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#1 Promised_Trini
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http://www.gamersmint.com/activision-there-is-no-simple-port-for-cod-elite-on-ps3-very-complex-dev-challenge

Let me know when this company stops kissing Microsofts butt..

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#2 Ly_the_Fairy
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Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

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#3 theuncharted34
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What is this? The next COD game after MW3?

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#5 Promised_Trini
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Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Ly_the_Fairy

All of a sudden its problem to bring elite over to PS3?.

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#6 Wanderer5
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Promised_Trini

All of a sudden its problem to bring elite over to PS3?.

Maybe it actually is? I mean this isn't the first time we heard something like this.

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#7 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Promised_Trini

All of a sudden its problem to bring elite over to PS3?.

And MS is paying them to say that?

Otherwise there'd be ZERO reason for them to say it in the first place... Unless of course they actually are having problems bringing Elite to the PS3...

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#8 StealthMonkey4
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I'm sure it is, Luckily Activision is hard-working and really loves their fans so I think they'll figure it out. Go Activision. :)

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#9 UCF_Knight
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Good. Gives them something to do since they're so damn lazy with the actual COD games.
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#10 timmy00
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Maybe they're just having a hard time bringing it over to the PS3. :P

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#11 coltgames
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not something i would pay for anyway
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#12 UCF_Knight
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not something i would pay for anywaycoltgames
Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.
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#13 coltgames
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[QUOTE="coltgames"]not something i would pay for anywayUCF_Knight
Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.

whats most? and i thought elite was a paid service if im wrong then im wrong but i need some information

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#14 UCF_Knight
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="coltgames"]not something i would pay for anywaycoltgames
Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.

whats most?

Everything they've announced. The only reason to pay, so far, is if you want subscription based content. ie. map packs and anything else they offer DLC wise.
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#15 timmy00
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="coltgames"]not something i would pay for anywaycoltgames
Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.

whats most?

Pretty much everything actually. Stat tracking, leaderboards, etc. The only thing you "can" pay for includes something about DLC and a few unannounced stuff. (I think.)

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#16 coltgames
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[QUOTE="coltgames"][QUOTE="UCF_Knight"] Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.timmy00

whats most?

Pretty much everything actually. Stat tracking, leaderboards, etc. The only thing you "can" pay for includes something about DLC and a few unannounced stuff. (I think.)

cant u all ready do that? now
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[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="coltgames"]not something i would pay for anywaycoltgames

Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.

whats most? and i thought elite was a paid service if im wrong then im wrong but i need some information

I don't think this is all of the free features, but:

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I have heard how 360 does allow developers to receive more data than the PS3. (Blur developers mentioned this when the beta was on 360 only) however at the same time, Naughty Dog will be doing this for UC 3 and I think the other first party games do this. Naturally they're first party devs who pool their resources together and work under Sony, but maybe Sony needs to help out Activision.
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#19 coltgames
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[QUOTE="coltgames"]

[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"] Most of it is free. You don't have to pay for it anyways.DangerousLiquid

whats most? and i thought elite was a paid service if im wrong then im wrong but i need some information

I don't think this is all of the free features, but:

so what are u paying for then if all thats free? and some of that stuff u can all ready do

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#20 UCF_Knight
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For the benefit of everyone, everything shown in this video is free.

Of which includes:

  • Unparalleled stat tracking. We all know Blops has a bunch of stats. More than any shooter I believe.
  • Change your in game loadout on the go from your cell phone, ipad, laptop.
  • Compare your stats to the world, your region, your city, or neighborhood.
  • Individualized, custom leaderboard tracker.
  • Extensive map breakdowns. Check stats on the most recent maps you played like hot spots.
  • Theater mode is online. Highlights and staff picks blah blah. Premium content later. Maybe some shows.
  • Videos on weapon and perk strategies. Feature to help improve your game.
  • "Compete" feature that allows you to play in tournaments and objectives against other players in the world, in order to win virtual and real prizes, like a Jeep.
  • "Connect" allows you to find like minded players to play with. Create groups. Message boards.
  • Facebook integration like Uncharted 3.
  • ClansTREAL_Since

Thanks Treal. :P

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#21 UCF_Knight
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cant u all ready do that? nowcoltgames
Um, no.. The current online service doesn't have nearly the amount of features as Elite.
so what are u paying for then if all thats free?coltgames
I already told you. >.>
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#23 Promised_Trini
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[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Ly_the_Fairy

All of a sudden its problem to bring elite over to PS3?.

And MS is paying them to say that?

Otherwise there'd be ZERO reason for them to say it in the first place... Unless of course they actually are having problems bringing Elite to the PS3...

Where did I say MS was paying them...With Activision and their crappy ports of COD on PS3...You think I believe for secondthey're having a hard time bringing elite over?...They're just being lazy I won't be surprised if they say how they have canceled the Elite beta for PS3...And how PS3 owners have to wait until MW3 comes out to see how Elite is...

