CoD has ruined the industry.

Resistance is a CoD clone? I forgot the part in Call of Duty where aliens attacked and you had to use your weapon wheel, co-op partner and non regenerating health to fight back.

Seriously, I missed that one.

And I do want to say that the CoD complainers need to stop with the whining. CoD4 was easily one of the biggest and best games of this gen in multiplayer.

Some people really missed the point of this thread. :/

So in other words we dont have any COD clones.... well that makes sense, the only COD clone I know is COD it self :P

There is no CoD clone.. its just that some people refuse to get on the bandwagon.

Also , mw2 > crysis 2 :Pcampzor

And most importantly, Crysis > Crysis 2 8)

Crysis 2 is definitely a CoD clone. It'a very mediocre at best, it's in no way above CoD.Cow4ever

Why did you only list games with good review scores? There are a lot more shooters than that with CoD influence to them and not just FPS titles but shooters general far outmatch pretty much any genre that sell way less.

Why did you only list games with good review scores? There are a lot more shooters than that with CoD influence to them and not just FPS titles but shooters general far outmatch pretty much any genre that sell way less.

Crossel777

Damn, i'm contributing in ruining the industry considering i enjoy COD games and look forward to MW3...

I don't know about anyone else but i find that because CoD is a huge budget game with Activision backing it, that all these "clones" just try that little bit harder and it ends up giving us not just more games, but ones that had extra work put into them even if they were designed with CoD controls and physics and gameplay.

So uhh, how is it ruining the industry? They're only selling more games, it's only good. LustForSoul

BioWare's games, Uncharted, Transformers, Space Marine, Homefront, Battlefield, Gears of War, Halo, etc, etc, etc. The list is pretty much endless.DarkLink77

Errr, I could understand homefront but where do the others even fit into this? Also I know what the point of this thread is so don't make a list helping to prove it, I'm just questioning the OPs choice of cod clones.

Every day it seems I hear about how the industry is all CoD clones, or how every developer is boarding the FPS train.

I decided that I agree with that entirely, and began to warn my friends about the future of gaming. They was all like "nuh uh boo, there ain't too many CoD gamez comin out" (I'm boo, btw if anyone was confuzzled), but most of my friends are super casuals who only buy one game or just an iphone app each year. They think they're hardcore nerds, and edit photos that say "GEEK!1!!" in them (just so you have an idea of how anti-hardcore my friends are).

So I decided I would create a list of high rated games from Gamespot this year ranging 8.5 and above for use as troll material against my friends later when they tell me CoD isn't ruining the industry (I get real mad at them for ruining my favorite hobby, but they don't understand my passion).

Anyways I highlighted the CoD Clones / "FPS" games in red that have come out so far this year.

As you can see most every true gamer was right all along when it comes to CoD ruinin' the industry. So many CoD clones on this list it's not even funny!!!!!!

It's just amazing how right I was all along. My friends are going to be so shocked later when I show them.

How do you all feel about the industry? Is it headed towards another crash like in 1983? Is Activision evil? (The answer is yes, and if you say otherwise I'm reporting you).

Ly_the_Fairy

I don't like COD but it isn't all that bad. My biggest problem with it is the hand-holding BS terrible campaign and the laziness to never actually fix the multiplayer. The engine the game runs on is pretty good though. And it isn't really CODs fault. You can't fault a publisher/developer for taking advantage of something an outside party put into full force--DLC by MS.

Also by the OPs logic, COD is having a negative effect on the industry since all the high rated shooters this year are COD clones, according to the OP.

KZ3 is nothing like COD :evil:

And how many of those non-clones are going to bring the commercial success along the lines of CoD?foxhound_fox

Sarcasm detected, I see what you're doing, but you're doing it wrong. Instead of using scores (which nobody uses outside the interwebz), use sales and you'll see THAT'S where CoD and its clones are ruining the industry. Outside of a few exceptions, those games are selling well while the good scoring and different games' sales are suffering because of the peer pressure to buy those popular CoD games and their clones. If it wasn't for all of them, the good games from your list would sell better, and in turn we'd have more and a better variety of the good games. ;)

Bigboi500

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Sarcasm detected, I see what you're doing, but you're doing it wrong. Instead of using scores (which nobody uses outside the interwebz), use sales and you'll see THAT'S where CoD and its clones are ruining the industry. Outside of a few exceptions, those games are selling well while the good scoring and different games' sales are suffering because of the peer pressure to buy those popular CoD games and their clones. If it wasn't for all of them, the good games from your list would sell better, and in turn we'd have more and a better variety of the good games. ;)

Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Sarcasm detected, I see what you're doing, but you're doing it wrong. Instead of using scores (which nobody uses outside the interwebz), use sales and you'll see THAT'S where CoD and its clones are ruining the industry. Outside of a few exceptions, those games are selling well while the good scoring and different games' sales are suffering because of the peer pressure to buy those popular CoD games and their clones. If it wasn't for all of them, the good games from your list would sell better, and in turn we'd have more and a better variety of the good games. ;)

Bigboi500

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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Nope, seems like the developers of those other games are still in business, and on track to release future games. I don't get where this "suffering" comes into play. Did all the developers for the NES suffer because of Super Mario Bros sales? Did all Gameboy developers suffer because of Tetris sales? Did all PS2 developers suffer because of GTA sales?Ly_the_Fairy

It just sucks when some developers know they can make a bunch of crap like the latest Turok FPS and it will sell greatly so why bother making something different that will sell only a fraction of what some half-assed FPS will sell?

