Chief Architect of Cell Processor for PS3 says 360 and PS3 are equal!

"At the end of the day, when you put it all together, depending on the software, i think they're pretty equal"

-David Shippy,chief architect and technical leader of the PowerPC microprocessor for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game machines.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-16_105100&RSSid=945812

Cows will say this is a lie, look at Killzone 2, but tell me, you think the 360 can't do something better with the 60M or whatever budget and 4 years of development time?

lets see cows spin this one

in before MGS4 rants, and Cows saying that dude has no idea what he is talking about. ohh cows dont forget to talk about KZ2 aswell.

I dunno but as the saying goes " The proof is in the pudding " so far the pudding seems to be about the same and I'm being kind. :twisted: SecretPolice

is it the same? Historically, the 360 version of multiplatform titles almost always comes out better.

The main (or only) Graphics advantage the Ps3 have over the 360 is the Blueray disc space. loco145

[QUOTE="loco145"]The main (or only) Graphics advantage the Ps3 have over the 360 is the Blueray disc space. navyguy21

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I dunno but as the saying goes " The proof is in the pudding " so far the pudding seems to be about the same and I'm being kind. :twisted: fortehlose

is it the same? Historically, the 360 version of multiplatform titles almost always comes out better.

[QUOTE="loco145"]The main (or only) Graphics advantage the Ps3 have over the 360 is the Blueray disc space. navyguy21

It can sometimes. Remember the N64?

[QUOTE="fortehlose"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I dunno but as the saying goes " The proof is in the pudding " so far the pudding seems to be about the same and I'm being kind. :twisted: Jekken6

is it the same? Historically, the 360 version of multiplatform titles almost always comes out better.

Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.wdave92

this^^

please read the article..

im playing rb6 v on ps3 own it on 360,

and you know what hes not true , the library is missing bits and peices here and there, like next to the bathroom in 360 version upstairs, theres a water fountain, in the ps3 version there isnt,

im sure theres other things removed, i havent tried any other levels,

but rainbow six, graphically is better on 360, also theres exclusive dlc on 360 ,

so saying xbox 360/ps3 are equal, in terms of power, is false, one is better in certain areas of lighting etc where as one is better at processing them and has more draw distances, which gta proves that, on ps3 it looks realistic but it is darker, on 360 its brighter,

Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.wdave92

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="loco145"]The main (or only) Graphics advantage the Ps3 have over the 360 is the Blueray disc space. hakanakumono

It can sometimes. Remember the N64?

[QUOTE="wdave92"]Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.EmperorSupreme

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="loco145"]The main (or only) Graphics advantage the Ps3 have over the 360 is the Blueray disc space. hakanakumono

It can sometimes. Remember the N64?

[QUOTE="wdave92"]Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.EmperorSupreme

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] More space does not mean better graphics!! Why do people still think that??mariokart64fan

It can sometimes. Remember the N64?

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="wdave92"]Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.navyguy21

"At the end of the day, when you put it all together, depending on the software, i think they're pretty equal"

-David Shippy,chief architect and technical leader of the PowerPC microprocessor for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game machines.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-16_105100&RSSid=945812

Cows will say this is a lie, look at Killzone 2, but tell me, you think the 360 can't do something better with the 60M or whatever budget and 4 years of development time?

lets see cows spin this one

fortehlose

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] That would make more sense, especially since I don't see anyone using the 360 processor to build super computers or do clustering, but the Cell you do.EmperorSupreme

Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.wdave92

fixed title thread, thx.

[QUOTE="fortehlose"]

"At the end of the day, when you put it all together, depending on the software, i think they're pretty equal"

-David Shippy,chief architect and technical leader of the PowerPC microprocessor for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game machines.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-16_105100&RSSid=945812

Cows will say this is a lie, look at Killzone 2, but tell me, you think the 360 can't do something better with the 60M or whatever budget and 4 years of development time?

lets see cows spin this one

gamewhat

people like david shippy, the designer of the cpu's of the 360 and ps3 said this

John Carmack, a rocket scientist and founder of Id says the 360 is more powerful.

You've spoken like a true fanboy for insinuating that these opinions are some kind of conspiratorial progaganda machine concocted by microsoft.

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, and the cell used for that IS NOT the same one that is in the PS3loco145

Isn't this already accepted?hakanakumono

no, im pretty sure most PS3 owners like to think the PS3 is more powerful and the cell has alot of untapped power

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"] More space does not mean better graphics!! Why do people still think that??mariokart64fan

It can sometimes. Remember the N64?

What are you talking about? Plenty of games used 3D. Games used 2D backgroups because they could have better graphics than the PS1 could provide. But the PS1 was a 3D machine.

