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#51 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]well im not geting it, I shelled out the 60 bux american and such for the game and then i paid 20 for the players guide when it first came out, and then i paid the money for the ps1 remake, Im not gonna purchase another when its not even gonna contain the cut scenes from the ps1 version, and all im geting is a new dungeon.
Dreams-Visions

then don't!

there are others who HAVEN'T bought the damn game 2 times before. For THOSE people, this is a great opportunity.

Last i checked i was allowed an opinion, as for that if you haven't picked it up by now after 2 releases and or emulated it, then you never wanted to play it in the first place, and most young kids are not gonna appreciate it compard to the flashy graphics of today.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]well im not geting it, I shelled out the 60 bux american and such for the game and then i paid 20 for the players guide when it first came out, and then i paid the money for the ps1 remake, Im not gonna purchase another when its not even gonna contain the cut scenes from the ps1 version, and all im geting is a new dungeon.
Dreams-Visions

then don't!

there are others who HAVEN'T bought the damn game 2 times before. For THOSE people, this is a great opportunity.

I'm just peeved that every time those people spend $40 on a 15 year old game because there isn't a better option, it only encourages Square to continue that practice, and discourages them from both lowering the prices on their old games and producing new original games.

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#53 MrGrimFandango
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So they left the greatest video game made untouched, I agree with their decision.
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#54 vicmackey39
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There doesn't seem to be any evidence that they are going back and doing the visuals at all...

I would have preferred a hi-res smoother 2d game akin to FF1/2 on the PSP rather than a 3D remake, but it seems we aren't getting either.

Articuno76

IT IS AN ENHANCED PORT LIKE VP LENNETH AND FF TACTICS

I am more than happy with it because

  1. I live in Europe and we never got the original here
  2. The SNES version has much higher prices on ebay
  3. The PS1 version is broken
  4. It is evidence that SE is acknowledging the existence of Chrono Trigger which is a good sign for the future
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#55 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]well im not geting it, I shelled out the 60 bux american and such for the game and then i paid 20 for the players guide when it first came out, and then i paid the money for the ps1 remake, Im not gonna purchase another when its not even gonna contain the cut scenes from the ps1 version, and all im geting is a new dungeon.
sonicmj1

then don't!

there are others who HAVEN'T bought the damn game 2 times before. For THOSE people, this is a great opportunity.

I'm just peeved that every time those people spend $40 on a 15 year old game because there isn't a better option, it only encourages Square to continue that practice, and discourages them from both lowering the prices on their old games and producing new original games.

which is why i wont get the game, I purchase the original when it was launched, and i purchase the ps1 version when it launched cause it had all the cool anime fmv's intros, middle parts and endings all in glorious FMV. but this only has a single new dungeon so...no.

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#56 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="sonicmj1"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]well im not geting it, I shelled out the 60 bux american and such for the game and then i paid 20 for the players guide when it first came out, and then i paid the money for the ps1 remake, Im not gonna purchase another when its not even gonna contain the cut scenes from the ps1 version, and all im geting is a new dungeon.
WilliamRLBaker

then don't!

there are others who HAVEN'T bought the damn game 2 times before. For THOSE people, this is a great opportunity.

I'm just peeved that every time those people spend $40 on a 15 year old game because there isn't a better option, it only encourages Square to continue that practice, and discourages them from both lowering the prices on their old games and producing new original games.

which is why i wont get the game, I purchase the original when it was launched, and i purchase the ps1 version when it launched cause it had all the cool anime fmv's intros, middle parts and endings all in glorious FMV. but this only has a single new dungeon so...no.

well that's cool. but don't rain on everyone else's parade or act like something is wrong because YOU don't want to buy it.

Newsflash: most people have not played this game 3 times over. Most people have never played the game at all.

For all of those people, it will be a blast. Instead of hating about YOU not getting something extra, you can encourage the people who've never enjoyed it before that they'll have a blast.

I know it would require you to actually think about someone OTHER than yourself...but you can do it.

you really can.

