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#51 DA_B0MB
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Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Kez1984

You cannot be serious.

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#52 rolo107
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Cliff B just admitted himself that MGS4 has the best IN GAME cutscenes. I hope lemmings dont take this as bad news and turn emo now. I hope this ends those silly graphics argumentsRage010101

Saying they have the best in game scenes doesn't mean graphically, he just means cinematically done, etc. If he wanted to say the best graphics he could have easily said so, rather then hiding it in a message like that.

Regardless, one thing I can agree on in Metal Gear Solid 4 is the sound. That is the best sound I have ever heard in a video game, even in most movies too. [

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#53 VanHelsingBoA64
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MGS4 isn't for everyone and with that said, I think kojima is overrated and should die with a bunch of mgs copies shoved in his mouth.Ilived

For reals? I think this site would help you a lot.

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#54 VanHelsingBoA64
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.DA_B0MB

You cannot be serious.

Have you seen any of his other posts? He bashes pretty much anything that isn't on the PC.

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#55 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="russdmoore"][QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.AAllxxjjnn

Wait you are calling MGS4 when you gave Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn a 10. That game was shallow. You are just an angry hermit. I feel bad for you. :lol:

Wow...this guy has no idea.....

So does Kez1984.


By that you mean you don't like the opinion?

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#56 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Ilived"]MGS4 isn't for everyone and with that said, I think kojima is overrated and should die with a bunch of mgs copies shoved in his mouth.VanHelsingBoA64

For reals? I think this site would help you a lot.

Gears Of War and Unreal Tournament III are on the pc.

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#57 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.DA_B0MB

You cannot be serious.

Its a shame lemmings will go THIS far as to avoid saying MGS is a good game....

oh well fanboys miss out I guess :?

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#58 NaiKoN9293
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Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Kez1984

crysis, now thats shallow

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#59 AvIdGaMeR444
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Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Kez1984

I agree that Gears of War was shallow, but I liked it anyway for some reason. CliffyB seems like a shallow person during interviews. Unfortunately, the success of Gears of War has made an already arrogant person even more so.

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#60 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.NaiKoN9293

crysis, now thats shallow

Really?

Use Stealth, run past, not fight at all. Use Strengh, throw them off a cliff, Use Strengh punching them, Use speed, run into them, take a vehicle and run over them, Mod your weapon on the fly, Take a vehicle and use a turret, fight a vehicle and not take it all together, play the entire game on foot, Take a boat, fight a boat, bypass an objective, approache your objective in numerous ways, options options options...

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#61 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.sparkypants

You cannot be serious.

Its a shame lemmings will go THIS far as to avoid saying MGS is a good game....

oh well fanboys miss out I guess :?


1- I have a 360 and Love MGS 4(then again I own all 4 systems)
2- That guy is a hermit
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#62 HarryCrackage
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[QUOTE="russdmoore"][QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Suliman-Uchia

Wait you are calling MGS4 when you gave Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn a 10. That game was shallow. You are just an angry hermit. I feel bad for you. :lol:

Wow...this guy has no idea.....

You know I really don't mean that he is insulting MGS4 that is why.

Your logic (or lack there of) is astounding. Why, pray tell, do you feel the need to slam a game because MGS IV was slammed? Is Kojima your little brother and you can't handle seeing him picked on? Really, it is just a game dude.

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#63 sparkypants
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[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="DA_B0MB"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.jg4xchamp

You cannot be serious.

Its a shame lemmings will go THIS far as to avoid saying MGS is a good game....

oh well fanboys miss out I guess :?


1- I have a 360 and Love MGS 4(then again I own all 4 systems)
2- That guy is a hermit

then you is no lemming :D

as for him, whatever the fanboy you have to be stupid not to have any respect for either of these games, even if you dont have a taste in the genera you have to admire there dedication to their work

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#64 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Kez1984

crysis, now thats shallow

Really?

Use Stealth, run past, not fight at all. Use Strengh, throw them off a cliff, Use Strengh punching them, Use speed, run into them, take a vehicle and run over them, Mod your weapon on the fly, Take a vehicle and use a turret, fight a vehicle and not take it all together, play the entire game on foot, Take a boat, fight a boat, bypass an objective, approache your objective in numerous ways, options options options...


