CoD gets slaughtered for not evolving, but is Battlefield all that different?

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="wis3boi"] shall i list every cod and the $45 in DLC each one gets every year?glez13

Since when are expansion packs that need the original game to run counts as a stand-alone title?

Also you have to notice that some of those titles are only for PC and others are only for consoles so you can't mix all of them together like that . For example on PC fans had to wait 2 year for a new Battlefield at certain point, something similar for console gamers.

Not including expansion packs and F2P games.

Call of Duty - 2003

Call of Duty: United Offensive - 2004

Call of Duty: Finest Hour - 2004

Call of Duty 2 - 2005

Call of Duty: Big Red One - 2005

Call of Duty 3 - 2006

Call of Duty: Road to Victory - 2007

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 2007

Call of Duty: World at War - 2008

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2009

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 2010

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2011

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Battlefield 1942 - 2002

Battlefield Vietnam - 2004

Battlefield 2 - 2005

Battlefield 2: Modern Comabat - 2005

Battlefield 2142 - 2006

Battlefield: Bad Company - 2008

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 2010

Battlefield 3 - 2011

el3m2tigre

[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"] OK, look kid. I'm not going to be rude, but here's the deal: Battlefield, is a nobody. What do I mean by nobody? I mean, it plays in the leagues of, say Resistance, Haze and Rage. Nobodies. Call of Duty 4 is the single most influential entertainment property of this generation. That is something entirely different. If you enjoyed the old BF games more than CoD4, fine. But CoD4 still gathered the biggest fanbase, sold the most, inspired the most developers, created a global phenomenon and is nowadays regarded as one of the finest FPS titles in history. No BF game has ever, or will ever top that, kid.GTAV2012

Why you calling him kid?

And the Halo franchise did far more for the gaming industry than COD. You sound like a pure fanboy.

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Here's why - Battlefield 1942, and certainly BF2, play way way better in online multiplay than CoD has EVER achieved. It hit it's peak in 2007 with CoD4 - it's been on a decline since then - and CoD4 was just a well balanced and designed, run-and-gun shooter with lots of tight corners to guaruntee some easy kills. It never even came close to being as deep as the oldest Battlefield game, it's always been on a different concept level.ermacness

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Not including expansion packs and F2P games.

Call of Duty - 2003

Call of Duty: United Offensive - 2004

Call of Duty: Finest Hour - 2004

Call of Duty 2 - 2005

Call of Duty: Big Red One - 2005

Call of Duty 3 - 2006

Call of Duty: Road to Victory - 2007

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 2007

Call of Duty: World at War - 2008

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2009

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 2010

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2011

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Battlefield 1942 - 2002

Battlefield Vietnam - 2004

Battlefield 2 - 2005

Battlefield 2: Modern Comabat - 2005

Battlefield 2142 - 2006

Battlefield: Bad Company - 2008

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 2010

Battlefield 3 - 2011

GTAV2012

I know, Activision has 2 teams prepped up for max milkage, but of course, it's what you guys want isn't it?:lol:

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

Why you calling him kid?

And the Halo franchise did far more for the gaming industry than COD. You sound like a pure fanboy.

Ironbash

Oh, please, TC.

Every game have introduced a new mechanic and/or a new setting.

The exception is the expansions and the Vietnam-DLC, but the expansions are incredibly cheap (and half of them free), and the Vietnam-DLC introduced a new setting, the first flamethrower, new maps, the radio, etc, at a fair price.

Can anyone here show me a BF-game (not an expansion) that didn't introduce something new?

(Also, where is Wasdie?)

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Not including expansion packs and F2P games.

Call of Duty - 2003

Call of Duty: United Offensive - 2004

Call of Duty: Finest Hour - 2004

Call of Duty 2 - 2005

Call of Duty: Big Red One - 2005

Call of Duty 3 - 2006

Call of Duty: Road to Victory - 2007

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 2007

Call of Duty: World at War - 2008

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2009

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 2010

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2011

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Battlefield 1942 - 2002

Battlefield Vietnam - 2004

Battlefield 2 - 2005

Battlefield 2: Modern Comabat - 2005

Battlefield 2142 - 2006

Battlefield: Bad Company - 2008

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 2010

Battlefield 3 - 2011

el3m2tigre

I know, Activision has 2 teams prepped up for max milkage, but of course, it's what you guys want isn't it?:lol:

Oh, please, TC.

Every game have introduced a new mechanic and/or a new setting.

The exception is the expansions and the Vietnam-DLC, but the expansions are incredibly cheap (and half of them free), and the Vietnam-DLC introduced a new setting, the first flamethrower, new maps, the radio, etc, at a fair price.

Can anyone here show me a BF-game (not an expansion) that didn't introduce something new?

(Also, where is Wasdie?)

