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#51 amtentori
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TC...

 

your fanboyism has blinded your judgement... its quite sad..

 

making games multiplatform is a good thing as long as the quality stays there.... now fans of halo and dmc only have to pay 400 buck and not 1000. 

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Capcom is really going to owe the fanbase an explaination if they ruin the game for all the 360 casuals. Prettymuch everything on 360 is dumbed down to mind-numbingly easy. I'd say this isn't "PS3 loses an exclusive" and probably instead it's going to be another case of 360's casual dumbass mentality ruining another series.... I mean look at what happened to Ghost Recon, Rainbow6, and Oblivion's interface.
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#53 Ryuhayabuza
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Capcom dont owe Sony @$#@$
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#54 Amit_88
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Sony doesn't own Capcom

Capcom have already had success in the next gen with the 360

More people have 360s and PCs = more profit for them

Simple really and I personally think it's great!

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I hope you never run a businessShakeNBake1491

 

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#56 TyrantDragon55
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How will this not help Capcom? The game is now available to a much wider audience than it was if it had stayed an exclusive and therefore has a much better chance to sell well.
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#57 Gen007
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capcom dosent owe a dam thing they and they will make more money then they would by releasing it only on the ps3
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Capcom is really going to owe the fanbase an explaination if they ruin the game for all the 360 casuals. Prettymuch everything on 360 is dumbed down to mind-numbingly easy. I'd say this isn't "PS3 loses an exclusive" and probably instead it's going to be another case of 360's casual dumbass mentality ruining another series.... I mean look at what happened to Ghost Recon, Rainbow6, and Oblivion's interface.Lazy_Boy88

Is this guy serious? Ghost Recon, Rainbow 6 and Oblivion? Man the cows are in full swing tonight.

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#59 gromit007
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Let me try to explain in simple terms. If DMC4 releases tomorrow (i know its later on...but for sake) on 360 and PS3, it has a potential buyers market of 11 million users. If it wasonly for PS3, the market would only be 1.3 million. See?

If anything, Capcom helped itself and hurt Sony. Is that why u r upset?

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#60 Idonomeus
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If making games multiplat doesn't make more money than why is EA the biggest game developer in the world. Need for Speed: Most Wanted sold really well on all the platforms it was released on (PS2: 4mil, Xbox: 1mil, 360 1 mil = 6 mil total)  and it's not their only multiplat series that sells well across platforms.
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#61 voxware00
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why whine NOW

and not.. when capcom ported dmc3 months ago

 

i guess things look a lot worse when theres only 2/3 other 3rd party exclusives coming out this year 

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[QUOTE="Michael85"]Dead Rising and Lost Planet both sold over a million on the 360. Why the hell shouldn't they port DMC?SuperKnightX
Devil May Cry is NOT the same type of game as LP and Dead Rising. Its very difficult and such games DMC and NG only sell great in Japan.

Devil May Cry has a respectable following in the states actually. How could Ninja Gaiden sell well in Japan when it's an X Box game?

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#63 BuryMe
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Capcom owes Sony an explanation.  Making DMC will not even make more money for Capcom and they are idiots for doing this.  People buy systems for their exclusives, and the fundamentals of system sales are based upon this.  This will niether help or make money for Capcom, DMC 4 will sell the same if not less copies than the last entrances in the series, and they owe an explanation for why they would do this.  This is not actually GOOD for the gaming economy because each system needs exclusives, imagine if ps3 got halo 3, there would be no point in buying an xbox 360.  And all you "but it has teh gear of warzzzz" shut up because xbox360 would not have existed had halo series not sold so well on regular xbox.  This will prove to be worse for gaming that better.escaflowne36
your logic makes no sense. how is releasing the game on 2 systems going to make it sell less than releasing it on just 1 system?

and capcom does not owe sony an explaination. as a 3rd party developers, they care about selling games, not consoles.

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#64 Michael85
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[QUOTE="Michael85"]Dead Rising and Lost Planet both sold over a million on the 360. Why the hell shouldn't they port DMC?2largeadults
Similarly, offering Dead Rising and Lost Planet on the PS3 means more money without a significant re-investment into new game production. See how it works.

If you're going to be a smartass, at least punctuate your questions correctly.
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[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Michael85"]Dead Rising and Lost Planet both sold over a million on the 360. Why the hell shouldn't they port DMC?TyrantDragon55

Devil May Cry is NOT the same type of game as LP and Dead Rising. Its very difficult and such games DMC and NG only sell great in Japan.

