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#151 RyviusRan
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The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

It is on the PC and so is Calamity Trigger.

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#152 Sailor_Enlil
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Espada12

Technically it is...



Well where? Where are the REVIEWS? Which store carries it?

Last I heard (PC Calamity Trigger), its release date kept getting pushed back. And worse, the official Japanese website for the PC version got taken down (usually a sign of cancellation).

And I'm referring to Continuum Shift. Not Calamity Trigger. After all, my favorite character is only availble in Continuum Shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2W08x86nFA

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#153 badtaker
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The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:

Blazblue: Continuum Shift

Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

yes this is on PC and

BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger will be releasing on August 20 in europe :lol:

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#154 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

Technically it is...



Well where? Where are the REVIEWS? Which store carries it?

Last I heard (PC Calamity Trigger), its release date kept getting pushed back. And worse, the official Japanese website for the PC version got taken down (usually a sign of cancellation).

And I'm referring to Continuum Shift. Not Calamity Trigger. After all, my favorite character is only availble in Continuum Shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2W08x86nFA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlazBlue:_Calamity_Trigger

A PC release is scheduled in ten days.

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#155 RyviusRan
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

Technically it is...



Well where? Where are the REVIEWS? Which store carries it?

Last I heard (PC Calamity Trigger), its release date kept getting pushed back. And worse, the official Japanese website for the PC version got taken down (usually a sign of cancellation).

And I'm referring to Continuum Shift. Not Calamity Trigger. After all, my favorite character is only availble in Continuum Shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2W08x86nFA

It's out there if you look.

Also there is barely any difference between the games.

They did nerf V-13 though.

I am playing Calamity Trigger on the PC right now.

FFFFUUUUUUUU

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#156 Sailor_Enlil
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

RyviusRan

It is on the PC and so is Calamity Trigger.



Nice try but the Arcade Cabinet doesn't count. Where's the home version? And how do you get to play Makoto Nanaya (a DLC character)?

Well whatever, the PC version of Calamity Trigger (if it does exist), is not available in my locality (SE Asia, which gets just about the same release dates as the US). Nor is anyone here interested now that Continuum Shift is the rage.

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[QUOTE="Metroid_Other_M"]the point is that pc gamers keep comparing pc's to the "crappy-outdated" consoles and to me it's not a fair comparison. that's it. games can be compared yes, but stating Pc gaming > console gaming is still an opinion, unless you're talking about hardware, which again it does not make any sense to compare an upgradable paltform with othere that are not. skrat_01
How is it all an opinion? X game is better on the PC as users can create their own content and expand from what is there; this increases the re playability of the game, adds depth and fixes former issues. The PC platform has a variety of input options, not forcing a standardized layout; this does fall under hardware however is blatantly an advantage etc.

we should just say little big planet is crappy, because user tools and user made content dont count.
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#158 Mystic-G
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

Technically it is...



Well where? Where are the REVIEWS? Which store carries it?

Last I heard (PC Calamity Trigger), its release date kept getting pushed back. And worse, the official Japanese website for the PC version got taken down (usually a sign of cancellation).

And I'm referring to Continuum Shift. Not Calamity Trigger. After all, my favorite character is only availble in Continuum Shift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2W08x86nFA

You can play it on PC, just not legally. :P And if you wanna pull an exclusive argument then that's a game you don't wanna play.

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#159 aia89
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sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

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#160 edinsftw
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sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

aia89

Its the internet.....with l33t h4x you can have everything you ever wanted...even social security

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#161 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

aia89

It doesn't matter if it knocks a bunch of titles off the exclusive list.

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#162 RyviusRan
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[QUOTE="RyviusRan"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

It is on the PC and so is Calamity Trigger.



Nice try but the Arcade Cabinet doesn't count. Where's the home version? And how do you get to play Makoto Nanaya (a DLC character)?

It is on the PC I just showed you a screenshot....