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#57 voxware00
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i beat the game though the only ending i got was w/o chrono

i tried going back to get the others but i just sucked

i'd play it again, especially if it had some sort of wireless co op

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#58 vicmackey39
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Another thing to note is that Tokita (director of Chrono Trigger) is working on a new IP for either the PSP or DS which me and dreams have already discussed

I don't know about you guys but I would rather have him working on a new game then making incremental improvements to an already fantastic game. A outsourced quick port with a bit of extra content is perfectly fine in this case

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#59 JLF1
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Another thing to note is that Tokita (director of Chrono Trigger) is working on a new IP for either the PSP or DS which me and dreams have already discussed

I don't know about you guys but I would rather have him working on a new game then making incremental improvements to an already fantastic game. A outsourced quick port with a bit of extra content is perfectly fine in this case

vicmackey39

Agreed.

I would rather have S-E develop a new game on the DS or PSP and just port this game on the DS. I would rather have CT untouched as I never got to play the original on the SNES because it was never released in Europe.
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#60 Wanderer5
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I was hoping for a 3D remake of this game. But oh well even if it just a port, I haven't play the game before, so I going to get this game.
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#61 foxhound_fox
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*sigh*

Not only do they remake all the games that have been rehashed a hundred times... now they are remaking the really good games instead of giving us sequels. Great, a Chrono Trigger re-release on the DS. I would have preferred it on the Wii VC so I could play it on a television like the SNES days and a sequel to go along side it... not this "remastered" crap.
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#62 sonicmj1
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I don't know about you guys but I would rather have him working on a new game then making incremental improvements to an already fantastic game. A outsourced quick port with a bit of extra content is perfectly fine in this case

vicmackey39

If it's an outsourced quick port, why is it going for $5 more than the average brand new DS game?

I have nothing against the concept of a Chrono Trigger port (because, as others have said, plenty of people haven't played the game yet), but I have something against the full retail pricing. It should be $25 at most.

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#63 vicmackey39
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If it's an outsourced quick port, why is it going for $5 more than the average brand new DS game?

sonicmj1

Because Squareenix is an unscrupulous company that rips off all its customers. This isn't new, they do it with all their DS games

I have nothing against the concept of a Chrono Trigger port (because, as others have said, plenty of people haven't played the game yet), but I have something against the full retail pricing. It should be $25 at most.

sonicmj1

Can't argue with that

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[QUOTE="superjim42"]2D? how lame! they went to the effort remaking some final fantasy games in 3D but dont give chrono trigger the same treatment?? its kind of wierd seeing as how chrono trigger is probably better than the majority of the final fantasy games! :| JLF1

Why are you sad about that? Both FFIII and FFIV on the DS look like crap. If they should do a 3D game they should do it on a console that can produce great 3D graphics and the DS can not.

I would rather have this masterpiece saved from S-E clumsy hands.

QFFT! I hated the 3-D presentation of FF3 and FFIV looks the same. Definitely rather have it on console if they want a real 3-D remake, it's just too blocky, etc. While the 2-D adds so much detail, etc. Especially on the DS.

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#65 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

I don't know about you guys but I would rather have him working on a new game then making incremental improvements to an already fantastic game. A outsourced quick port with a bit of extra content is perfectly fine in this case

sonicmj1

If it's an outsourced quick port, why is it going for $5 more than the average brand new DS game?

I have nothing against the concept of a Chrono Trigger port (because, as others have said, plenty of people haven't played the game yet), but I have something against the full retail pricing. It should be $25 at most.

Maybe you are right... Maybe not. I think a game like Chrono Trigger (the truly God of RPGs) desrves to be sold at full price.

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[QUOTE="superjim42"]2D? how lame! they went to the effort remaking some final fantasy games in 3D but dont give chrono trigger the same treatment?? its kind of wierd seeing as how chrono trigger is probably better than the majority of the final fantasy games! :| JLF1

Why are you sad about that? Both FFIII and FFIV on the DS look like crap. If they should do a 3D game they should do it on a console that can produce great 3D graphics and the DS can not.

I would rather have this masterpiece saved from S-E clumsy hands.

I call bull on this. You've obviously never played phantom hourglass or metroid prime hunters.
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#67 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="superjim42"]2D? how lame! they went to the effort remaking some final fantasy games in 3D but dont give chrono trigger the same treatment?? its kind of wierd seeing as how chrono trigger is probably better than the majority of the final fantasy games! :| Shinobishyguy

Why are you sad about that? Both FFIII and FFIV on the DS look like crap. If they should do a 3D game they should do it on a console that can produce great 3D graphics and the DS can not.

