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#1 tormentos
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How in hell some 360 fans after all the crap they threw at sony for selling the PS3 at $600 and $500 and call it expensive are ok with this low spec over priced 720.? Where are the Hermits.? Yeah those who have been flaming the PS4 GPU to no end because it is no high end,where are they a $500 dollar 77XX GPU with DDR3,and no Hermit jump on this and scorch MS.? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29384662/if-xbox-720s-going-to-be-500-without-subscrip-the-ps4-is-going-to-be-bigtime- I see threads like this ^^ were suckers are already falling for MS strategy. Here is the true about the 720. Is a 1.2TF machine by leaks,that is 7770 level GPU which is $99 dollars to any joe gamer on PC,to MS in millions is like $25 dollars,the APU sony is using is more powerful and say to cost $85 dollars,this has to be even cheaper. It has DDR3 which is cheap,with ESRAM. If the 720 doesn't have a 7950 or 670 GPU it should in no way cost $500 dollars that is a joke,at $300 MS will lose little if anything on hardware on the 720 by leak specs,they loss $125 on each 360 at launch but the GPU was ahead of its time,and the 3 core CPU wasn't common in any way on PC,and still the unit was $399 and $299. The 720 at $500 with those specs is a down right robbery,is so much over priced is not even funny,MS is doing this so that people byte on the $299 and commit them self to xbox live,who ever pay $500 for a non live unit is a sucker,no wonder they have an internet require policy by leaks,few people will go for the $500 model if any. .
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Oh, it's you.
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And TC is living proof of this hypothesis. [spoiler] Didnt read btw. [/spoiler]
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How in hell some 360 fans after all the crap they threw at sony for selling the PS3 at $600 and $500 and call it expensive are ok with this low spec over priced 720.? Where are the Hermits.? Yeah those who have been flaming the PS4 GPU to no end because it is no high end,where are they a $500 dollar 77XX GPU with DDR3,and no Hermit jump on this and scorch MS.? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29384662/if-xbox-720s-going-to-be-500-without-subscrip-the-ps4-is-going-to-be-bigtime- I see threads like this ^^ were suckers are already falling for MS strategy. Here is the true about the 720. Is a 1.2TF machine by leaks,that is 7770 level GPU which is $99 dollars to any joe gamer on PC,to MS in millions is like $25 dollars,the APU sony is using is more powerful and say to cost $85 dollars,this has to be even cheaper. It has DDR3 which is cheap,with ESRAM. If the 720 doesn't have a 7950 or 670 GPU it should in no way cost $500 dollars that is a joke,at $300 MS will lose little if anything on hardware on the 720 by leak specs,they loss $125 on each 360 at launch but the GPU was ahead of its time,and the 3 core CPU wasn't common in any way on PC,and still the unit was $399 and $299. The 720 at $500 with those specs is a down right robbery,is so much over priced is not even funny,MS is doing this so that people byte on the $299 and commit them self to xbox live,who ever pay $500 for a non live unit is a sucker,no wonder they have an internet require policy by leaks,few people will go for the $500 model if any. .tormentos

Are all the above confirmed or are they yet still more rumors? I'm not interested on acting upon a rumor. Besides, we all know how to vote with our wallets if we're displeased.

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Anymore? has it ever existed here in SW?:lol:

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#6 OneInchMan99
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I'm sure there are many places one could go to experience common sense,system wars is not one of those places.

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Why write a butthurt essay based on rumors and speculation? :?

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Nice blog. Do you do birthday parties?

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#9 Ly_the_Fairy
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Common sense would tell me to not believe every rumor out there.

 

So it does exist. The TC, however, has none :(

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How in hell some 360 fans after all the crap they threw at sony for selling the PS3 at $600 and $500 and call it expensive are ok with this low spec over priced 720.? Where are the Hermits.? Yeah those who have been flaming the PS4 GPU to no end because it is no high end,where are they a $500 dollar 77XX GPU with DDR3,and no Hermit jump on this and scorch MS.? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29384662/if-xbox-720s-going-to-be-500-without-subscrip-the-ps4-is-going-to-be-bigtime- I see threads like this ^^ were suckers are already falling for MS strategy. Here is the true about the 720. Is a 1.2TF machine by leaks,that is 7770 level GPU which is $99 dollars to any joe gamer on PC,to MS in millions is like $25 dollars,the APU sony is using is more powerful and say to cost $85 dollars,this has to be even cheaper. It has DDR3 which is cheap,with ESRAM. If the 720 doesn't have a 7950 or 670 GPU it should in no way cost $500 dollars that is a joke,at $300 MS will lose little if anything on hardware on the 720 by leak specs,they loss $125 on each 360 at launch but the GPU was ahead of its time,and the 3 core CPU wasn't common in any way on PC,and still the unit was $399 and $299. The 720 at $500 with those specs is a down right robbery,is so much over priced is not even funny,MS is doing this so that people byte on the $299 and commit them self to xbox live,who ever pay $500 for a non live unit is a sucker,no wonder they have an internet require policy by leaks,few people will go for the $500 model if any. .tormentos

