Colin Moriarty - "Journalist do as much as they can to sell games for Nintendo."

@charizard1605: Not as bad, doesn't mean good either. The Witcher III also is on the PC, where if you have the popper hardware, that isn't an issue, and if the console versions were anywhere near BotW bad, they deserved to be docked too. Anyway, the point is this game has plenty of flaws, and even though I don't think "it's about getting paid," I don't doubt for a second that BotW is getting an overabundance amount of praise, because it's a Zelda game. I'm 80 hours in, and so I could make a fat list myself, but that's not my job, it's those guys'.

Colin has a long standing history of being a douche to anyone who he does not agree with. He did it plenty at IGN, especially with the ME3 opinions, he got really snooty and dickish for a 4 minute rant video that just made things worse. And he did it plenty on Kinda Funny.

Hell, he just got fired from Kinda Funny for his general shittiness and borderline sociopathic tendency.

So it's not surprising really that he would immediately assume anyone who likes what he doesn't is some kind of tool. Sorry Colin, but it is in fact you who is being the tool, as you have always been.

I'm just going to leave it at that

• The Switch version of the game is as good or bad as the console versions of The Witcher 3 were
• It was the console versions of The Witcher 3 that got those scores and accolades
• The only objectively determinable flaw the game has is the framerate, which we have discussed, and which, judging by Bethesda, From, Rockstar, and CDPR games, is apparently not something critics take issue with. All other 'problems' are sbjective, and while you have not enjoyed a lot of the things the game does, others did, hence the scores
• 'I don't doubt for a second that BotW is getting an overabundance amount of praise, because it's a Zelda game' unless proven, this is a hypothesis. Zelda games have been criticized in the past, and after Skyward Sword, everyone was skeptical. The onus was on Nintendo to prove themselves, and they did

You didn't enjoy a lot of things the game did- that's fine, that's your opinion, but that's your opinion. Others, who rated it as highly as they did, did enjoy those things- that's their opinion. That doesn't mean that they were predisposed to rate the game higher any more than it implies bias or predisposition on your part.

• If that's true, then both deserved to be docked
• " "
• That's your hypothesis
• If you're going to hide behind "nothing can be proven," then there's nothing to discuss about anything; it also goes against your previous bullet point, because there are games that do get punished on technical issues. Saying that technical issues are forgivable isn't a universal truth.

It's not about "my lack of enjoyment." It's about recognizing that certain franchises (the ones you've mentioned for instance) get a pass on many issues, especially at launch, and Zelda happens to be one of them.

Who is this guy and why should I care?

@Renegade_Fury: I mean, a very compelling argument can be made that the horse controls and combat mechanics in the Witcher 3 - which incidentally comprise about 85% of the total actual gameplay - are at best average, meaning that there is no universe under which the game should be rated as high as it is. But it is, because to the critics (and most players) who played it, the issues either are not as stark, or irrelevant and the game transcends them. It is literally the same with Breath of the Wild- except here, you find yourself on the other side.

He's a very important gaming journalist.

That's really stretching it lol

Obviously because he loves Sony and so does Greg Miller. However, at least we can agree that Mr. Miller is a bigger dick than Colin for throwing him under the bus. Especially when Colin has been there when Greg was diagnose with cancer

@charizard1605: That makes sense, except that I'm not defending The Witcher III. You're the one bringing it up. If your argument was that I think the Witcher III deserved the praise it got, but not BotW, then you'd have a point.

I'm not arguing against you lol, I'm trying to show you that within the parameters of gaming critique being what it is, Breath of the Wild was not overrated any more than any other high rated game of the last decade was, which is the topic on hand. I bring up The Witcher 3 because I know that's a game you personally like. if you think that it, and Breath of the Wild, and The Last of Us, and GTA5, and so on, are all games that didn't deserve the praise they got, then sure, but then we get into an assessment of the review system as it stands (yes, it needs an overhaul). Working within the parameters of what the state of game critique is, Breath of the Wild did not get any more 'free passes' than any other similarly praised game in the last ten years or so has had- which, again, is the topic on hand.

Yup Greg caved to the pressure of the SJW's. Crazy that he turned on his supposed best friend over such a harmless tweet.

Being an important gaming journalist carries the same merit of being an important food critic.

i.e. no one cares.

