Clearing up the "No Games Myth" for 2015

First off... i am going to state that the PC is out of this discussion. For all intents and purposes it wins everything. I am very much enjoying my Summer Steam Sale purchases (when I play between witcher 3 sessions).

That being said, this thread is about the Myth of Ps4 having no exclusives and Xbox one having tons that Lemmings have tried to shove down everyone's throat for the last few months (especially after NPD came out in MAY).

After news of quantum break and a few others pushed back to 2016.... lets look at the reality.

A few things first:

- Only games listed are not on the other CONSOLE. AND only for 2015

- Doesn't matter if you think the game sucks or will suck, it's still a game so it gets listed. I know some people on this board like to shift goal posts and remove entire genres (Jrpgs, Adventure games etc...)

- If the game is already on PC or will be...doesn't matter. This discussion is not about PC... as PC always wins regardless...it's a given, and If you don't beleive it your in denial....end of story.

AAA == Big Budget Game (not system wars scoring)

2015:

Xbox One AAA exclusives:
1. Halo 5
2. Fable Legends
3. Forza 6

Timed exclusive:
1. Rise of tomb raider

Larger Indie / Mid teir:
1. Ori and blind forest
2. State of Decay: Year One Edition
3. Screamride

Possible 2015:
Scalebound

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PS4 AAA exclusives:
1. Bloodborne
2. The Order
3. MLB 15 The show
4. Dragon Quest Heroes
5. Tearaway Unfolded
6. Until Dawn
7. Disgaea 5
8. Persona 5
9. Tales of Zestria
10. Nathan Drake Collection
11. Samauri Warriors 4-2
12. Tropico 5

Larger Indies / Mid teir games:
1. Tommorow Children
2. No Mans Sky
3. Grim Fandango
4. Hotline Miami 2
5. Oli Oli 2
6. Hell Divers
7. Hyper Light Drifter
8. Axium Verge
9. Hyper Light Drifter
10. Soma
11. Broforce
12. Super time force ultra
13. N++
14. Galak-Z
15. Bastion
16. Planetside 2
17. Everybodys gone to the rapture

Possible 2015:
1. Rime
2. Hellblade

This is what I know about ... if you have other games (not simple mobile phone type games either) than please mention them.

The myth is wrong... This doesn't even count multiplatform console games that people can play, as there are tons..

"Console exclusive" isn't exclusive, so you need to edit those lists

Ah so if you invent new meanings for "AAA" and "Exclusive" then PS4 wins. Cool.

Takes me back to the PS3 days, the Last Guardian was proof of PS3 winning SO MANY YEARS :P

No shit

Have to be honest this made me laugh

August 2015. There was a release date trailer yesterday.

That PS4 list is padded with so many shit games, I'm not sure if this is meant to be satire.

I'd say the two consoles are on pretty even footing this year.

It would win even with out nathon drake colleciton..or tropico 5... The order is only on ps4 so don't know why you quoted that. In any rate my whole point was to put down the repeated myth of "no exclusives" that i have been hearing for the last few months from the lemming group. It's about games that are not on the other console.. Most people own only one console so it is worth discussing.

see this is the shit I am talking about. What may be shit to you is not for someone else. Stop trying to move goal posts... a game is a game.. This isn't about reviews.

you should probably clarify what you mean by AAA

Let lems live in their 2006 bubble, it's the only way they can deal with how this gen has turned out so far.

Wait Hotline Miami is not on the xbox?

Well that sucks

oh wow XBONER sucks.

@Midnightshade29: Most of the PS4 games you listed either are nitche, indy, or have already flopped.

Plus, people are talking about "the rest of 2015".

lol... Had to. Otherwise it would be a PC has this and that and wins.... which we already know.

It's a given and not disputed (or at least shoudn't be) Thread is about a myth common on system wars.

The Order is shit and not AAA. I suppose you are using AAA in a budget sense but what kind of gamer gives a shit about that?

You can't put down "no exclusives" by listing shit and multiplats. Even if we accept "PC doesn't exist" (I don't) you can't redefine reality by claiming freaking Xbox 360 and PS3 games count as PS4 exclusives.

PS4 has a great year but most of it's good games ARE multiplat and many of it's exclusives ARE shit.

Really, the only thing that truly bugs me about Lemmings and the List Wars this year is that they just match announced games with assumptions.

Like, Gears of War 4, Quantum Break, Project Derpy Doo, Unannounced Rare Game Code Name Reba McIntyre, Squibbedy Shoop Doo Wop New Studio Title 1, and Halo 17 were supposed to be 2015 releases since December and now they just roll that shit back when the obvious writing on the wall becomes the obvious writing on the wall.

The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy Versus and Agent were padding PS3 lists for like a decade man :P

If you're happy playing crap, more power to you.

Oh sweet irony

- Wants to talk about exclusives

- lists multiplats to tad out list

Ok

Here's your list- Do please note, it's almost certain that DQ Heroes will end up on pc

People actually get annoyed by what fanboy nonsense a fanboy faction spouts.

Well with over 350+ games to play for each X1 and Ps4 I'm in no shortage of games to play. Actually my PC was getting dusty and I needed to use compressed air to clean it out from lack of play.

Now if I only had a WiiU, that would be another story

True that. I just haven't seen anyone add those games to the list wars this year, but there may be some tit-for-tat going on with that I guess.