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#24 lawlessx
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I've been noticing a pattern with activision and microsoft from sometime now. Looking back they announced a Exclusive deal stating that DLC for cod would be a timed exclusive on the 360,But i don't think that was the only agreement made. Was I the only one that found abit odd that after this deal is made the PC/ps3 versions of BO are released buggy and in some cases unplayble due to terrible stuttering and framerate issues while the 360 version ran fine? I mean it's not like this was an small isolated issue..it was wide spread and it took days to even get an official statement and weeks to start getting some patches done.

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#25 eboyishere
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i understand early in the gen...but it's been years since the ps3 released. I would think by now after working with teh cell for years they would be better
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#26 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Its not hard to understand.. The XBL service is far more unified.. My experience of PSN consists of alot of potential but alot of things half assed or just ignored through the years.. Why PSN to this day doesn't provide a party service, cross game chat, a better UI.. And just more unified features that are the same through each game is beyond me.
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#27 DangerousLiquid
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[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

[QUOTE="coltgames"] whats most? and i thought elite was a paid service if im wrong then im wrong but i need some information

coltgames

I don't think this is all of the free features, but:

so what are u paying for then if all thats free? and some of that stuff u can all ready do

NOT ANNOUNCED.

Not even all the free features are announced.

Elite, as a whole, will destroy Steam and any online service we've seen yet.

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I've been noticing a pattern with activision and microsoft from sometime now. Looking back they announced a Exclusive deal stating that DLC for cod would be a timed exclusive on the 360,But i don't think that was the only agreement made. Was I the only one that found abit odd that after this deal is made the PC/ps3 versions of BO are released buggy and in some cases unplayble due to terrible stuttering and framerate issues while the 360 version ran fine? I mean it's not like this was an small isolated issue..it was wide spread and it took takes to even get an official statement and weeks to start getting some patches done. lawlessx

it was. i played it for a week on ps3 and got rid of it.

You should have seen there official forums, the ps3 threads were being flooded for weeks about how bad it is

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#29 lawlessx
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Elite will destroy steam? do you even know what steam is?
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#30 coltgames
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[QUOTE="coltgames"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

I don't think this is all of the free features, but:

DangerousLiquid

so what are u paying for then if all thats free? and some of that stuff u can all ready do

NOT ANNOUNCED.

Not even all the free features are announced.

Elite, as a whole, will destroy Steam and any online service we've seen yet.

dude whatever i was wong not realy that big of deal relax its a gaming forum nothing else

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#31 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]I've been noticing a pattern with activision and microsoft from sometime now. Looking back they announced a Exclusive deal stating that DLC for cod would be a timed exclusive on the 360,But i don't think that was the only agreement made. Was I the only one that found abit odd that after this deal is made the PC/ps3 versions of BO are released buggy and in some cases unplayble due to terrible stuttering and framerate issues while the 360 version ran fine? I mean it's not like this was an small isolated issue..it was wide spread and it took takes to even get an official statement and weeks to start getting some patches done. eboyishere

it was. i played it for a week on ps3 and got rid of it.

You should have seen there official forums, the ps3 threads were being flooded for weeks about how bad it is

I was following the PC side of things..it was a nightmare.
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#32 altairs_mentor
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They just can't handle teh cell.
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#33 DangerousLiquid
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Elite will destroy steam? do you even know what steam is?lawlessx

Wait until the full reveal before you make any judgements, imo.

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#34 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Elite will destroy steam? do you even know what steam is?DangerousLiquid

Wait until the full reveal before you make any judgements, imo.

You should try following the same advice..
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#35 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Development challenge? lol. RAGE is a development challenge. Using a decade old engine, having tons of money to make what you want, and having the ability to make any set piece/story you want (with the only requirement is it being a CoD, Michael Bay set piece/story) isn't a development challenge. It really takes them 2 years to make a slightly upgraded sequel? We see many games take huge leaps forward in 2 years (ex: Infamous to Infamous 2), so what exactly do these devs do for 2 years? Because if there are any notable improvements, I'm not seeing it.

You know what they say, if youre going to do something...do it with a DON :P so stop complaining IW :x

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#36 Puckhog04
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Yea seems kinda ridiculous.

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#37 super600  Moderator
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I don't believe Acti since they hae a deal with MS.Anyway Elite won't destroy Steam.

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#38 firefluff3
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[QUOTE="coltgames"]

[QUOTE="DangerousLiquid"]

I don't think this is all of the free features, but:

DangerousLiquid

so what are u paying for then if all thats free? and some of that stuff u can all ready do

NOT ANNOUNCED.

Not even all the free features are announced.

Elite, as a whole, will destroy Steam and any online service we've seen yet.

:P comparing a digital download service to stats and statistics.

And halo had most of that before, even BF did.

