CoD: Elite on PS3, very complex dev challenge says Activision...

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Why all of a sudden do they do this now? They didn't have any issues in the past, but all of a sudden it's now? Naughty Dog, Konami, and most Multiplat Devs don't have problems like this. So why all ofa sudden?

Of course both systems have different abiltiles but the differences in 90% of multiplats are so small and insignificant that they are unoticable. My guess is that Activision is just being lazy or got another deal with MS not to release it yet. I mean there have been ALOT of betas on PSN like AC Brotherhood, Uncharted 3 ect... and AC Revelations is having a Beta on PSN pretty soon too at the same time as their AC Revelations beta on Xbox Live, and they don't seem to be having any issues.

lawlessx

Yes, Elite is an option that you can pay for to get some bonus stuff...Still doesn't change the fact that there isn't really any reason to complain about this in 2011.

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

gamedude234

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

Promised_Trini

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

Exactly...the PS3 has been out on the market for a long time now and most Devs have no problem whatsoever in developing for it. And 90% of themultiplats have insgignificant and near invisible differences that they are basically the same, no one sees any difference in the first place unless they go to fanboy sites like lens of truth where they nitpick the number of leaves on a tree :lol:

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

Promised_Trini

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

then explain why devs are still saying that the PS3 is harder to work on.

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

gamedude234

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

then explain why devs are still saying that the PS3 is harder to work on.

Most devs arn't saying that anymore, besides that Peter Molonoux from LionHead studios and about 2 others most devs don't have a problem with it anymore. I know people like to pretend multiplats are "vastly" different from each other on the PS3 and 360 but that's just fanboy talk. 90% of the time you can't tell the difference at all, unless you go to fanboy sites like lens of truth where they nitpick insiginifcant differences. Otherwise no one really noitices or cares.

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

gamedude234

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

then explain why devs are still saying that the PS3 is harder to work on.

Plain and simple...People don't like change in tech...

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

ShadowMoses900

then explain why devs are still saying that the PS3 is harder to work on.

Most devs arn't saying that anymore, besides that Peter Molonoux from LionHead studios and about 2 others most devs don't have a problem with it anymore. I know people like to pretend multiplats are "vastly" different from each other on the PS3 and 360 but that's just fanboy talk. 90% of the time you can't tell the difference at all, unless you go to fanboy sites like lens of truth where they nitpick insiginifcant differences. Otherwise no one really noitices or cares.

why are you constantly mentioning multiplats? we all know that for a few exceptions(like black ops), there isn't a major difference, all its saying is that the 360 is more developer friendly. Nothing less, nothing more. No need to get worked up about it.

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

Like someone said, this isn't the first time we've heard something like this. The PS3 is a harder platform to develope for, simple as that. Not buying COD elite anyway, as Halo and other games have had things like that for years, and for free, but whatever i guess. Activison will probabaly market it well enough to convince people to dish out money for something as dumb as this....

gamedude234

It's not 2006-2007 no more...Dev's should understand the PS3 tech by now...It's pitifully excuse if you ask me now...To hear dev's are is still complaining about the PS3 and its what 2011 now...

then explain why devs are still saying that the PS3 is harder to work on.

laziness? i mean like he said it: it's been years since ps3 released, im pretty sure they know there way around teh cell

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

then explain why devs are still saying that the PS3 is harder to work on.

gamedude234

Most devs arn't saying that anymore, besides that Peter Molonoux from LionHead studios and about 2 others most devs don't have a problem with it anymore. I know people like to pretend multiplats are "vastly" different from each other on the PS3 and 360 but that's just fanboy talk. 90% of the time you can't tell the difference at all, unless you go to fanboy sites like lens of truth where they nitpick insiginifcant differences. Otherwise no one really noitices or cares.

why are you constantly mentioning multiplats? we all know that for a few exceptions(like black ops), there isn't a major difference, all its saying is that the 360 is more developer friendly. Nothing less, nothing more. No need to get worked up about it.

Because people that mention it being hard to develop for use multiplat differences to try and justify it, and what's wrong with PS3 Black Ops exactly? It did have a few issues with getting dropped from parties at launch but they updated and fixed it like 3 days after launch.

But by this point in time there is no excuse to use the "PS3 being hard to develop for" anymore. Naughty Dog doesn't complain about it, Konami doesn't complain about,majority of devs don't complain about it anymore, and Infinity Ward didn't complain about iteither until now.It was only considered hard to develop for at around launch, but around a year or 2 after that devs started to understand it better.

And why do you assume I'm angry?

Why all of a sudden do they do this now? They didn't have any issues in the past, but all of a sudden it's now? Naughty Dog, Konami, and most Multiplat Devs don't have problems like this. So why all ofa sudden?

