Chance of Banjo flopping?

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#1 xLoNesCoPe
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Hey guys,

Not meaning to start a war here, but I figured this would be the best place to put it so I don't get completely biased opinions.

I am considering preordering Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts because of not only its $40 price tag but also because you get the original Banjo Kazooie if you preorder. Now, I am not one for preordering games because I like to read a few reviews before making my purchases. The only game I've ever preordered is Halo 3 because I was a huge Halo 2 fan and its chance of flopping was close to zero.

So, before I preorder this game, I ask the community of Gamespot: What is the chance of Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts flopping?

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#2 Ragnarok1051
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If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.
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#3 Nike_Air
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It depends on what you mean by flopping.

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#4 BioShockOwnz
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You can get your $5 back or put it on something else if it "flops". I think it looks awesome, but trying to predict what Gamespot will review a game is very hard.
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#5 blitzkid1
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If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.Ragnarok1051

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

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#6 After_Math
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If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.Ragnarok1051

Wrong. After the demo, a lot of lems including myself weren't that interested in the game. A demo of Banjo will be out before the real game is out, we'll find out than whats the chance of flopping.

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#7 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.blitzkid1

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

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#8 lantus
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I'd say it's definitely worthy of a purchase, Rare's never put anything bad out recently, even though they don't release games too often. But yeah, I'm going to preorder for the bonus of the original game, probably the best use of pre-order incentive I've ever seen.

I'm also thinking this is Microsoft's answer to LittleBigPlanet, although I don't quite see the finess LittleBigPlanet has, I think this game will be incredible.

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#9 spike6566
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it snot going to flop. its a Rare game. they make good games. but then again SK did also, but that is besides the point. This is Rare tehy will make a good game.
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#10 Snowboarder99
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Are you worried this game might flop and you shouldn't get it? Just because a game flops doesn't mean it's bad. Also you can always withdraw your preorder. If you're just asking, then I would say it's nearly impossible to predict
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#11 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.BioShockOwnz

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

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#12 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.blitzkid1

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

Alright, xjet. Lol.

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#13 jg4xchamp
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Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess flopped.

ANY GAME CAN FLOP.
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#14 JakeTD21
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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.BioShockOwnz

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

Alright. Lol.

He isn't a fanboy

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#15 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.JakeTD21

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

Alright. Lol.

He isn't a fanboy

Youre joking right ?

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#16 insanejedi
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Rare has a near perfect track record other than Grabbed By the whatever that was, so chances are slim.
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#17 Gamer556
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If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.Ragnarok1051

Too Human looked like a flop for about 2 years. Without Silicon Knights' name behind, that game wouldn't have gotten an ounce of hype.

On topic however, I don't see Banjo flopping. It still has that classic Rare charm, and the vehicle customization looks like a compelling addition. At the very least it will be a very good game and a nice spin on the platforming genre, and for $40 who doesn't want that?

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#18 jg4xchamp
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oh wait you mean like a real flop, and not the SW flop

I don't think so

Rare hasn't made an outright piece of garbage since grabbed by the ghoulies,

PDZ was good(AA on metacritic)
Kameo was good(AA as well)
Viva Pinata was good(AA as well)

And Both Banjo Kazooie Nuts and bolts and VIva Pinata Trouble in Paradise look good as well.
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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.blitzkid1

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

Alright. Lol.

He isn't a fanboy

Youre joking right ?

He owns all consoles.

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Youre joking right ?blitzkid1

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

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#22 GundamGuy0
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If it flops it'll still be a good game. It won't flop and get below a 6... unless rare really killed it...
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#23 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.blitzkid1

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

You called Bioshock a fanboy? :lol:

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#24 lantus
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.JakeTD21

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I dont have to argue with you, 1up, G4, Gamespot, and Ign, etc, have reviewed the game and showed the flaws in them, im not going to listen to a fanboy.

Alright. Lol.