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#39 Ly_the_Fairy
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I've been noticing a pattern with activision and microsoft from sometime now. Looking back they announced a Exclusive deal stating that DLC for cod would be a timed exclusive on the 360,But i don't think that was the only agreement made. Was I the only one that found abit odd that after this deal is made the PC/ps3 versions of BO are released buggy and in some cases unplayble due to terrible stuttering and framerate issues while the 360 version ran fine? I mean it's not like this was an small isolated issue..it was wide spread and it took days to even get an official statement and weeks to start getting some patches done.

lawlessx

I just can't imagine a developer intentionally crippling versions of their games that go on to sell 10+ million copies (PC + PS3 versions).

Do they want to lose those 10+ million customers? That sounds good for business...

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Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Ly_the_Fairy
If anything they're kissing butt by NOT mentioning the 360. I'm sure if they're having any problems with the PS3 they're going to have some with the 360 as well. It's just nature, 2 consoles similar in horsepower are going to both have similar problems. However, saying something negative about the 360 would be bad business for Activision with all of the timed-exclusive/sponsor contracts Microsoft feeds them all the time. I don't think I've ever seen Activision say one thing negative about Microsoft or the 360 and I'm pretty sure that's why.
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#41 Promised_Trini
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

I've been noticing a pattern with activision and microsoft from sometime now. Looking back they announced a Exclusive deal stating that DLC for cod would be a timed exclusive on the 360,But i don't think that was the only agreement made. Was I the only one that found abit odd that after this deal is made the PC/ps3 versions of BO are released buggy and in some cases unplayble due to terrible stuttering and framerate issues while the 360 version ran fine? I mean it's not like this was an small isolated issue..it was wide spread and it took days to even get an official statement and weeks to start getting some patches done.

Ly_the_Fairy

I just can't imagine a developer intentionally crippling versions of their games that go on to sell 10+ million copies (PC + PS3 versions).

Do they want to lose those 10+ million customers? That sounds good for business...

Well they did and PS3 and PC ver.suffered that hit.While I rearly heard about problems on the 360.

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#42 Filthybastrd
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I suppose that confirms that CoD: Elite is a port.

Word of advice: It would'nt be so complex if it was built for the system, rather than ported.

Edit: And the Fact the CoD is Marketed as more or less 360 exclusive does'nt help their case imho.....

How about not porting your code?

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I don't believe Acti since they hae a deal with MS.Anyway Elite won't destroy Steam.

super600

Steam and Elite are not in direct competition for one another to begin with..

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#44 gamer620
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Promised_Trini

All of a sudden its problem to bring elite over to PS3?.

Xbox Live and PSN are two completely different online structures. As far as I know, MS has always allowed developers and even web hosts access to indepth Xbox Live game stats tracking, something Sony is not as well known for.

For example:http://www.1up.com/news/bioware-details-mass-effect-2-stats

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[QUOTE="super600"]

I don't believe Acti since they hae a deal with MS.Anyway Elite won't destroy Steam.

sSubZerOo

Steam and Elite are not in direct competition for one another to begin with..

I was answering what that extreme COD fanboy DangerousLiquid said.

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#46 AcidSoldner
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Maybe that's because you (Activision) shouldn't port all of your crap over to the PS3 like you have in the past with all CoD content. I mean, this is a back-end stat tracking service we're talking about here, not some super complex game. It's 2011 Activision, get with the program.
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#47 Evolution-X0
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I don't think Sony allows external companies to use their data. So I would guess that would make sense.
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If i pay for this service will i be able to upload more than 30 second videos to youtube? if they allow that i'll pay and not get that HD PVR ( at least not this year ). anyone know?

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Why all of a sudden do they do this now? They didn't have any issues in the past, but all of a sudden it's now? Naughty Dog, Konami, and most Multiplat Devs don't have problems like this. So why all ofa sudden?

Of course both systems have different abiltiles but the differences in 90% of multiplats are so small and insignificant that they are unoticable. My guess is that Activision is just being lazy or got another deal with MS not to release it yet. I mean there have been ALOT of betas on PSN like AC Brotherhood, Uncharted 3 ect... and AC Revelations is having a Beta on PSN pretty soon too at the same time as their AC Revelations beta on Xbox Live, and they don't seem to be having any issues.

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Why all of a sudden do they do this now? They didn't have any issues in the past, but all of a sudden it's now? Naughty Dog, Konami, and most Multiplat Devs don't have problems like this. So why all ofa sudden?

Of course both systems have different abiltiles but the differences in 90% of multiplats are so small and insignificant that they are unoticable. My guess is that Activision is just being lazy or got another deal with MS not to release it yet. I mean there have been ALOT of betas on PSN like AC Brotherhood, Uncharted 3 ect... and AC Revelations is having a Beta on PSN pretty soon too at the same time as their AC Revelations beta on Xbox Live, and they don't seem to be having any issues.

ShadowMoses900
Did you read the article at all? your talking as if Elite is a game