Of course both systems have different abiltiles but the differences in 90% of multiplats are so small and insignificant that they are unoticable. My guess is that Activision is just being lazy or got another deal with MS not to release it yet. I mean there have been ALOT of betas on PSN like AC Brotherhood, Uncharted 3 ect... and AC Revelations is having a Beta on PSN pretty soon too at the same time as their AC Revelations beta on Xbox Live, and they don't seem to be having any issues.

ShadowMoses900

Lets see.

Xbox live superior to psn. Microsoft far more progressive in implimentation of API's for their own Online stats, and website access services for xbox live and 3rd party API's for their own use.
Sony has no concept of online stats, trophy support for API use by 3rd parties most have to ghetto it and refresh and view the Sony website and such.

so what amounts to a completely connected profile, stats intensive system it wouldn't be surprising its hard to impliment on Psn or Connecting with playstation.us

Acti can only do copy and paste, now they have to actually do some work they are struggling... What a joke, i bet the price just went up because Activision had to do some brain work.JohnF111

lol oh wow activision.

Acti can only do copy and paste, now they have to actually do some work they are struggling... What a joke, i bet the price just went up because Activision had to do some brain work.JohnF111

Get out of my head:cry:

Heard it before.

Lazy devs.

Blame the casuals

This isn't news, every way to access this "service" will feel like a sloppy port, since the very nature of Activision swill development doesn't allow for quality.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Most devs arn't saying that anymore, besides that Peter Molonoux from LionHead studios and about 2 others most devs don't have a problem with it anymore. I know people like to pretend multiplats are "vastly" different from each other on the PS3 and 360 but that's just fanboy talk. 90% of the time you can't tell the difference at all, unless you go to fanboy sites like lens of truth where they nitpick insiginifcant differences. Otherwise no one really noitices or cares.

ShadowMoses900

why are you constantly mentioning multiplats? we all know that for a few exceptions(like black ops), there isn't a major difference, all its saying is that the 360 is more developer friendly. Nothing less, nothing more. No need to get worked up about it.

Because people that mention it being hard to develop for use multiplat differences to try and justify it, and what's wrong with PS3 Black Ops exactly? It did have a few issues with getting dropped from parties at launch but they updated and fixed it like 3 days after launch.

But by this point in time there is no excuse to use the "PS3 being hard to develop for" anymore. Naughty Dog doesn't complain about it, Konami doesn't complain about,majority of devs don't complain about it anymore, and Infinity Ward didn't complain about iteither until now.It was only considered hard to develop for at around launch, but around a year or 2 after that devs started to understand it better.

And why do you assume I'm angry?

the PS3 version of black ops is quite inferior to the 360 version. Framerate drops, more lag, that sort of thing.

Again, multiple devs have said in the past year or so how its harder to develop for the PS3. I think Bioware said something similar as well. Is this a bad thing? is it limiting devs or is it forcing them to work harder to make better games? Either way, the PS3 is harder to work on, in some cases noticbly, in other cases no. Fact.

Erm... I have a question for Activision...

Why Valve can make Steamworks available to PS3 and said it's impossible to do it on Xbox?

I've been noticing a pattern with activision and microsoft from sometime now. Looking back they announced a Exclusive deal stating that DLC for cod would be a timed exclusive on the 360,But i don't think that was the only agreement made. Was I the only one that found abit odd that after this deal is made the PC/ps3 versions of BO are released buggy and in some cases unplayble due to terrible stuttering and framerate issues while the 360 version ran fine? I mean it's not like this was an small isolated issue..it was wide spread and it took days to even get an official statement and weeks to start getting some patches done.

lawlessx

Bungie did it fine, years ago. Perhaps Acitvision should ask them?

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

Where do you get the idea that they're kissing MS's butt from that article?

Promised_Trini

All of a sudden its problem to bring elite over to PS3?.

Lets see.

Xbox live superior to psn. Microsoft far more progressive in implimentation of API's for their own Online stats, and website access services for xbox live and 3rd party API's for their own use.
Sony has no concept of online stats, trophy support for API use by 3rd parties most have to ghetto it and refresh and view the Sony website and such.

so what amounts to a completely connected profile, stats intensive system it wouldn't be surprising its hard to impliment on Psn or Connecting with playstation.us

WilliamRLBaker

Your posts are laughable...

Bungie did it fine, years ago. Perhaps Acitvision should ask them?

-Snooze-

Huh? Bungie didn't start working for PS3 until recently...

I don't think people got the message quite right here , including TC , the complex dev challenge is that this time they need to work solely on the ps3 (and 360 for that matter , which ain't a problem since it's always been the lead platform) for the elite part , while in the other games a simple port would do.

activision is using ten year old tools, so im not suprsised.

Good. Makes the dev work harder.

i'm calling it now. cod elite will not launch until after a month mw3 is released on ps3. quote it right now.

i'm calling it now. cod elite will not launch until after a month mw3 is released on ps3. quote it right now.

Gotham-Calls

i felt the same. It will beat black ops for the buggy as hell game/add on activision has ever made :o