So then you agree that BotW is overrated then? - That it's not this messiah to gaming, and that people like Jim Sterling don't need to burn at the stake because they lowered its metacritic score to 97%? :)

That's my only point, that this game is not this some sort of be all end all that's being heralded as; not whether it's receiving a disproportionate amount of praise compared to other highly rated games when they came out. As to whether BotW would get the same love if it were multiplat, probably not, because exclusives will always get bonus points, but because Zelda is a sacred cow, I do believe it's getting a pass, many of them at that. The review system is a broken and bias mess, and so my aim is just to show acknowledgment of BotW as being another one of the games that benefits from it.

I do not agree with that lol. As I have stated before, I legitimately believe this to be the best game I have ever played, and an evolution of the open world genre (the latter, at least, which can be proven). And I have never said Jim Sterling needs to be burned at the stake for anything, lol.

I wont go and say journalists actively try to sell games for Nintendo and Sony. But this guy said exactly what a friend of mine who spoke with GS people at E3 said. They grew up on these consoles and have a preference for them. Its natural human behavior and it is why humans are incapable of true objectivity. Our preferences and likes will always bleed into things like reviews.

While I laugh at Colin's playing a couple of hours of Zelda and saying it is no way a 98, I have heard others echo his point, "Welcome to 2008, Nintendo. This isn't anything new."

while i mostly agree with your post, i disagree with ME having mediocre gameplay. It's one of the best action/RPG/shooters out there with many different playstlyles. it literally shits all over the gameplay of every game you listed there and then some. I do agree the witcher, dragon age, uncharted 4, AC, CoD and such have medicore to shitty gameplay.

Nintendo makes a legitimately good game and people still try to find a reason to hate it.

The Same People that Praise Breath of the Wild also said that Star Fox Zero Sucked balls.

SFZ isn't a game but an experiment. Experiment to see how far they can go by selling you a piece of a turd.

At Least Star Fox Zero is a game compared to 1-2 Switch.

hahah true that.

It's all opinions. Every great game has people that over praise it and people that go out of their way to bash it. LoZ:BOTW is a legitimately great game. Who is this guy to tell people that they are overrating it? How does he know this? He sounds like an arrogant douchebag.

Persona 4 </3

Zelda bitchslapped Persona 4 into second place yo.

Maybe Persona 5 can clamber right back up tho

It's sad to see Colin leave the gaming industry, he was one of the few reasonable voices in an industry full of SJWs and closed minded leftists.

It's Colin Moriarty, a "journalist" whose head is so far up Sony's collective asses. The only thing consistent about him is his stance on a third party Nintendo (which he also revealed here).

From what I hear, he's just a cynical human being. Glad he's out of the Game Industry cause he clearly never liked it.

your opinion is wrong, but whatever persona 5 for 11/10

If you said you liked it for Mipha I may have been more inclined to agree

You can be cynical and be a good journalist, it requires a degree of scepticism to have a critical mindset in an industry that can kiss way too much ass.

Moriarty is an ass who burned one too many bridges.

Because no one can genuinely enjoy a Nintendo product without it being some conspiracy.

I guess all those game developers gushing all over Twitter are in on it too.

I was joking, lol.

Damn, I wish I could legitimately enjoy a new game enough to praise it to that type of level. :(

Even with Streets of Rage 2, I didn't start calling it the G.O.A.T until like 2008.

Haha, I'm just super excitable :p

Chaz has a new goat every week.

What different playstyles, the tech classes have the pretense of being stealth classes but genuine sneaking isn't an option, and the level design is straight forward chest high wall arenas. As far as your possibility space is concerned: you're dealing with enemies that use hitscan weapons, in fights that are a series of wack-a-mole combat where even on the higher difficulties you try to tank as much damage as you can, while unleashing on your enemies. Because your damage can regenerate, where as the damage done to them is permanent. Combat wise, in terms of the only one close to being a functional shooter, which are 2 and 3, your cool little powers are tied to a universal cool down, so it's not even like you can mix n match your powers in a cool way.

And we're talking pure game feel: Shephard's movement is robotic n stiff, and the gunplay itself is completely lacking. It's RPG elements are paper thin, in contrast a game like Human Revolution does the whole being a shooter with rpg elements better, by giving you more interesting choices to make in its possibility space, thanks in no short part to its level design.

And better gameplay than Divinity: Original Sin or something like Bayonetta? lol yeah okay.