Devil May Cry has a respectable following in the states actually. How could Ninja Gaiden sell well in Japan when it's an X Box game?

DMC only sells well in Japan :| Sales for DMC in each region. US: 1.29 million, Japan: 0.65 million, others: 0.83 million. Seems to me it sells best in the US.

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[QUOTE="2largeadults"]Capcom owes Sony nothing. They're in it to make money. Apparently, Sony wasn't selling consoles quickly enough to establish a huge fan base. By offering their game on another platform, Capcom has boosted its own sales without having to rely on Sony. That's smart business.

And smart business, is exactly what MS is doing. If they buy T2, it's over for Sony in the US.
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#68 noorur
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I see absolutely no logic at all in what the TC is trying to say. U claim that exclusives define a system ??? What the hell are first-party developers for ?? Capcom does not owe Sony an explanation for any of their actions regarding the support of their competitors!! Capcom isn't owned/controlled by Sony at all!! If Capcom did have to give an explanation, they would probably say "Dead Rising sold more than a million on the 360, Lost Planet sold more than a million on the 360, we'd be COMPLETE IDIOTS NOT TO PUT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 ON THE 360, BECAUSE THAT IS A GUARANTEED TO SELL MORE THAN DEAD RISING AND LOST PLANET BOTH PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE IT IS AN ESTABLISHED FRANCHISE!!"

I'm not suprised that Capcom is bringing DMC4 to 360, following the success of Lost Planet and Dead Rising.  It would be logical for them to put an established franchise on the 360, because it is guaranteed to sell more than new IPs (LP and DR).

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#69 TyrantDragon55
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]

[QUOTE="SuperKnightX"][QUOTE="Michael85"]Dead Rising and Lost Planet both sold over a million on the 360. Why the hell shouldn't they port DMC?Idonomeus

Devil May Cry is NOT the same type of game as LP and Dead Rising. Its very difficult and such games DMC and NG only sell great in Japan.

Devil May Cry has a respectable following in the states actually. How could Ninja Gaiden sell well in Japan when it's an X Box game?

DMC only sells well in Japan :| Sales for DMC in each region. US: 1.29 million, Japan: 0.65 million, others: 0.83 million. Seems to me it sells best in the US.

My point exactly.

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capcom doesn't own sony squat
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#71 BuryMe
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the point is that it makes to sense in porting DMC4 to the 360. just like the others stated, people buy consoles for the games. Capcom isnt the only company that needs to explain....Namco Bandai does too sense they are now releasing Ace Combat 6 on the 360. Those were some of the main franchises that made me want to purchase a PS3. It makes no sense at all for them to go multiplatform or even make the new platform an exclusive to them only. what they should of done was make new franchises instead of switching consoles and continuing the old ones on them.

 

I mean the Air/Ace Combat and Devil May Cry series has been on Sony's platforms from day one on both PS1 and PS2. That's like all of a sudden putting the HALO series on PS3.djxaquaxblue

no it's not. DMC and ace combat are both 3rd party franchises, and halo isn't.

and it makes perfect sense for them to go multiplat. if less people have a system, then less people will buy the game for the system. so tel sell more copies, the companies are releasing their games on 2 systems

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Capcom owes Sony an explanation. Making DMC will not even make more money for Capcom and they are idiots for doing this. People buy systems for their exclusives, and the fundamentals of system sales are based upon this. This will niether help or make money for Capcom, DMC 4 will sell the same if not less copies than the last entrances in the series, and they owe an explanation for why they would do this. This is not actually GOOD for the gaming economy because each system needs exclusives, imagine if ps3 got halo 3, there would be no point in buying an xbox 360. And all you "but it has teh gear of warzzzz" shut up because xbox360 would not have existed had halo series not sold so well on regular xbox. This will prove to be worse for gaming that better.escaflowne36
are you serious? more games sold= more money. it's the most simple thing to under stand. you sadden me.
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#73 noorur
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Mods Please lock this thread or delete it, because it is absolutely ridiculous.
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#74 X360PS3AMD05
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Let's see, more people own 360s, Capcom is a company that wants to make money, they then release their multi-million dollar games on the 360, makes sense. They don't need to explain anything to anybody.
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hahahahaha nice.
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Explanation for what? Trying to maximize their profits? Unless Capcom signed some secret contract agreeing to coddle Sony I don't think they have to justify anything.