I think it just comes down to a lot of gamers not being open-minded to trying different things and peer pressure steering a lot of gamers into buying what their friends are playing instead of supporting smaller developers who would give us games with imagination and fresh ideas. That's what I worry about with CoD games coming out EVERY year and eating up the majority of sales in the market.

If people want to pay for an updated MW, let them.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Well obviously "ruined" is used in a hyperbole sense. Nothing is being ruined per se, but Activision's success is at the cost of other devs success. I just hope this FPS fad ends sooner rather than later.

Bigboi500

It just sucks when some developers know they can make a bunch of crap like the latest Turok FPS and it will sell greatly so why bother making something different that will sell only a fraction of what some half-assed FPS will sell?

I think it just comes down to a lot of gamers not being open-minded to trying different things and peer pressure steering a lot of gamers into buying what their friends are playing instead of supporting smaller developers who would give us games with imagination and fresh ideas. That's what I worry about with CoD games coming out EVERY year and eating up the majority of sales in the market.

Some people really missed the point of this thread. :/

timmy00

Because that point is improperly presented. In fact I don't even know why I'm posting here except to point out the glaring faults of this thread.

How is Killzone 3 a CoD clone? I've never understood that. I have both Black Ops and Killzone 3 and Killzone 3's experience is way different than that of Black Ops.

Hate to break it to you guys but every generation since the 90's has had it's "online FPS du jour."

- Quake (original Halo)

- CS/CSS (original CoD)

- MW2 (Cod + Vehicles + Teamwork)

Since then we've had dozens of series try to become the next online FPS champ

Now we even have a new category for online deathmatch : TPS

And co-op started to become popular in a huge way.

Think about it : People like working together in WoW to do dungerons.

And it's usually 5 man groups.

So why not skip the whole "MMORPG" part, and just have 5 man groups doing co-op, earning experience, finding new loot, etc. Basically WoW without the travel.

That's the trend now.

As far as CoD, it's a fine product, unfortunately in the hands of Activision it's gonna get milked harder than half and half.

They gonna try to turn it into a MMORPG subscription and the whole 9.

They are not ruining anything, mostly just ruining themselves and giving other series a chance to attract players.

Lots of FPS series out there have excellent military-style online.

And most of these games are dirt cheap to buy, and have very active communities and clans.

And I do want to say that the CoD complainers need to stop with the whining. CoD4 was easily one of the biggest and best games of this gen in multiplayer.

SPYDER0416

:lol: Let me guess: Call of Duty 4 was one of your first FPS games.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

BioWare's games, Uncharted, Transformers, Space Marine, Homefront, Battlefield, Gears of War, Halo, etc, etc, etc. The list is pretty much endless.GD1551

Errr, I could understand homefront but where do the others even fit into this? Also I know what the point of this thread is so don't make a list helping to prove it, I'm just questioning the OPs choice of cod clones.

The problem with your idea lies in the fact that you think only CoD is lowering the sales of other games. All game sales lower the sales of other games. Whether you buy Skyrim, Gears, Uncharted, CoD, Battlefield, Halo, Disgaea, Zelda, Batman, or whatever this year you are giving your money to one dev in favor of another.Ly_the_Fairy

Yeah, this is true. Every year of every gen smaller games have struggled to compete with the bigger boys, CoD in only one of many (the biggest one).

And as you proved, the influence of CoD in other games (made by competent devs)have been minimal at best, so it's a very good argument from any angle.

Ok, well I have a question for you. Did you buy Shogun 2: Total War, The Witcher 2, or Frozen Synapse earlier this year?Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Ok, well I have a question for you. Did you buy Shogun 2: Total War, The Witcher 2, or Frozen Synapse earlier this year?Bigboi500

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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] Ok, well I have a question for you. Did you buy Shogun 2: Total War, The Witcher 2, or Frozen Synapse earlier this year?Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Did you buy Disgaea 4, Hyperdimension Neptunia and Ar Tonelico 3?

Bigboi500

You said CoD lowers other developers chance of success, but then you also go on to say that you didn't buy every game this year either. I imagine this had to do with you putting your money towards the games of a few select developers, and not towards other games.

Hmmm, something seems awfully fishy about your argument that CoD is hurting developers when you don't even play CoD, and yet still aren't supporting all the developers out there...

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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"] So I'm going to assume your answer to my question is "No, I did not buy any of those games". What you're saying is that you are harming CD Projekt Red, Mode 7, and Creative Assembly just as much as someone who just buys CoD each year. Thanks a lot :(Ly_the_Fairy

You said CoD lowers other developers chance of success, but then you also go on to say that you didn't buy every game this year either. I imagine this had to do with you putting your money towards the games of a few select developers, and not towards other games.

Hmmm, something seems awfully fishy about your argument that CoD is hurting developers when you don't even play CoD, and yet still aren't supporting all the developers out there...