He isn't a fanboy

Dude.

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#25 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]If Too Human can flop, than any game is open for flopping.BioShockOwnz

Except too human got destroyed because of it hideous flaws, Banjo doesnt look like itll get a 5.5.

I'm dying to know these hideous flaws. Because I own the game, and I don't see 'em.

I own the game. yet to play it. but from the demo, i think the most hideous of flaws is how much i own at it

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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Youre joking right ?BioShockOwnz

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

Why do you have to defend it? Can't it stand on it's own merits?

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oh wait you mean like a real flop, and not the SW flop

I don't think so

Rare hasn't made an outright piece of garbage since grabbed by the ghoulies,

PDZ was good(AA on metacritic)
Kameo was good(AA as well)
Viva Pinata was good(AA as well)

And Both Banjo Kazooie Nuts and bolts and VIva Pinata Trouble in Paradise look good as well.jg4xchamp

Yeah, I suspect a very minimal chance of floppage outide of system wars, inside, however, the cows will probably cry "flop" if the game gets less than a 9.

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#28 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Youre joking right ?BioShockOwnz

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

Im not saying youre a fanboy based off of Too Human just how youre always defending the 360 even though you have a ps3, i have Gamefly so i could rent Too human anyways.

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#29 Snowboarder99
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Youre joking right ?GundamGuy0

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

Why do you have to defend it? Can't it stand on it's own merits?

Why do people attack it? Don't the reviews speak for themselves? I can play that game too. Game forums are here to discuss, and that is exactly what he is doing

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#30 JakeTD21
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Dude.

lantus

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

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#31 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="lantus"]

Dude.

JakeTD21

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

You must havent seen how he defends the 360 against the ps3 constantly.

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#32 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]oh wait you mean like a real flop, and not the SW flop

I don't think so

Rare hasn't made an outright piece of garbage since grabbed by the ghoulies,

PDZ was good(AA on metacritic)
Kameo was good(AA as well)
Viva Pinata was good(AA as well)

And Both Banjo Kazooie Nuts and bolts and VIva Pinata Trouble in Paradise look good as well.Doctor-Salvador

Yeah, I suspect a very minimal chance of floppage outide of system wars, inside, however, the cows will probably cry "flop" if the game gets less than a 9.

If lemmings hype it a 9 or above and it revieves lower than yeah the cows are justified in their floppage calls.

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#33 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Youre joking right ?blitzkid1

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

Im not saying youre a fanboy based off of Too Human just how youre always defending the 360 even though you have a ps3, i have Gamefly so i could rent Too human anyways.

:| Yet LBP is my most anticipated game. Seriously, just stop, xjet. :|

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#34 blitzkid1
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[QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Youre joking right ?BioShockOwnz

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

Im not saying youre a fanboy based off of Too Human just how youre always defending the 360 even though you have a ps3, i have Gamefly so i could rent Too human anyways.

:| Yet LBP is my most anticipated game. Seriously, just stop, xjet. :|

Thats nice and all, but there are other people iin this thread who agree with me.

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#35 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="Doctor-Salvador"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]oh wait you mean like a real flop, and not the SW flop

I don't think so

Rare hasn't made an outright piece of garbage since grabbed by the ghoulies,

PDZ was good(AA on metacritic)
Kameo was good(AA as well)
Viva Pinata was good(AA as well)

And Both Banjo Kazooie Nuts and bolts and VIva Pinata Trouble in Paradise look good as well.Ragnarok1051

Yeah, I suspect a very minimal chance of floppage outide of system wars, inside, however, the cows will probably cry "flop" if the game gets less than a 9.

If lemmings hype it a 9 or above and it revieves lower than yeah the cows are justified in their floppage calls.

What, so who represent the lemming party? 'Cause im pretty sure some opinion will differ amonst them.

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#36 JakeTD21
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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"][QUOTE="lantus"]

Dude.

blitzkid1

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

You must havent seen how he defends the 360 against the ps3 constantly.