Am_Confucius

Honestly I stopped caring a few months ago. When trailers first were coming out for BF3 I got caught up in the hype of it being the "Call of Duty Killer," and I wanted to see Activision get slapped around a bit, then EA started getting high on their own butt fumes and I realized that they just want to be Activision. They are using BF3 as a vehicle of online passes and forced Origin installs, and on top of that the game doesn't live up to the hype. It's got a weak single player campaign and no split screen multiplayer options, which in a lot of ways puts it behind Call of Duty.

Call of Duty may not have evolved since the original Modern Warfare, but at least Activision is giving people exactly what they expect from the series, while EA keeps trying to bend their customers over to short change them. Activision keeps milking their products by releasing them over and over with minimal changes, while EA tries to make improvements but they always come with strings attached. I have little interest in buying any brown and gray military FPS at this point, and lately I find that a nice RPG is much more my pot of tea.

[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

Not including expansion packs and F2P games.

Call of Duty - 2003

Call of Duty: United Offensive - 2004

Call of Duty: Finest Hour - 2004

Call of Duty 2 - 2005

Call of Duty: Big Red One - 2005

Call of Duty 3 - 2006

Call of Duty: Road to Victory - 2007

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 2007

Call of Duty: World at War - 2008

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2009

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 2010

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2011

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Battlefield 1942 - 2002

Battlefield Vietnam - 2004

Battlefield 2 - 2005

Battlefield 2: Modern Comabat - 2005

Battlefield 2142 - 2006

Battlefield: Bad Company - 2008

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 2010

Battlefield 3 - 2011

Loegi

It doesn't make any difference really. Yes it takes up development time, but it's free. The developers gain nothing from them. The point of that list is to show off the milkage.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"] OK, look kid. I'm not going to be rude, but here's the deal: Battlefield, is a nobody. What do I mean by nobody? I mean, it plays in the leagues of, say Resistance, Haze and Rage. Nobodies. Call of Duty 4 is the single most influential entertainment property of this generation. That is something entirely different. If you enjoyed the old BF games more than CoD4, fine. But CoD4 still gathered the biggest fanbase, sold the most, inspired the most developers, created a global phenomenon and is nowadays regarded as one of the finest FPS titles in history. No BF game has ever, or will ever top that, kid.GTAV2012

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="GTAV2012"] OK, Forge and Theatre were two great things by H3. But still, the game as a whole didn't push the genre as COD4 did (and Halo 1 had done prior to them). So Halo, lately, hasn't been nearly as revolutionary as it once was.GTAV2012

BF doesnt come out every yearmems_1224

[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Oh, please, TC.

Every game have introduced a new mechanic and/or a new setting.

The exception is the expansions and the Vietnam-DLC, but the expansions are incredibly cheap (and half of them free), and the Vietnam-DLC introduced a new setting, the first flamethrower, new maps, the radio, etc, at a fair price.

Can anyone here show me a BF-game (not an expansion) that didn't introduce something new?

(Also, where is Wasdie?)

Loegi

CS1.6 + mods>>>>>All other FPS. Killfox

Battlefield is the same game over and over. Dont believe the fanboys who are making battlefield 3 a huge game, its not. Its a utter flop. COD evolves, it adds more games modes and it adds more maps and more guns. BF3 feels like BC2 with different maps. Note to say, Battlefield always gets yearly releases.

maybe if there wasn't a new cod every 6 weeks people wouldn't rip on it so muchcomp_atkins

[QUOTE="Loegi"]I agree, I don't really see the difference between BF3 and BF2 besides graphics.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="Killfox"]CS1.6 + mods>>>>>All other FPS. ermacness

[QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Oh, please, TC.

Every game have introduced a new mechanic and/or a new setting.

The exception is the expansions and the Vietnam-DLC, but the expansions are incredibly cheap (and half of them free), and the Vietnam-DLC introduced a new setting, the first flamethrower, new maps, the radio, etc, at a fair price.

Can anyone here show me a BF-game (not an expansion) that didn't introduce something new?

(Also, where is Wasdie?)

Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="Am_Confucius"]

Oh, please, TC.

Every game have introduced a new mechanic and/or a new setting.

The exception is the expansions and the Vietnam-DLC, but the expansions are incredibly cheap (and half of them free), and the Vietnam-DLC introduced a new setting, the first flamethrower, new maps, the radio, etc, at a fair price.

Can anyone here show me a BF-game (not an expansion) that didn't introduce something new?

(Also, where is Wasdie?)

Am_Confucius

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]BF doesnt come out every yearvashkey

Battlefield certainly hasn't evolved, but it has changed substantially enough to warrent a sequel

Not that I have seen there are refinements but battlefield has not evolved bf3 plays exactly like bad company 1 and 2.