LOL you should take your own advice and get some common sense.  Common sense will tell you that fanboys are going to be hypocritical, ignore facts, play up rumors (or play them down) as much as possilble.  It's even worse being since it's on some anonymous discussion board where many people post simply to troll (and get attention).

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#11 Duckyindiana
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Why don't you cows just wait till the 21st so we can know whats happening?!
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#12 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Imma just leave this here

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#13 Jack-Burton
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Shit is it May 21st and you sir have already seen the MS announcement.
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#14 kraken2109
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So when did M$ confirm these specs?

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#15 clone01
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So when did M$ confirm these specs?

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They haven't. (I know the question is rhetorical) :P
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#16 Badosh
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"low spec" "over priced" We literally know nothing about the new xbox...
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#17 lostrib
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So much rumor

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#18 Blabadon
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Even if these rumors were true, it wouldn't take anything away from the PS3 launching as an overpriced PoS.
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#19 ninjapirate2000
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Lovely essay. Please do tell more. I say we bring back Captain Planet!

EARTH!

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#20 lostrib
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Lovely essay. Please do tell more. I say we bring back Captain Planet!

EARTH!

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Booo. Heart is not an element

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#21 faizan_faizan
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The console isn't even revealed. Calm the fvck down. We don't know the official specs yet.
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#22 tormentos
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Anymore? has it ever existed here in SW?:lol:

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That was my mistake to think it ever existed here.
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#23 lostrib
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[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Anymore? has it ever existed here in SW?:lol:

tormentos

That was my mistake to think it ever existed here.

^ no common sense

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[QUOTE="ninjapirate2000"]

Lovely essay. Please do tell more. I say we bring back Captain Planet!

EARTH!

lostrib

Booo. Heart is not an element

Dammit! I'm trying to save the planet from polluters!!
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#25 tormentos
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So when the rumor is sony will charge for online play,is valid to assume it without any indication coming from sony,but when all rumors point at MS,making a cheap console that requires always online connection for $500 dollars and $299 with subsidized plan it most be false and we have to wait,even that other threads are popping already comparing this scheme to the PS4 and assuming the PS4 will be $500. So is ok to assume the PS4 will be $500 out of nothing,and compare it with the $299 subsidize 720,but is not ok to scorch the 720 on those same terms based on what leaks say the console has inside.? People are a joke...:lol:
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#26 AmazonTreeBoa
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I don't get it. What do you mean "where are the hermits". WTF do we (hermits) have to do with this? This is a lemmings/microsoft thing and doesn't have crap to do with us.
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According to SW, I shouldn't have any games to play on my 360, but then I look at my backlog of 6 amazing games I've yet to play just sitting there on my shelf. SW is not for common sense. It is for poking whatever faction you want to bother with a stick and hope they get buthurt for the lulz. It certainly been fun poking cows with the P$4 charging for online play since its not out of the question and $ony could sure as hell use the revenue.

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So when the rumor is sony will charge for online play,is valid to assume it without any indication coming from sony,but when all rumors point at MS,making a cheap console that requires always online connection for $500 dollars and $299 with subsidized plan it most be false and we have to wait,even that other threads are popping already comparing this scheme to the PS4 and assuming the PS4 will be $500. So is ok to assume the PS4 will be $500 out of nothing,and compare it with the $299 subsidize 720,but is not ok to scorch the 720 on those same terms based on what leaks say the console has inside.? People are a joke...:lol:tormentos

Not really valid to assume that one either.

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Well speaking the truth no matter what people say both consoles are gonna be pretty much expensive, that sucks.
Gone are the days of 250-300 devices...

While supporting PS4 I can't deny the fact that M$/Sony and even Nintendo are here simply for the profit and are "scamming" people the best they can.
Of course some are over doing so all we can do is just support the lesser evil.