1- THat makes the game an open world shooter. That would make any sandbox game a deep game. Like Saints Row and Grand THeft Auto
2- THe powerups are just that, powerups. It isn't like an RPG or say System SHock 2 where those aspects of the character gets stronger.
3- The gameplay mechanics are good, but they aren't really that deep.
4- MGS 4 is a stealth game, what the hell do you expect? The environments have enough passages and options for multiple ways to move forward. THe gunplay is improved. WHy the hell would Solid Snake have super strength?

I mean for all intents and purposes. Crysis is great visuals. But for the most part shallow in its story and in tems of gameplay it is very good. But it isn't exactly deep. I mean crap the game makes Bioshock look deep.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="russdmoore"][QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Kez1984

Wait you are calling MGS4 when you gave Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn a 10. That game was shallow. You are just an angry hermit. I feel bad for you. :lol:

Wow...this guy has no idea.....

So does Kez1984.


By that you mean you don't like the opinion?

An opinion is meaningless without sound reasoning backing up a specific claim. Usually people who rely on the "It's leik my opinon" defense are those who can't even defend themselves.

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#66 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.jg4xchamp

crysis, now thats shallow

Really?

Use Stealth, run past, not fight at all. Use Strengh, throw them off a cliff, Use Strengh punching them, Use speed, run into them, take a vehicle and run over them, Mod your weapon on the fly, Take a vehicle and use a turret, fight a vehicle and not take it all together, play the entire game on foot, Take a boat, fight a boat, bypass an objective, approache your objective in numerous ways, options options options...



2- It isn't like an RPG or say System SHock 2 where those aspects of the character gets stronger.

So what? It's not.

Try running around without maximum armour while your shot at or chocking someone to save ammo without maximum strengh. Try sniping from a long distance without maximum strengh.

Yea, all those things listed were irrevelent, it's true.

Ed: Yea, the story, I'd agree with you there, however, I'd rather play the game than watch the game. The installs for each act don't help matters either.

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#67 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="russdmoore"][QUOTE="Suliman-Uchia"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.AAllxxjjnn

Wait you are calling MGS4 when you gave Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn a 10. That game was shallow. You are just an angry hermit. I feel bad for you. :lol:

Wow...this guy has no idea.....

So does Kez1984.


By that you mean you don't like the opinion?

Usually people who rely on the "It's leik my opinon" defense are those who can't even defend themselves.

Oh please, people with opinions that don't abide by Metal Gear fanboys get pitch forks up there ass.

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#69 NaiKoN9293
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.jg4xchamp

crysis, now thats shallow

Really?

Use Stealth, run past, not fight at all. Use Strengh, throw them off a cliff, Use Strengh punching them, Use speed, run into them, take a vehicle and run over them, Mod your weapon on the fly, Take a vehicle and use a turret, fight a vehicle and not take it all together, play the entire game on foot, Take a boat, fight a boat, bypass an objective, approache your objective in numerous ways, options options options...


1- THat makes the game an open world shooter. That would make any sandbox game a deep game. Like Saints Row and Grand THeft Auto
2- THe powerups are just that, powerups. It isn't like an RPG or say System SHock 2 where those aspects of the character gets stronger.
3- The gameplay mechanics are good, but they aren't really that deep.
4- MGS 4 is a stealth game, what the hell do you expect? The environments have enough passages and options for multiple ways to move forward. THe gunplay is improved. WHy the hell would Solid Snake have super strength?

I mean for all intents and purposes. Crysis is great visuals. But for the most part shallow in its story and in tems of gameplay it is very good. But it isn't exactly deep. I mean crap the game makes Bioshock look deep.

the gameplay in crysis is bested by other fps games like cod4 and the orange box. crysis looks pretty but doesnt play as well as other fps games out there. If were talking deep, then look at STALKER, a game where you can make choices that affect the gameworld. thats a deep game, not just a game where you can choose to throw someone off a cliff or run them over with the AIDS-Mobile

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#70 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="NaiKoN9293"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.NaiKoN9293

crysis, now thats shallow

Really?