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#78 JLei2k
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They owe Sony nothing. It's really a case of simple economics. Many more users on the 360 and PC = more potential sales therefore they make it multiplat. Also considering how well Capcom games have been doing on the 360 this really shouldn't be big surprise also given that RE5 is also going to be on the 360.
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[QUOTE="CubeJL"]PS3FansMayCrynoorur
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Capcom owes Sony an explanation. Making DMC will not even make more money for Capcom and they are idiots for doing this. People buy systems for their exclusives, and the fundamentals of system sales are based upon this. This will niether help or make money for Capcom, DMC 4 will sell the same if not less copies than the last entrances in the series, and they owe an explanation for why they would do this. This is not actually GOOD for the gaming economy because each system needs exclusives, imagine if ps3 got halo 3, there would be no point in buying an xbox 360. And all you "but it has teh gear of warzzzz" shut up because xbox360 would not have existed had halo series not sold so well on regular xbox. This will prove to be worse for gaming that better.escaflowne36

Wow...this mad cow disease is spreading... 

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I like your Resistance fall of Man 146th sniper ranking. Too bad only 146 people actually played the game online.:lol:

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Say the ps3 was only 100 dollars, and you wanted to play DMC 4 (and it was still exclusive), you would buy a ps3 to play DMC 4, and the sony exclusives. With less exclusives, both sony and capcom lose money, because someone buys a system for its exclusives. if nothing was exclusive, the only reason people would buy one system over another is like...the controller or free online. Capcom will not make as much money off this, than they would have had they kept DMC 4 exclusive. escaflowne36

 You see, there's the difference between you and me. I buy systems to play games not just to wait for exclusives. And 90% of the market are like me. Exclusives are just a nice bonus. However I would never in my right mind buy a $250, $400 or $600 anything just for one or two games - not going to happen for me. Sometimes there is a game or two that I would like to play, but can't because it isn't comming to the system I own, however I can live with that. And even then I can go and borrow a system from a friend or a shop just to play this game.

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#83 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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This thread makes absolutely no sense.

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#84 High_Fly
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DUH! more user base more copies sold more money in the pockets! common logic.
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#85 kage_53
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Capcom is a third party developer/publisher. They can do whatever they want since they aren't owned by any company.
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its all about money, not exclusives, thats why ps3 games and 360 games going to both systems, the only thing both companies have a leg of differences will be online and first party games now.
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DMC3 was multiplat because it was on PC...
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#88 glitchgeeman
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Your logic is rather flawed there. For me in example, multiplats are a good thing because it means I can get a cheaper version of a game instead of having to dish out $600 for it. Instead, now I just have to pay up $400, which is still a bunch of money, but it's a lot less.
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Hate to tell you, but multi-platform is the wave of the future due to development costs. Only systems with a low development costs will get alot of 3rd party exclusives.
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Dead Rising and Lost Planet both sold over a million on the 360. Why the hell shouldn't they port DMC?Michael85
Completely off topic, I really liked lost planet, but I just bought dead rising yesterday...and the game just blows. I dont understand whats so great about it, I must be missing something. I just cant believe dead rising is so popular.
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[QUOTE="For me in example, multiplats are a good thing because it means I can get a cheaper version of a game instead of having to dish out $600 for it.

 

See thats another thing...what if we already had a PS3 and they end up not making the game for that system at all because of the user base crap? From what I'm seeing DMC4 is going to be on both consoles but as for Ace Combat 6....if they make it exclusive to the 360 then that's pretty mest up especially if your a big fan of the series.  

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[QUOTE="For me in example, multiplats are a good thing because it means I can get a cheaper version of a game instead of having to dish out $600 for it. djxaquaxblue

 

See thats another thing...what if we already had a PS3 and they end up not making the game for that system at all because of the user base crap? From what I'm seeing DMC4 is going to be on both consoles but as for Ace Combat 6....if they make it exclusive to the 360 then that's pretty mest up especially if your a big fan of the series.  

 

Well, they have a higher chance of making money on a console with 10 million vs. 1.8 million, maybe fans shouldnt have jumped the gun to buy a console before the game was announced. Too bad, they should have bought a 360, I'll let them know how AC6 is.

