rest of their lifetime sales. They will sell based off of hype.

RE5 will sell a ton of games because of that too. Capcom can move games on the PS3 hardware. However, at this point, do you think Zack and Wiki will sell more on the Wii or the PS3?

That's right. There is NO reason to put games on the PS3 right now. They don't have the audience.

I seriously can't understand what you're trying to say.

Just answer the last question I asked, because it's the most important thing about the post.

"at this point, do you think Zack and Wiki (or a similar, new IP) will sell more on the Wii or PS3?"

says the company that was in huge debt themselves :lol: Capcom are nothing but money grabbers, they are milking their franchises. The only decent titles left is DMC,Onimusha,RE, and probably Megaman.RazMaTaz-1

Wow, it ONLY has 4 good franchises left (in the opinion of a cynic). They're doing terribly. :roll:

It cracks me up how cows think it is the developers job to sell Sony hardware. Developers want to make money for themselves not make money for Sony. If PS3 is not selling as good as the developer likes then ya they should be worried about putting games on that console.

Eltroz

[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]says the company that was in huge debt themselves :lol: Capcom are nothing but money grabbers, they are milking their franchises. The only decent titles left is DMC,Onimusha,RE, and probably Megaman.i_like_pizza

Wow, it ONLY has 4 good franchises left (in the opinion of a cynic). They're doing terribly. :roll:

FF

DQ

KH

Mana series

Chrono series

Konami

MGS

Sillent HIll

Zone of enders

castlevania

lunar series

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It cracks me up how cows think it is the developers job to sell Sony hardware. Developers want to make money for themselves not make money for Sony. If PS3 is not selling as good as the developer likes then ya they should be worried about putting games on that console.

flashattackfina

Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...mjf249

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million shipped

DS wins, end of story. The fact that Sony has to have a PSP price drop, new colors, and a redesign all withina few months proves how desperate Sony is to get themselves out of this bad situation.

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It cracks me up how cows think it is the developers job to sell Sony hardware. Developers want to make money for themselves not make money for Sony. If PS3 is not selling as good as the developer likes then ya they should be worried about putting games on that console.

Eltroz

[QUOTE="mjf249"]Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...REVOLUTIONfreak

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million shipped

DS wins, end of story. The fact that Sony has to have a PSP price drop, new colors, and a redesign all withina few months proves how desperate Sony is to get themselves out of this bad situation.

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million sold

and the DS new colors, and a redesign proves it's a bad situation? talk about spinning facts and this is coming from DS and PSP owner

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It cracks me up how cows think it is the developers job to sell Sony hardware. Developers want to make money for themselves not make money for Sony. If PS3 is not selling as good as the developer likes then ya they should be worried about putting games on that console.

flashattackfina

This source is un-reliable dude, for a couple of reason, first they dont give a link where capcome actually says this nor the Q&A the article is there yet we have no proof if this is true, also Monster Hunter a game from Capcom is the most sold PSP game in Japan, this makes no sense..... This could be true or ffake i dunno but it sounds a little wierdBlanco98

b1. http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Capcom_Label_PS3__PSP_Underachieving_11864_3307_0.htm

b2. clue in JAPAN... i thought us only matter cows :?

b3. click on link

[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"][QUOTE="D_Znuhtz"]

[QUOTE="Chrono21X"]The Monster Hunter games have done so well on the PSP they have nothing to complain about.flashattackfina

The subpar Monster Hunter games have done so well on the PSP they have nothing to complain about.

Maybe if they pulled their finger out and made some better games that would actually shift some PS3's they would have some room to talk.

Since when was it Capcom's job to sell Sony hardware?

If nintendo could never use the "3rd parties dont support us, blame them" excuse, neither can sony.

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[QUOTE="mjf249"]Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...flashattackfina

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million shipped

DS wins, end of story. The fact that Sony has to have a PSP price drop, new colors, and a redesign all withina few months proves how desperate Sony is to get themselves out of this bad situation.

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million sold

and the DS new colors, and a redesign proves it's a bad situation? talk about spinning facts and this is coming from DS and PSP owner

Nintendo's redesign, like the Gameboy, isn't out of the ordinary. The DS was winning before the redesign anyway, if not by as much, still winning. The DS Lite by the way was a necessary redesign, it improved the unit's quality immensely. The screens are four times brighter, the button layout is less intrusive, the mic is in a more appropriate place, the battery life is longer, and its much smaller, sleeker, and actually looks pleasing to the eye. The PSP's redesign? Err.... looks the same to me.

Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...mjf249

hmm cows whats again in denial.

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god i hate capcomblazinpuertoroc

god i hate capcomblazinpuertoroc

What happened to capcom...

they're banking on games like Lost Planet and Dead Rising this gen... while those are good games, they're not great, and nothing close to the awesomeness they had in previous gens.