I would rather have this masterpiece saved from S-E clumsy hands.

I call bull on this. You've obviously never played phantom hourglass or metroid prime hunters.

Never played the game :|

And there is a huge artistic difference between FFIII and L: PH.

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#68 Blackbond
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STOP! STOP! STOP! WITH THE REMAKES AND PORTS ALREADY!!!

Is it really that hard to um make a sequel?

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#69 SaintBlaze
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Still buying it. :)
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#70 Jakendo
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I think it would do better in 2D.
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#71 samusarmada
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STOP! STOP! STOP! WITH THE REMAKES AND PORTS ALREADY!!!

Is it really that hard to um make a sequel?

Blackbond

Well with the recent Square-Enix "no risky games" announcement they may be using the remake as a way of testing the water to see if the franchise is still proftable.

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A lot of people are going to be playing Chrono Trigger for the first time on the DS... So i don't want them to get an altered 3-D version that could possibly be screwed up and would give them a bad impression of the game. I just hope the polish up the 2d graphics, makes the music sound nicer, and let us play the game. Let the people who were too young or misses it play a fantastic classic.

And for everyone saying "I already have the game on my comp for free!": Shame on you :)

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#73 WAIW
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Still going to buy it. If this sells well, who knows, they might be prepared to make/release a sequel. Newer gamers like me never got the chance to play it, I'm happy square's doing this :|
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#74 vicmackey39
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STOP! STOP! STOP! WITH THE REMAKES AND PORTS ALREADY!!!

Is it really that hard to um make a sequel?

Blackbond

As i've pointed out numerous times Tokita is working on a new IP and the very fact that SE has acknowledged the existence o0f Chrono Trigger is the most exciting thing to happen in years

if you dont want the port dont buy it

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#75 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

STOP! STOP! STOP! WITH THE REMAKES AND PORTS ALREADY!!!

Is it really that hard to um make a sequel?

vicmackey39

As i've pointed out numerous times Tokita is working on a new IP and the very fact that SE has acknowledged the existence o0f Chrono Trigger is the most exciting thing to happen in years

if you dont want the port dont buy it

Why would I buy it? I played this game some what 13 years ago. But for all those who do buy they are only reinforcing and encouraging the practice that SE is doing right now.

People like me lose either way.

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#76 JLF1
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

STOP! STOP! STOP! WITH THE REMAKES AND PORTS ALREADY!!!

Is it really that hard to um make a sequel?

Blackbond

As i've pointed out numerous times Tokita is working on a new IP and the very fact that SE has acknowledged the existence o0f Chrono Trigger is the most exciting thing to happen in years

if you dont want the port dont buy it

Why would I buy it? I played this game some what 13 years ago. But for all those who do buy they are only reinforcing and encouraging the practice that SE is doing right now.

People like me lose either way.


This game is a little special from all the other FF ports from S-E.

This is going to be the only way I get to play the game were I live legally if I don't want to import a US PS1 or US SNES and a CT on the SNES isn't exactly cheap today. Even if this game will be $40 on the DS and I have to import it from USA it would still be cheaper then all the other ways.
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#77 vicmackey39
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Why would I buy it? I played this game some what 13 years ago. But for all those who do buy they are only reinforcing and encouraging the practice that SE is doing right now.

Blackbond

what practice?

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This game is a little special from all the other FF ports from S-E.

This is going to be the only way I get to play the game were I live legally if I don't want to import a US PS1 or US SNES and a CT on the SNES isn't exactly cheap today. Even if this game will be $40 on the DS and I have to import it from USA it would still be cheaper then all the other ways.JLF1

You wouldn't rather have a Virtual Console release? I don't like the idea of the game being on the DS for the fact it's on the DS. CT is a console game meant to be played on a television. I just want a VC release so I, like everyone else who owns a SNES and no CT cart, can play it again without having to get a cart or play it on a tiny screen.
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#79 Silenthps
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To all those saying it should be 2d cause it would look ugly in 3d...

DS is about as powerful as an N64 right?

and an N64 is more powerful than a PSX right?

So if chrono cross can look gorgeous on a PSX

Why cant they redo CT with CC quality graphics?