I do see him talking about the 360 more, but its not like he never talks about PS3. Just because he prefers the 360 a little doesn't make him a fanboy

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#37 BioShockOwnz
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Thats nice and all, but there are other people iin this thread who agree with me.

blitzkid1

Thats nice and all, but there are other people in this thread who agree with me, too, xjet. :lol:

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#38 toadster101
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The chances aren't very high...
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#39 Serraph105
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you can assume this game will be incredibly good just dont worry what gamespot ends up saying about it or what people in system wars considers a flop
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#40 Snowboarder99
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Thats nice and all, but there are other people iin this thread who agree with me.

blitzkid1

Your arguments are so compelling:roll: We really need to stop with this "He's a fanboy!" nonsense. If that is the only argument that you can come up with to counter someone elses arguments then that just shows you lost

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#41 ukillwegrill
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="blitzkid1"]Youre joking right ?blitzkid1

Enjoying a game doesn't make you a fanboy, xjet. Neither does defending the game you enjoy. You've done it with Blue Dragon, plus many other games that flopped, so don't try to turn the tables when I defend something.

Im not saying youre a fanboy based off of Too Human just how youre always defending the 360 even though you have a ps3, i have Gamefly so i could rent Too human anyways.

:| Yet LBP is my most anticipated game. Seriously, just stop, xjet. :|

Thats nice and all, but there are other people iin this thread who agree with me.

There's a differnce from DEFENDING, you purchase from real fanboys, and attacking someone elses console of choice.

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#42 Gamer556
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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"][QUOTE="lantus"]

Dude.

blitzkid1

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

You must havent seen how he defends the 360 against the ps3 constantly.

If he owns both, he can say whatever the hell he wants. I've eaten both chocalate and vanilla ice cream in my life, and I like chocolate better. Does that make me some kind a chocolate ice cream fanboy?

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#44 DealRogers
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Im a cow, I loved the first Banjo 10 years ago, hated the second one. Even if I think that the graphics of the new Banjo are very far away from impresive and best looking game of the year and all of that lemming crap, I do believe that the game will be great and very unlikely to flop.
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#45 lantus
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[QUOTE="lantus"]

Dude.

JakeTD21

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

Hold up, wait a second, I thought you were defending blitzkid, my bad.But Bioshock, please don't go and try to make yourself look so righteous, you're just as guilty as all of us for being a fanboy at some point or another.

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#46 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"][QUOTE="lantus"]

Dude.

lantus

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

Hold up, wait a second, I thought you were defending blitzkid, my bad.But Bioshock, please don't go and try to make yourself look so righteous, you're just as guilty as all of us for being a fanboy at some point or another.

:|

Bioshock stated that he has been.

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#47 JakeTD21
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[QUOTE="JakeTD21"][QUOTE="lantus"]

Dude.

lantus

How is he a fanboy? Because he likes Too Human?

Hold up, wait a second, I thought you were defending blitzkid, my bad.But Bioshock, please don't go and try to make yourself look so righteous, you're just as guilty as all of us for being a fanboy at some point or another.

Everyone does it sometimes just for fun haha.

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#48 blitzkid1
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I still stand by what i said , Too Human is a flawed and horrible game, all you have to do is play the demo, its your 60 bucks, 5.5.
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#49 JakeTD21
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I still stand by what i said , Too Human is a flawed and horrible game, all you have to do is play the demo, its your 60 bucks, 5.5.blitzkid1

I agree, but just because bioshock disagrees doesn't make him a fanboy.

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#50 BioShockOwnz
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I still stand by what i said , Too Human is a flawed and horrible game, all you have to do is play the demo, its your 60 bucks, 5.5.blitzkid1

Alright, xjet -- now can we get back to the topic... you know, Banjo? The TC would've probably liked more people to answer his question instead of flinging mud.