Battlefield is the same game over and over. Dont believe the fanboys who are making battlefield 3 a huge game, its not. Its a utter flop. COD evolves, it adds more games modes and it adds more maps and more guns. BF3 feels like BC2 with different maps. Note to say, Battlefield always gets yearly releases.

shahilsyed

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]maybe if there wasn't a new cod every 6 weeks people wouldn't rip on it so muchLoegi

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]

Battlefield is the same game over and over. Dont believe the fanboys who are making battlefield 3 a huge game, its not. Its a utter flop. COD evolves, it adds more games modes and it adds more maps and more guns. BF3 feels like BC2 with different maps. Note to say, Battlefield always gets yearly releases.

Am_Confucius

Battlefield is the same game over and over. Dont believe the fanboys who are making battlefield 3 a huge game, its not. Its a utter flop. COD evolves, it adds more games modes and it adds more maps and more guns. BF3 feels like BC2 with different maps. Note to say, Battlefield always gets yearly releases.

shahilsyed

Anyone, who's basically everyone who have "thoroughly" played both can easily tell you that BC2, and BF3 in terms of gameplay is completely 2 different games.

BTW, :lol: @ CoD evolves. The only thing that CoD manages to do is fix problems that the previous CoD had, and add new ones.:lol:

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]BF doesnt come out every yearermacness

Not that I have seen there are refinements but battlefield has not evolved bf3 plays exactly like bad company 1 and 2.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] It pretty much does now...vashkey

I love how people are saying "Stop counting teh DLC's but put BF's expansions in anyway!"kris9031998

[QUOTE="Loegi"]From Wikipedia:

2002 Battlefield 1942

2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome

2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII

2004 Battlefield Vietnam

2005 Battlefield 2

2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces

2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces

2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury

2006 Battlefield 2142

2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike

2008 Battlefield: Bad Company

2009 Battlefield Heroes

2009 Battlefield 1943

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam

2011 Battlefield Play4Free

2011 Battlefield 3

Seems like it released every year.wis3boi

rofl @ those in red. If you're gonna include those, then I'm going to count the CoD map packs

COD Black ops evolved alot than Mw2. BF3 did not evolve from BC2. Easy equation here. BTW BF3 is a huge flop.

[QUOTE="kris9031998"] [QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Loegi"]From Wikipedia:

2002 Battlefield 1942

2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome

2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII

2004 Battlefield Vietnam

2005 Battlefield 2

2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces

2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces

2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury

2006 Battlefield 2142

2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike

2008 Battlefield: Bad Company

2009 Battlefield Heroes

2009 Battlefield 1943

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam

2011 Battlefield Play4Free

2011 Battlefield 3

Seems like it released every year.Loegi

rofl @ those in red. If you're gonna include those, then I'm going to count the CoD map packs

EDIT: And BF has been around a while longer than CoD has if i am not mistaken.

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="ermacness"]but the difference is that it, in most cases, doesn't come out on every platform. The only ones that did this gen was 1943, BC2, and BF3, and last gen, it was BF2.

ermacness

When did the definition of milking become purely based on how many platforms a game is on? Seriously, with the amount of games and explansion released in the battlfield series in it's life time how can it not be milked? Both series are milked to heaven and back.

At this point it's silly to even argue over which is more milked. The fans just come off as elitists and tools. It's a game for crying out loud.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]BF doesnt come out every yearLoegi

2002 Battlefield 1942

2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome

2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII

2004 Battlefield Vietnam

2005Battlefield 2

2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces

2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces

2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury

2006 Battlefield 2142

2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike

2008 Battlefield: Bad Company

2009 Battlefield Heroes

2009 Battlefield 1943

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam

2010 Battlefield Online

2011 Battlefield Play4Free

2011 Battlefield 3 Seems like it released every year. EDIT: forgot the quote -_-'

Major ownage lol, good to see a few hermits trying to damage control :D.

In the end Both CoD and BF are the same except a few twists/upgrades each game that comes out, are they both good at what they do? yes, I'll be buying both (already have BF3).

Batlefield has evolved, and it isn't an annual franchise.

[QUOTE="kris9031998"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="Loegi"]From Wikipedia:

2002 Battlefield 1942

2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome

2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII

2004 Battlefield Vietnam

2005 Battlefield 2

2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces

2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces

2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury

2006 Battlefield 2142

2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike

2008 Battlefield: Bad Company

2009 Battlefield Heroes

2009 Battlefield 1943

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam

2011 Battlefield Play4Free

2011 Battlefield 3

Seems like it released every year.Loegi

rofl @ those in red. If you're gonna include those, then I'm going to count the CoD map packs

There are no expansion packs in this list, yet it has the same amount of games as CoD.

EDIT: I meant, these can be considered full games.

But they aren't full games. They are exapansion packs, they just add a few maps, vehicles, weapons etc.