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#30 Blabadon
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rumor:tormentos
[QUOTE="tormentos"]rumors

Never a better time to say [QUOTE="tormentos"] People are a joke...:lol:

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#31 lostrib
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According to SW, I shouldn't have any games to play on my 360, but then I look at my backlog of 6 amazing games I've yet to play just sitting there on my shelf. SW is not for common sense. It is for poking whatever faction you want to bother with a stick and hope they get buthurt for the lulz. It certainly been fun poking cows with the P$4 charging for online play since its not out of the question and $ony could sure as hell use the revenue.

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6 game backlog? Lolz

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I didn't read/10
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common sense says that if you don't know how much it cost for a company to build a product you shouldn't comment on what an "appropriate" price is.  But as they say common sense isn't common.

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[QUOTE="tormentos"]How in hell some 360 fans after all the crap they threw at sony for selling the PS3 at $600 and $500 and call it expensive are ok with this low spec over priced 720.? Where are the Hermits.? Yeah those who have been flaming the PS4 GPU to no end because it is no high end,where are they a $500 dollar 77XX GPU with DDR3,and no Hermit jump on this and scorch MS.? http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29384662/if-xbox-720s-going-to-be-500-without-subscrip-the-ps4-is-going-to-be-bigtime- I see threads like this ^^ were suckers are already falling for MS strategy. Here is the true about the 720. Is a 1.2TF machine by leaks,that is 7770 level GPU which is $99 dollars to any joe gamer on PC,to MS in millions is like $25 dollars,the APU sony is using is more powerful and say to cost $85 dollars,this has to be even cheaper. It has DDR3 which is cheap,with ESRAM. If the 720 doesn't have a 7950 or 670 GPU it should in no way cost $500 dollars that is a joke,at $300 MS will lose little if anything on hardware on the 720 by leak specs,they loss $125 on each 360 at launch but the GPU was ahead of its time,and the 3 core CPU wasn't common in any way on PC,and still the unit was $399 and $299. The 720 at $500 with those specs is a down right robbery,is so much over priced is not even funny,MS is doing this so that people byte on the $299 and commit them self to xbox live,who ever pay $500 for a non live unit is a sucker,no wonder they have an internet require policy by leaks,few people will go for the $500 model if any. .

none of it's true untill its confirmed
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So when the rumor is sony will charge for online play,is valid to assume it without any indication coming from sony,but when all rumors point at MS,making a cheap console that requires always online connection for $500 dollars and $299 with subsidized plan it most be false and we have to wait,even that other threads are popping already comparing this scheme to the PS4 and assuming the PS4 will be $500. So is ok to assume the PS4 will be $500 out of nothing,and compare it with the $299 subsidize 720,but is not ok to scorch the 720 on those same terms based on what leaks say the console has inside.? People are a joke...:lol:tormentos

So, you're saying we should respond to idiotic speculation with more idiotic speculation? :?

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I don't get it. What do you mean "where are the hermits". WTF do we (hermits) have to do with this? This is a lemmings/microsoft thing and doesn't have crap to do with us.AmazonTreeBoa
Easy you people know hardware very well,and know the 720 with the leak specs is not worth $500 dollars,is basically a 7790 downclock with DDR3,you should be the first pointing this out,specially how critic many of you have been with the PS4.
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#37 CanYouDiglt
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Imma just leave this here

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Now that is some funny stuff right there.
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#38 tormentos
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So, you're saying we should respond to idiotic speculation with more idiotic speculation? :?Rocker6
:lol: Definitely... Come on most of the things about nexgen is speculation.
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#39 Bebi_vegeta
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I love how you say there's no common sense... because it fits your topic. Let's argument about rumours like they were true.

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common sense says that if you don't know how much it cost for a company to build a product you shouldn't comment on what an "appropriate" price is.  But as they say common sense isn't common.

NFJSupreme


yea like you know how much exactly it costs? All companies are over-charging you and that's a fact, it's just some are doing it for maybe 60% while others for 90%

Justify the price of any electronic device, can you? iphones are selling for about 700-800 brand new no contract... do you really think it costs that much for this device to be produced especially considering that they manufacture them in china?
Or ipads or PSvitas? Pretty much most of them are over charging and that's a fact.

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[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

common sense says that if you don't know how much it cost for a company to build a product you shouldn't comment on what an "appropriate" price is.  But as they say common sense isn't common.