I can almost gaurantee that RE5 will dissappoint. Capcom got rid of a lot of talent with their new found decision making tactic... with a number of capcom masterminds gone.

especially clover... GEEZ. i bet once DMC4 is done, we won't see another DMC game ever :|

What happened to capcom...

they're banking on games like Lost Planet and Dead Rising this gen... while those are good games, they're not great, and nothing close to the awesomeness they had in previous gens.

I can almost gaurantee that RE5 will dissappoint. Capcom got rid of a lot of talent with their new found decision making tactic... with a number of capcom masterminds gone.

especially clover... GEEZ. i bet once DMC4 is done, we won't see another DMC game ever :|

leadernator

Well, Capcom is absolutely correct when they say the PS3 sales are sluggish. They are. But I would have to disagree with calling PSP a failure. It doesn't have to beat the DS to succeed.Ibacai

Agreed. It has to sell software to succeed.

Oh wait...

[QUOTE="Chrono21X"]The Monster Hunter games have done so well on the PSP they have nothing to complain about. NorthlandMan

they would have sold 5 times as much if they weren't on a failure

:lol: A failure that murders the 360 in sales every month :lol:

[QUOTE="leadernator"]

What happened to capcom...

they're banking on games like Lost Planet and Dead Rising this gen... while those are good games, they're not great, and nothing close to the awesomeness they had in previous gens.

I can almost gaurantee that RE5 will dissappoint. Capcom got rid of a lot of talent with their new found decision making tactic... with a number of capcom masterminds gone.

especially clover... GEEZ. i bet once DMC4 is done, we won't see another DMC game ever :|

Eltroz

those games sold well, but are no where near the quality of their previous high profile games. just because those games sold well doesn't mean capcom had to get rid of some of their major talented teams (Clover for example). they even got rid of a big portion that worked on RE4 :|

did you read the last half of my post? i'm concerned with the level of quality in RE5. i don't know why anyone ever brings this up, but they showed the first footage of RE5 over a year ago. what do we get this E3? another 30 seconds of footage... showing nothing but screaming zombies in africa. lame.

How could they label PS3 sales sluggish if they are taking away its exclusives like DMC4 ? Instead they are making them multiplat and are basically saying "why pay $200 more for a system when you can play the same game on a cheaper system" and because of that I will label them as the Japanese version of EA and Ubisoft.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

What happened to capcom...

they're banking on games like Lost Planet and Dead Rising this gen... while those are good games, they're not great, and nothing close to the awesomeness they had in previous gens.

I can almost gaurantee that RE5 will dissappoint. Capcom got rid of a lot of talent with their new found decision making tactic... with a number of capcom masterminds gone.

especially clover... GEEZ. i bet once DMC4 is done, we won't see another DMC game ever :|

leadernator

those games sold well, but are no where near the quality of their previous high profile games. just because those games sold well doesn't mean capcom had to get rid of some of their major talented teams (Clover for example). they even got rid of a big portion that worked on RE4 :|

did you read the last half of my post? i'm concerned with the level of quality in RE5. i don't know why anyone ever brings this up, but they showed the first footage of RE5 over a year ago. what do we get this E3? another 30 seconds of footage... showing nothing but screaming zombies in africa. lame.

could people PLEASE stop discusssing the PSP. It is a worthless broken failure with barely any quality games and a hopeless future

What's more worrying here is that capcom seemed to abandon the PS3 even before it came out with a view to supporting the 360 in its stead. This is the same mistake they made with the gamecube last gen and such stupidity will only come back to bite them

could people PLEASE stop discusssing the PSP. It is a worthless broken failure with barely any quality games and a hopeless future

What's more worrying here is that capcom seemed to abandon the PS3 even before it came out with a view to supporting the 360 in its stead. This is the same mistake they made with the gamecube last gen and such stupidity will only come back to bite them

NorthlandMan

could people PLEASE stop discusssing the PSP. It is a worthless broken failure with barely any quality games and a hopeless futureNorthlandMan

I don't like the PSP anymore than you do, but to say it doesn't have any good games is total bunk.

MGS:Portable Ops

Prince of Persia: Revelations

God of War: Chains of Olympus

Silent Hill: Origins

Socom

Lemmings ;)

Twisted Metal

GTA

and, if Sony stops being a **** about its rating, Manhunt 2

i see a lot of misplaced anger on capcom here. capcom's done nothing wrong.omarguy01

Not surprised all their PSP games except Monster Hunter have sold below expectations while their DS games have sold well both in the East and West. Phoenix Wright is an example.

Capcom does not make great Japanese games like Kojima!Little_Dong

I don't think that Capcom is calling the PSP a failure in hardware but in software.

Look at the software sales.

American

Japan

capcom dosn't have any pull in this biz anymore... not since street fighter was retired has anyone really cared about them.

lazurusKfP

Speak for yourself, fanboy.

I don't think that Capcom is calling the PSP a failure in hardware but in software.

Look at the software sales.