This is the point I was trying to make... those 2 games scored higher than they probably should've because they have the Zelda name on them and are made by Nintendo. That's not to say that the games were rubbish, far from it (I really liked Twilight Princess). So you have to wonder, did some reviews of BOTW from some of the reviewers (not all), have their scores inflated because of the same thing. Yes BOTW is arguably a better game, but still... makes you wonder.

And again, I'm not bashing Zelda or hoping that it or Switch fail. That's ridiculous.

@hrt_rulz01: Doesn't work, i gave plausible explanations for both games- Twilight Princess is not overrated (I think it is, but you can objectively justify a 95 rating for that game), and Skyward Sword came out at a time when NFL games were scoring 90+ on Metacritic.

Agree to disagree I guess.

what are you trying to say about nfl games?

they suk

Wow, you're one angsty lemming.

lol Colin

The man is mentally not in a good place.

Which games get the generous treatment and which games don't has jack shit to do with which company they are from and more to do with how its being percieved up until release.

If Breath of the Wild was being marketed as Skyward 2 it would've gotten scores in the 7s EVEN if it was a 9 game. Tell me I'm wrong. Scores are very much influenced by trends and general attitude of the press/gaming "community" at any given time. How much it affects each individual title varies, but the current narrative circulating a game's release WILL have an unfair impact in how a game is recieved, positive or not.

This poor excuse of a human being singling out Nintendo is just a confirmation of his well known bias.

Is it surprising? I am 29, so a lot of these journalists grew up with me. We remember how awesome SNES, and N64 was. We remember being kind of disappointed with how the Gamecube was more of a niche console for a long time, and not competing very well with Sony and MSoft. For like 10 years, dope shit from Nintendo is few and far between, along with fact that they have not cultivated near the amount of new ips, or level of hardware as the other two brands, and pc. They just keep falling behind. So when a Zelda comes out and hits it outta the goddamn park, they nostalgasm all over the place, and the high lasts. I, along with a lot of people, are just not willing to wait 5-8 months for the feeling. The journalists have access to all the consoles, and all the big games. They want awesome ass Nintendo games again, so they hype in hopes people will change their minds about Nintendo. I root for them, but it seems like Nintendo's executives are allergic to competition and more money.

Lol, and as always you're in a constant state of butt hurtness. lol

Like I always tell ya, soak it in BH cream and put a sponge on it. :P

Colin is a contrarian. Whatever the popular consensus is he'll go the other way just because he thinks it makes him an original thinker. It doesn't, it makes him appear ignorant and petty. Oh, you hate this? I love it. Oh, you love this? I hate it. I know teenagers who behave this way and it doesn't make them better people. Not sure what Greg being fat has to do with it, he's professional, gets the job done. Colin frumps into work, frowns during the shows, and huffs and puffs when he disagrees. To show just how immature he is, he'll be the one claiming he's always right and has all the proof, and then in the same breath spout baseless and straight up crazy conspiracy theories about reviews. Especially in a time where Sony is clearly favored by the gaming media and Nintendo and Microsoft have been the whipping boys this whole time.

This is all just an elaborate way of saying he's a hypocritical jerk who's not half as smart as he thinks he is.

@mems_1224:

No he doesn't, he absolutely panned the PS4 pro to death.

@Bread_or_Decide: Docked points. How many points? How does this system even work? You realize scores aren't given with the idea that they're docking points along the way. It's the way they feel about a game after they're done with it"

This is sig worthy. And it backs up my stance that entertainment is subjective. If a human being is relying on feelings to review entertainment (I agree) then how can it ever be objective as every persons feelings are different and their own.

@charizard1605: Can you prove this 'pro Nintendo inflation'? Because unless you can, this is tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nonsense.

No, TP and SS don't deserve the scores they got in my opinion. In the critics' opinions, they did. That's all there is to it."

I disagree here char. Can I prove this 'pro Nintendo inflation' exists? No.

Can you prove it doesn't? This is the God dilemma. Until you can prove it doesn't or I can prove it does, there is nothing wrong with opinions siding for or against it.

I fear that from here until the end of time people will have to explain to other people that a ten does not mean a game is perfect. Sigh. "A TEN? BUT IT'S NOT PERFECT LOOK AT THOSE TEXTURES!"

Double sigh.