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#80 JLF1
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To all those saying it should be 2d cause it would look ugly in 3d...

DS is about as powerful as an N64 right?

and an N64 is more powerful than a PSX right?

So if chrono cross can look gorgeous on a PSX

Why cant they redo CT with CC quality graphics?

Silenthps

Why even do a 3D remake on a system that only has N64 graphics?

2D looks great compared to that. 3D isn't everthing.
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#81 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"]This game is a little special from all the other FF ports from S-E.

This is going to be the only way I get to play the game were I live legally if I don't want to import a US PS1 or US SNES and a CT on the SNES isn't exactly cheap today. Even if this game will be $40 on the DS and I have to import it from USA it would still be cheaper then all the other ways.foxhound_fox

You wouldn't rather have a Virtual Console release? I don't like the idea of the game being on the DS for the fact it's on the DS. CT is a console game meant to be played on a television. I just want a VC release so I, like everyone else who owns a SNES and no CT cart, can play it again without having to get a cart or play it on a tiny screen.


Yes I would rather have a cheaper release on the VC but that's not going to happen. This is the cheapest and easiest way for me to play the game legally.
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#82 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

To all those saying it should be 2d cause it would look ugly in 3d...

DS is about as powerful as an N64 right?

and an N64 is more powerful than a PSX right?

So if chrono cross can look gorgeous on a PSX

Why cant they redo CT with CC quality graphics?

JLF1


Why even do a 3D remake on a system that only has N64 graphics?

.
2D looks great compared to that. 3D isn't everthing.

despite that fact that they aren't on par with the psp...the ds can still out put some decent 3d vsuals.

They could've easily made Chrono tyrigger look as good as Dragon quest IX for the ds.

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#83 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

To all those saying it should be 2d cause it would look ugly in 3d...

DS is about as powerful as an N64 right?

and an N64 is more powerful than a PSX right?

So if chrono cross can look gorgeous on a PSX

Why cant they redo CT with CC quality graphics?

JLF1

Why even do a 3D remake on a system that only has N64 graphics?

2D looks great compared to that. 3D isn't everthing.

To give people who already played the game something new? So the 40$ they're spending on the game would actually be worth it. And it doesn't have to be full 3d. Like i said, they can do it like chrono cross which is basically a 3d game with 2d prerendered backgrounds. It could end up looking something like Ninja Gaiden DS which looks pretty awsome for a ds game.
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despite that fact that they aren't on par with the psp...the ds can still out put some decent 3d vsuals.

They could've easily made Chrono tyrigger look as good as Dragon quest IX for the ds.

Shinobishyguy

But it wouldn't be this:





Oh Squeenix... why did you have to C&D this project! :cry:
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="superjim42"]2D? how lame! they went to the effort remaking some final fantasy games in 3D but dont give chrono trigger the same treatment?? its kind of wierd seeing as how chrono trigger is probably better than the majority of the final fantasy games! :| falconzss


Why are you sad about that? Both FFIII and FFIV on the DS look like crap. If they should do a 3D game they should do it on a console that can produce great 3D graphics and the DS can not.

I would rather have this masterpiece saved from S-E clumsy hands.

i hoped they would do it for home consoles in the first place. why are all the remakes for handhelds?

SNES remakes on handehelds is like printing money for these companies, takes just a handful of people and they usually sell well. After all, handhelds have the largest install base I believe.

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#86 lantus
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If it's priced accordingly, then I'll pick it up still. I'm not paying $35- 40 bucks for a SNES port.
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#87 ViolentPressure
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If it's priced accordingly, then I'll pick it up still. I'm not paying $35- 40 bucks for a SNES port.lantus

Serioulsy, no wonder the DS is pirated out the *** at those prices for what you get.

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#88 JLF1
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despite that fact that they aren't on par with the psp...the ds can still out put some decent 3d vsuals.

They could've easily made Chrono tyrigger look as good as Dragon quest IX for the ds.

Shinobishyguy

The problem is that it would not be CT then. Was Twin Snakes on GC really that much better than MGS1? Another problem is that the 3D engine S-E uses on the DS makes every character look like 10 year olds. I'm not saying that a 3 remake of the game should never exist but if they did it S-E should do it on a console that can produce good looking 3D graphics.