The cartridge severely debilitated the N64. It's considered a miracle that RE2 was able to fit onto a cartridge.

"At the end of the day, when you put it all together, depending on the software, i think they're pretty equal"

-David Shippy,chief architect and technical leader of the PowerPC microprocessor for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game machines.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-16_105100&RSSid=945812

Cows will say this is a lie, look at Killzone 2, but tell me, you think the 360 can't do something better with the 60M or whatever budget and 4 years of development time?

lets see cows spin this one

fortehlose

Who ever said Blu-ray makes better graphics is dead wrong. Blu-Ray is a storage medium. The benifits of this are being able to make games bigger and not require multiple discs. yes it is alot more advanced than dvd but no it dosent make the graphics any better. The reason the PS3 can PWN the 360 is its ability to render more on screen objects at a higher native resolution.djsifer01

It means they can both produce the same graphics, but the PS3 could make a longer game with the same graphics.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I dunno but as the saying goes " The proof is in the pudding " so far the pudding seems to be about the same and I'm being kind. :twisted: fortehlose

is it the same? Historically, the 360 version of multiplatform titles almost always comes out better.

Killzone 2 + Heavy Rain + Uncharted 2 + Gran Turismo 5/GT5:P say otherwise.

P.S

Killzone 2 = 4-5 years of dev

Too Human = 10 years of dev

/thread

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="wdave92"]Re-read the article. Its say's the consoles are equal, not the CPU itself.navyguy21

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I dunno but as the saying goes " The proof is in the pudding " so far the pudding seems to be about the same and I'm being kind. :twisted: fortehlose

is it the same? Historically, the 360 version of multiplatform titles almost always comes out better.

maybe thats cuz the 360 is easier to work with

Killzone 2 + Heavy Rain + Uncharted 2 + Gran Turismo 5/GT5:P say otherwise.

P.S

Killzone 2 = 4-5 years of dev

Too Human = 10 years of dev

/thread

urdead18

but Kz2 was worked on one console for 4-5 years, while too human was multiple consoles that spanned 10 years

Killzone 2 + Heavy Rain + Uncharted 2 + Gran Turismo 5/GT5:P say otherwise.

P.S

Killzone 2 = 4-5 years of dev

Too Human = 10 years of dev

/thread

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"] That would make more sense, especially since I don't see anyone using the 360 processor to build super computers or do clustering, but the Cell you do.djsifer01

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] lol, and the cell used for that IS NOT the same one that is in the PS3Steppy_76

i think his facts are screwed up

[QUOTE="fortehlose"]

"At the end of the day, when you put it all together, depending on the software, i think they're pretty equal"

-David Shippy,chief architect and technical leader of the PowerPC microprocessor for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game machines.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-16_105100&RSSid=945812

Cows will say this is a lie, look at Killzone 2, but tell me, you think the 360 can't do something better with the 60M or whatever budget and 4 years of development time?

lets see cows spin this one

djsifer01

[QUOTE="Steppy_76"][QUOTE="djsifer01"]Sorry navyguy but your wrong. The same cell thats in the PS3 is being used in HDTVs and also Medical equipment. They also combined 6 PS3s together and it was stronger than any super computer they put it up against. Man you just wont admit or say anything nice about PS3. Id say your 600% lemmings with a twist. So i thought i didnt have a 360, weird i havent heard a word since you saw the pics. Told you foot would be inserted to mouth.ps3_owns_360Wii

i think his facts are screwed up

[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="fortehlose"]

"At the end of the day, when you put it all together, depending on the software, i think they're pretty equal"

-David Shippy,chief architect and technical leader of the PowerPC microprocessor for the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game machines.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/945/945812p1.html?RSSwhen2009-01-16_105100&RSSid=945812

Cows will say this is a lie, look at Killzone 2, but tell me, you think the 360 can't do something better with the 60M or whatever budget and 4 years of development time?

lets see cows spin this one

Steppy_76

the cell doesnt have 256mb per spe either, that would be alot of ram. both systems have 512 mb but its just disturbed differently

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]Links? Also, the Cell is a chip architecture, not just a singular chip. Those cells going in other devices than the PS3 have varying amounts of SPEs and PPEs. They also couldn't have put that 6 PS3 array against very many "super computers", as there are many that would KILL it(there is a supercomputer with something like 10,000 cell chips in it....do you think a 6 PS3 array would be stronger than it?).Steppy_76

i think his facts are screwed up

why cant we just determined which system is stronger by the graphics they produce?

alot of users dont even know what they are talking about when it comes to console hardware:?