Use Stealth, run past, not fight at all. Use Strengh, throw them off a cliff, Use Strengh punching them, Use speed, run into them, take a vehicle and run over them, Mod your weapon on the fly, Take a vehicle and use a turret, fight a vehicle and not take it all together, play the entire game on foot, Take a boat, fight a boat, bypass an objective, approache your objective in numerous ways, options options options...


1- THat makes the game an open world shooter. That would make any sandbox game a deep game. Like Saints Row and Grand THeft Auto
2- THe powerups are just that, powerups. It isn't like an RPG or say System SHock 2 where those aspects of the character gets stronger.
3- The gameplay mechanics are good, but they aren't really that deep.
4- MGS 4 is a stealth game, what the hell do you expect? The environments have enough passages and options for multiple ways to move forward. THe gunplay is improved. WHy the hell would Solid Snake have super strength?

I mean for all intents and purposes. Crysis is great visuals. But for the most part shallow in its story and in tems of gameplay it is very good. But it isn't exactly deep. I mean crap the game makes Bioshock look deep.

cod4 .

Welcome to 2003.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyQTCeobZlg

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I dont get what you're saying. But I can only assume that you agree that Crysis is the best looking game ever, but has mediocre gameplay compared to others.
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#72 Truth_Hurts_U
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Maybe people don't remember when Hindo was sitting down and playing Gears of War at Cliffy's both?

I'm sure they are some what friends. So why would he have anything bad to say?

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#73 Kez1984
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I dont get what you're saying. But I can only assume that you agree that Crysis is the best looking game ever, but has mediocre gameplay compared to others.NaiKoN9293

The gameplay urinates on Call Of Duty 4. The only memorable sequence of Call Of Duty 4 was the ending with deviates from the "Hurry we saved the day you guys!" so common in games, and Halflife: Episode 2 done this also, other than that, it's call of duty with skins, I would imagine most 360 people and ps3 people never actully played the first one so it's more of a wow factor for them. Orange Box? Yea, sure. I'd agree.

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#74 Truth_Hurts_U
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Here is an artical saying Kojima is a hardcore Gears fan.

Click here

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#75 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]How fitting. Kojima Loves Gears of War. DivergeUnify

My thoughts exactly :P

They should team up and make the ultimate game xD

METAL GEARS OF WAR SOLID COMFIRMED!!!

:P

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#76 BuryMe
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I thought he initially called it passive entertainment...

maybe he was talkiong about something else.

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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.UnknownSniper65

Correctamundo. Also I just don't dig the guy.

I still don't see why GEoW is so highly regarded...its gameplay was incredibly flawed. The cover system is by far the worst one that I have seen put into an AAA game thus far. Even GTAIV's cover system felt more natural than the one put into GEoW.

Lol I can't believe you just said that. GEoW had one of the best cover systems I have ever played. And many would agree with me. You Fail

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#78 lolkie_81
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[QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.UnknownSniper65

That was a joke right? The cover system in gta4 sucked. No way in hell is it better or feel more natural than the gears cover system.

Correctamundo. Also I just don't dig the guy.

I still don't see why GEoW is so highly regarded...its gameplay was incredibly flawed. The cover system is by far the worst one that I have seen put into an AAA game thus far. Even GTAIV's cover system felt more natural than the one put into GEoW.

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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"][QUOTE="Gamingcucumber"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Cliffy makes shallow overrated games, it kinda figures he would admire shallow overrated games.Jackman1

Correctamundo. Also I just don't dig the guy.

I still don't see why GEoW is so highly regarded...its gameplay was incredibly flawed. The cover system is by far the worst one that I have seen put into an AAA game thus far. Even GTAIV's cover system felt more natural than the one put into GEoW.

Lol I can't believe you just said that. GEoW had one of the best cover systems I have ever played. And many would agree with me. You Fail

agreed, the gears cover system is near perfection, easy and accessable, yet complex and effective, one of the best gameplay element of any game this gen...