This is a game called Legend Of Mana on the PS1. This is the kind of 2D S-E ones was able to produce. The DS is powerful enough to have this kind of 2D graphics.




Compared to FFIII on the DS which IMO look bad. Impressive for the DS but still bad.




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#89 juno84
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despite that fact that they aren't on par with the psp...the ds can still out put some decent 3d vsuals.

They could've easily made Chrono tyrigger look as good as Dragon quest IX for the ds.

Shinobishyguy

The graphics aren't bad, but if square is continuing rereleases/remakes on handhelds, I really hope if they do a ff6 remake in 3d and on PSP. The DS doesn't really lend itself that well to single screen remakes. Unfortunately. I predict FF5 will get ported to PSP, and FF6 will get remade for DS.

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#90 Silenthps
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But it wouldn't be this:

Oh Squeenix... why did you have to C&D this project! :cry:foxhound_fox

But it could look like this!

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and have cut scenes like this!

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edit: it would also look much more clean on the ds since the screen would be smaller and its more powerful

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#91 Lionheart08
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If it's priced accordingly, then I'll pick it up still. I'm not paying $35- 40 bucks for a SNES port.lantus

It should be priced at $30 like Mario 64 DS. But then again, since it's Square Enix, it'll probably be $40 since that seems to be the base price for all they're DS games.

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#92 foxhound_fox
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But it could look like this!

and have cut scenes like this!

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Silenthps

Then I guess it's good I found a factory sealed copy of Chrono Cross (still with its "new-game smell" ^_^) for $25. I am still at odds to what I want to play after I finish Persona 3. Odin Sphere would be great but it's been at least 7 years since I last played CC and it was only for about 10 hours.

edit: it would also look much more clean on the ds since the screen would be smaller and its more powerful Silenthps

Now that I disagree with. The DS isn't the system a game like Chrono Trigger or Cross should be on. Those are games that are meant to be played at home. 50 hour long JRPG's aren't meant to be played "on-the-go" on a tiny screen (DS or PSP).
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#93 JLF1
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
But it wouldn't be this:

Oh Squeenix... why did you have to C&D this project! :cry:Silenthps

But it could look like this!



and have cut scenes like this!


edit: it would also look much more clean on the ds since the screen would be smaller and its more powerful


I would love if it looked like that on the DS but how big of a chance do you think it is that S-E actually make it look like that?
They would probably only use the same engine as every of their DS games have.
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#94 foxhound_fox
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I would love if it looked like that on the DS but how big of a chance do you think it is that S-E actually make it look like that?
They would probably only use the same engine as every of their DS games have.JLF1

I wouldn't want that on the DS, I'd want that on one of the new consoles or what it was being made for... PC.
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2D? how lame! they went to the effort remaking some final fantasy games in 3D but dont give chrono trigger the same treatment?? its kind of wierd seeing as how chrono trigger is probably better than the majority of the final fantasy games! :| superjim42

I'm glad they keep the game in 2D, I love it the way it is and wouldn't like it to be ruined with crappy 3D graphics.

Let's keep it simple, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.

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#96 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
But it wouldn't be this:

Oh Squeenix... why did you have to C&D this project! :cry:JLF1

But it could look like this!



and have cut scenes like this!


edit: it would also look much more clean on the ds since the screen would be smaller and its more powerful


I would love if it looked like that on the DS but how big of a chance do you think it is that S-E actually make it look like that?
They would probably only use the same engine as every of their DS games have.

It's S-E, so im guessing... No chance :cry:
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#97 Dahaka-UK
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CT fans have been wanting a remake or a sequel to CT all this time, and what do SE give them, a port of the SNES version... but on a smaller screen. :| Sad. Either way I'll get this game, lets just hope they don't butcher the soundtrack like all the previous FF ports.
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#98 beast667
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I was hoping for 3D-ish like pokemonEuroMafia
That would be cool.

2D is better than a full 3D remake, at least on the DS.

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#99 RK-Mara
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Bohoo, what's wrong with 2D?
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#100 Jg_heaven
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Wasn't playing the SNES back then, but I love my DS and RPG's so I'll definately pick this up whether there's new content or not. I have heard nothing but good things about Chrono Trigger.