V3rciS


yea like you know how much exactly it costs? All companies are over-charging you and that's a fact, it's just some are doing it for maybe 60% while others for 90%

Justify the price of any electronic device, can you? iphones are selling for about 700-800 brand new no contract... do you really think it costs that much for this device to be produced especially considering that they manufacture them in china?
Or ipads or PSvitas? Pretty much most of them are over charging and that's a fact.

 

Bring on the facts stats.

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#42 kuraimen
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Ever since lems entered the picture common sense, taste and gaming are going down the drain.
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#43 tormentos
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common sense says that if you don't know how much it cost for a company to build a product you shouldn't comment on what an "appropriate" price is.  But as they say common sense isn't common.

NFJSupreme
Common sense also tell me that when something is build using cheap ass hardware it should not be price as premium hardware. I learn that even more this gen maybe sony has me to spoiled for letting me have $850+ on hardware for $600... What sony offer me for $600 on 2006,else where were as much as $1,400 or more,what this rumors point to MS offering me $299 hardware for $500,there is no way in hell the xbox 720 is more than $300 or $350 on manufacturing parts...
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#44 AmazonTreeBoa
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Why write a butthurt essay based on rumors and speculation? :?

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Because he is lacking any signs of common sense.
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]So, you're saying we should respond to idiotic speculation with more idiotic speculation? :?tormentos
:lol: Definitely... Come on most of the things about nexgen is speculation.

True... but no sides should be claiming ownages using speculation.

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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I don't get it. What do you mean "where are the hermits". WTF do we (hermits) have to do with this? This is a lemmings/microsoft thing and doesn't have crap to do with us.tormentos
Easy you people know hardware very well,and know the 720 with the leak specs is not worth $500 dollars,is basically a 7790 downclock with DDR3,you should be the first pointing this out,specially how critic many of you have been with the PS4.

 

but bu bu  console =/= PC.  You say it all the time yet you want to directly compare console parts to PC parts.  Also there is more to the cost of building a console than just buying the parts.  There is R&D, paying someone to actually manufacture it, paying AMD for their CUSTOME parts, paying for shipping, the cost of the kinect, the cost of paying software developers, there are numerous expenses you have to factor in when it comes to actually making a console.  We aren't talking about some guy in his house ordering parts off newegg.  There is massive overhead.  One that you have no idea how much the actual cost to opperate is.  So how can you say that $500 is too much?

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#47 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Why write a butthurt essay based on rumors and speculation? :?

AmazonTreeBoa
Because he is lacking any signs of common sense.

Maybe but my point still stand,you don't even have to commit to the rumor,a basic if this is true MS can suck it will suffice,fallow by a short explanation of why.
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#48 V3rciS
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[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

common sense says that if you don't know how much it cost for a company to build a product you shouldn't comment on what an "appropriate" price is.  But as they say common sense isn't common.

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yea like you know how much exactly it costs? All companies are over-charging you and that's a fact, it's just some are doing it for maybe 60% while others for 90%

Justify the price of any electronic device, can you? iphones are selling for about 700-800 brand new no contract... do you really think it costs that much for this device to be produced especially considering that they manufacture them in china?
Or ipads or PSvitas? Pretty much most of them are over charging and that's a fact.



 

Bring on the facts stats.


omg... you pretend to be that stupid or you really are? Do you really think it costs more than 600 for an iphone 5?
It's less than fvcking 200. They're stealing from you and people like brainwashed sheep just walk into the stores annually and pay for this crap

http://live.wsj.com/video/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-an-iphone-5/AB87CAE1-6081-4063-93AA-3EF50F8E5B64.html#!AB87CAE1-6081-4063-93AA-3EF50F8E5B64

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#49 Plagueless
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Nobody is satisfied with anything because it's all speculation and rumors. Nothing matters before an official announcement.
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#50 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]I don't get it. What do you mean "where are the hermits". WTF do we (hermits) have to do with this? This is a lemmings/microsoft thing and doesn't have crap to do with us.tormentos
Easy you people know hardware very well,and know the 720 with the leak specs is not worth $500 dollars,is basically a 7790 downclock with DDR3,you should be the first pointing this out,specially how critic many of you have been with the PS4.

You still didn't answer my question. What does this have to do with hermits, why should us hermits care, and why should we be bothered with speaking up about something that has nothing to do with us?