Wasn't just about that. You decided categories, that some games counted, others didn't, that games, no matter how poor, were equal etc.

You can't put up your set of "goalposts" and then get mad when people don't want to use them

Fable Legends is multiplat as well (coming to PC)

Nice thread.

If the system is only good when we pretend a perfectly viable gaming platform doesn't exist, then said system is not very good.

LOL so many multiplats on the PS4 list.

Cows are mighty desperate these days

Your argument isn't focused and makes you reach for straws to make PS4 look better than Xbone here.

It's true lems are FOS saying PS4 has not games for fall or 2015 in general compared to xbone. The problem comes in when you try to slide the word "exclusive" in to go along with your narration.

Functional Playstation branded exclusives still out number xbox this fall but when you try to extend that to cross PC/console games you lose the exclusive argument all together.

For example, a game like Persona 5 is a functional playstation exclusive but No Mans Sky is not.

What you should be arguing is actual lineup of games available for each system compared to the other. The Overall lineup argument was the biggest card lems played by the end of the last generation, you should simply remind them of that.

They don't have many 1st party games being put out this year. But 2016 is lookin' good though.

The PS4 does have more retail games than the Xbone overall.

The PS4 does have more indie games than the Xbone overall.

The PS4 has about 100 more games than Xbone overall.

I own all the machines, but having more games for consumers is a good thing. What is surprising to me? That the Xbone and PS4 have a very similar architecture and both machines launched within a week of each other in November 2013.

Somehow the PS4 has about 100 more games (more AAA retail games AND more indie)? How they hell did M$ let the PS4 get more AAA Retail games? How the hell did M$ let the PS4 get more indie games? Part of the problem was M$ stupid last gen policies that helped the 360 dominate like the parity clause, but when you make a new machine, everything is reset. All of the sudden, companies don't have to deal with antiquated last gen policies like the parity clause and of course, those companies didn't. They went elsewhere.

Still, the situation still blows my mind and it's certainly one of the reasons the PS4's sales are much higher. People go where games go, as we saw with the 360, PS2, etc. It's a no-brainer. I never imagined there would be a 3rd party deficit this huge (and growing) between the two machines libraries.

you listed a lot of multi plats there bro. ppl dont recognize company exclusives .

i think lems biggest flaw in their arguments is that they are basing 2015 based off 3 months while ps4 has games releasing outside of those 3 months. Apparently it counts as not having any games.

let them spin it, its not like they had a AAA exclusive release since sunset overdrive unless they are trying to brag about forza horizon 2 and halo mcc (multi plat releases that dont count imo)

Out of all those PS4 games I will be purchasing maybe Dragon Quest Heroes? The xbox one list I will be purchasing Halo 5, Forza 6, Fable Legends, and Rise of tomb raider.

Looks like the PS4 just doesn't have the games I want to play.

sounds like you dont know what an exclusive is.

Sucks pretty bad to be a PS4 owner right now quite frankly.

That's a cute opinion you have there. We'll be here when you get back to reality.

I would rather three great games than a plethora of shitty ones. Quality over Quantity, bitches.

That padding mate, its not healthy.

>TC says this is about exclusives

>Lists a crapton of multiplats

Okaaaaay buddy.

Oh the irony. lol

The PlayStation 4 library for the remainder of the year is filled with a bunch of padding and bullshit no one cares about. The whole "the PlayStation 4 has no games" thing isn't about the actual number of games, it's about the number of games no one gives a **** about which is nearly all of them.

I have more games now than I can possibly play. Goodness gracious.

QUICK GUYS, NyaDC knows exactly what people care about...please dude just stop, I bet you backed up SSOD and that failed hard.

Someone is very bothered by what he reads on the internet.

So many multiplats on the PS4 and not sure TC even knows what AAA is. Just because it isn't an indie game doesn't mean it's a big budget AAA lol.

Even cuter not knowing how to use the term irony correctly lol.

Back in your bubble, lem.

Yeah, I think I can clear up the 'no games for 2015' confusion.

On PS4 I have played Infamous Second Son and it was excellent. Also TLOU, Tomb Raider Definitive which was amazing (Uncharted could be in trouble with rejuvenated TR IMO) and Dragon Age Inquisition (yes I know it's multiplat) and a few other multiplats too which I loved.

On Xbox One I played Halo MCC, loved all the campaigns I mean really loved them and can't wait for Halo 5. I will admit that is my sole reason for owning an X1 but there you go.

On PC I have played Pillars of Eternity and Divinity Original Sin both excellent. Wasteland 2 which was pants but you can't win them all.

There is no shortage of games on any platform, even Xbox One which lost out for me because I bought multiplats either on PC or PS4 but if X1 is your main system it is a perfectly good one.

So many great games this year it's hard to fit them all in. 'No games' yes, it's a myth.

Everyone knows the ps4 has more games. Gamemfaqs should help with a of games that are missing from ps4 , ps4 tab > more releases and add Earth Defense Force 4.1 too.

@Midnightshade29:

PS4hasnogames is a meme coined by hermits which roughly translates to: "PS4 has no good games that I can't get the better version of on PC for cheaper."

Lems just jumped on it to shitpost about PS4 in their glass houses. However, the meme was broken when Bloodborne came out. The new meme is "Onegamestation4"

Quite a few people care about Bloodborne and Persona 5