American

341,209333,637314,730172,692165,201158,6852,6162,409

Japan

606,94072,776,418434,0137,362,18351,441120,456,72630,24511,588,93524,9991,531,68116,5881,454,55750147,674,546

Dencore

terrible, absolutely terrible software sales for the PSP

i'd be disappointed in the PSP if i were capcom too

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="REVOLUTIONfreak"]

[QUOTE="mjf249"]Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...REVOLUTIONfreak

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million shipped

DS wins, end of story. The fact that Sony has to have a PSP price drop, new colors, and a redesign all withina few months proves how desperate Sony is to get themselves out of this bad situation.

DS= MORE than 40 million (the DS had been reported to have sold that many months ago)sold

PSP= 20-25 million sold

and the DS new colors, and a redesign proves it's a bad situation? talk about spinning facts and this is coming from DS and PSP owner

Nintendo's redesign, like the Gameboy, isn't out of the ordinary. The DS was winning before the redesign anyway, if not by as much, still winning. The DS Lite by the way was a necessary redesign, it improved the unit's quality immensely. The screens are four times brighter, the button layout is less intrusive, the mic is in a more appropriate place, the battery life is longer, and its much smaller, sleeker, and actually looks pleasing to the eye. The PSP's redesign? Err.... looks the same to me.

I'm a non PSP owner myself - but it's more than just a cosmetic redesign. It's smaller, has a couple more features(TV output) and has better battery life. Overall yeah, it looks the same... but it is the better version of the PSP. I'm glad Sony took an already good handheld, and just improved upon it. Again, I don't own a PSP - my little brother however does, and I'll admit they're pretty cool little things, I just don't have much use for them.

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[QUOTE="RazMaTaz-1"]says the company that was in huge debt themselves :lol: Capcom are nothing but money grabbers, they are milking their franchises. The only decent titles left is DMC,Onimusha,RE, and probably Megaman.flashattackfina

Wow, it ONLY has 4 good franchises left (in the opinion of a cynic). They're doing terribly. :roll:

FF

DQ

KH

Mana series

Chrono series

Konami

MGS

Sillent HIll

Zone of enders

castlevania

lunar series

The Chrono 'series' has two games with the last one released 7years ago andno indications of another one coming anytime soon. Same with Zone of Enders. The last one of those was released four years ago. Hardly what I'd call strong franchises.

Besides, someone forgot to mention Viewtiful Joe, so that's five for Capcom.

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]this is funny coming from capcom considering they hav yet to release a single game on ps3 and don't have one planned for months..ironcreed

Agreed completely. They make these claims, and yet they have not even given the PS3 a fair shake yet. They need to stop worrying about sales now, and concentrate on making a great exclusive for the PS3, and then see what happens. Afterall, games sell consoles, and the PS3 is about to have a landslide of great titles. Yet Capcom seems to have already tossed the PS3 to the side before it has ever even gotten a chance to shine with these great titles that are coming out.

No matter though, as the PS3 will be doing just fine in terms of exclusives without them. Besides, with now mutiplat titles like DMC4, which console do you think that the DMC fanbase will want to play the game on?;) And as for the much anticipated RE5....well, it is not coming until 2009, and by that time, the PS3 will have so many games, we will be swimming in them. So, I am not too worried about not having enough Capcom games, lol.

right it shows capcom arent confident about the games they will put out so they use ps3 sales as a scapegoat. they should be worried about making great games because great games will drive in sales they should know that. thats why i give kojima a lot of respect that he deserves..he cares about making games not about installed base because he knows making a great game will drive in sales

What happened to capcom...

they're banking on games like Lost Planet and Dead Rising this gen... while those are good games, they're not great, and nothing close to the awesomeness they had in previous gens.

I can almost gaurantee that RE5 will dissappoint. Capcom got rid of a lot of talent with their new found decision making tactic... with a number of capcom masterminds gone.

especially clover... GEEZ. i bet once DMC4 is done, we won't see another DMC game ever :|

leadernator

Funny how the PSP is a 'failure', when Sony has taken the biggest chunk out of any company in Nintendo's dominance in the handheld market. Hmmm...mjf249

thats what i thought, i wouldnt call 25million+ units floppage

Well, Capcom is absolutely correct when they say the PS3 sales are sluggish. They are. But I would have to disagree with calling PSP a failure. It doesn't have to beat the DS to succeed.Ibacai

Totally agree, I mean if he saying that the psp is a failure with a fanbase of over 20 million + then I guess he can also call the xbox 360 and wii a failure using his knowledge since the xbox 360 and wii fanbase isnt even that big. These capcom guys is just greedy asses, and its funny because anyone remember RE4 when they said it was nintendo gamecube exclusive and then they didnt think they made enough money so they ported it over to the ps2 aswell. These guys will always be unfaithful to any system and will jump ship to any system that sells there game the best, but never look back to remember where these big franchise games became big from such as the resident evil's and onimusha's and devil may cry's. I hope sony really becomes successful where capcom tries to comeback and sony leaves them hanging out to dry, lol. Its not like sony needs capcom anyways to be successful.