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Explanation: "we want to make money" /Explanation Capcom can do anything they want with there products. Sony doesnt have any kind of an exclusivity rights or anything. Anyone who said Capcom would LOSE money by going multiplat needs to take an econ class.
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Capcom owes Sony an explanation.  Making DMC will not even make more money for Capcom and they are idiots for doing this.  People buy systems for their exclusives, and the fundamentals of system sales are based upon this.  This will niether help or make money for Capcom, DMC 4 will sell the same if not less copies than the last entrances in the series, and they owe an explanation for why they would do this.  This is not actually GOOD for the gaming economy because each system needs exclusives, imagine if ps3 got halo 3, there would be no point in buying an xbox 360.  And all you "but it has teh gear of warzzzz" shut up because xbox360 would not have existed had halo series not sold so well on regular xbox.  This will prove to be worse for gaming that better.escaflowne36
so what ur saying is because ur a Cow u think that Capcom owes Sony an explanation for getting rid of one of the top reasons for buying their console? lol stupidest post ever- Capcom are an independent company that can do what they like- if they think they can sell more copies buy making the game multiplat than its up to them.
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Capcom owes Sony an explanation.  Making DMC will not even make more money for Capcom and they are idiots for doing this.  People buy systems for their exclusives, and the fundamentals of system sales are based upon this.  This will niether help or make money for Capcom, DMC 4 will sell the same if not less copies than the last entrances in the series, and they owe an explanation for why they would do this.  This is not actually GOOD for the gaming economy because each system needs exclusives, imagine if ps3 got halo 3, there would be no point in buying an xbox 360.  And all you "but it has teh gear of warzzzz" shut up because xbox360 would not have existed had halo series not sold so well on regular xbox.  This will prove to be worse for gaming that better.escaflowne36
if that's the case they owe the explenation to nintendo and not sony.
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#96 Blinblingthing
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Capcom owes Sony nothing. They're in it to make money. Apparently, Sony wasn't selling consoles quickly enough to establish a huge fan base. By offering their game on another platform, Capcom has boosted its own sales without having to rely on Sony. That's smart business.2largeadults

lmao, ps3 sold quicker than 360

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#97 Ontain
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then sony owes Capcom and explanation on why there isn't a larger userbase.
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Capcom is really going to owe the fanbase an explaination if they ruin the game for all the 360 casuals. Prettymuch everything on 360 is dumbed down to mind-numbingly easy. I'd say this isn't "PS3 loses an exclusive" and probably instead it's going to be another case of 360's casual dumbass mentality ruining another series.... I mean look at what happened to Ghost Recon, Rainbow6, and Oblivion's interface.-Super-Fly-

Is this guy serious? Ghost Recon, Rainbow 6 and Oblivion? Man the cows are in full swing tonight.

or what about ninja gaiden? that game was super easy. nice try lazy_boy :roll:
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#99 rdo
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Capcom owes Sony an explanation.  Making DMC will not even make more money for Capcom and they are idiots for doing this.  People buy systems for their exclusives, and the fundamentals of system sales are based upon this.  This will niether help or make money for Capcom, DMC 4 will sell the same if not less copies than the last entrances in the series, and they owe an explanation for why they would do this.  This is not actually GOOD for the gaming economy because each system needs exclusives, imagine if ps3 got halo 3, there would be no point in buying an xbox 360.  And all you "but it has teh gear of warzzzz" shut up because xbox360 would not have existed had halo series not sold so well on regular xbox.  This will prove to be worse for gaming that better.escaflowne36
ok you are right.  sony execs dont seem to smart so perhaps they cant figgure it out.  i'll do it as a public service for capcom so they can keep working on read rising 2 without wasting time.

"dear sony,

you over promised and under delivered.  as a result your system is percieved to be sucking because of the standards and expectations you set for it.  in addition you over price it and tell people to get a second job.  with a second job they wouldn't have time to use it.  as a result it's not selling,  it's floppage of biblical preportions. 

people dont buy games for systems they dont own.  we are a game maker,  thats how we earn our living,  how we pay our bills, we sell games.  we must sell games,  and the more the better.  as a result we are forced to move to the system that is selling so people will buy our games for it.

sincearly,

capcom"

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#100 buuzer0
Member since 2005 • 3792 Posts
:lol: Topic creator... please... you are too much. My sides are hurting from laughing. Most ridiculous post in system wars EVER. [QUOTE="Gaming-Module"]Believe it or not, just because the PS2 has the largest installed base, doesn't actually mean that Sony fanboys outnumber everyone else. Despite the flag you wave, you are a minority in the grand scheme of things and no one caters to you. That's basically what this all boils down to. Apology denied.

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