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#163 badtaker
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sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

aia89
Just google it :P
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#164 Sailor_Enlil
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[QUOTE="aia89"]

sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

edinsftw

Its the internet.....with l33t h4x you can have everything you ever wanted...even social security



Well better watch out before the Legal Eagles come down on you. I'm not taking that risk.

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#165 waltefmoney
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Did you pirate it? If so, you're helping the PC's case a great deal! Keep it up!

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#166 RyviusRan
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sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

aia89

It's been out for a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMgGG4v3Y0k&feature=player_embedded

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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="aia89"]

sorry, but where the hell did you get Blazblue for Pc if it's not even out yet?

Sailor_Enlil

Its the internet.....with l33t h4x you can have everything you ever wanted...even social security



Well better watch out before the Legal Eagles come down on you. I'm not taking that risk.

I dont pirate or hack, i know how to, but i dont so ill be fine..lol

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Did you pirate it? If so, you're helping the PC's case a great deal! Keep it up!

waltefmoney

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

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#169 Mystic-G
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How does BlazBlue affect any part of this topic's discussion anyway?

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#170 edinsftw
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How does BlazBlue affect any part of this topic's discussion anyway?

Mystic-G

PS3 fanboy tellin us we dont got some crappy game...then finding out we do

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#171 badtaker
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

How does BlazBlue affect any part of this topic's discussion anyway?

edinsftw

PS3 fanboy tellin us we dont got some crappy game...then finding out we do

:lol: then crying of character
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#172 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Did you pirate it? If so, you're helping the PC's case a great deal! Keep it up!

Sheppard212

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

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#173 Sailor_Enlil
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Its the internet.....with l33t h4x you can have everything you ever wanted...even social security

edinsftw



Well better watch out before the Legal Eagles come down on you. I'm not taking that risk.

I dont pirate or hack, i know how to, but i dont so ill be fine..lol

1. First, it's not a legitimate acquisition. Pirate Bay anyone?
2. It requires a specific hardware configuration (eg reports are it will only save data on Drive D:, and resolutions are fixed at either 640x480 or 1280x720).
3. It would also lack the goodies found in the home retail version (eg. Story Mode, DLCs, etc).

At the end of the day, not worth it. I'll stick with my PS3 version like other law abiding consumers do.

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#174 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="RyviusRan"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

The first poster said it well. It's the GAMES.

And for me, this is the current game to play and has taken most of my gaming time:



Is thison the PC? No? See ya!

Sailor_Enlil

It is on the PC and so is Calamity Trigger.



Nice try but the Arcade Cabinet doesn't count. Where's the home version? And how do you get to play Makoto Nanaya (a DLC character)?

Well whatever, the PC version of Calamity Trigger (if it does exist), is not available in my locality (SE Asia, which gets just about the same release dates as the US). Nor is anyone here interested now that Continuum Shift is the rage.

Facepalm. PC Games are universal? "cant get in my region" :lol: easy ways around that.

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#175 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Did you pirate it? If so, you're helping the PC's case a great deal! Keep it up!

waltefmoney

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

Yet the PC market is still thriving. Next!

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#176 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

Its the internet.....with l33t h4x you can have everything you ever wanted...even social security

Sailor_Enlil



Well better watch out before the Legal Eagles come down on you. I'm not taking that risk.

I dont pirate or hack, i know how to, but i dont so ill be fine..lol

1. First, it's not a legitimate acquisition. Pirate Bay anyone?
2. It requires a specific hardware configuration (eg reports are it will only save data on Drive D:, and resolutions are fixed at either 640x480 or 1280x720).
3. It would also lack the goodies found in the home retail version (eg. Story Mode, DLCs, etc).

At the end of the day, not worth it. I'll stick with my PS3 version like other law abiding consumers do.

First of all here is pirate basics:

You can get all parts of a game no matter what.

The resolution is not limited...i have no idea where the hell u got that one.

They also crack the DLC.

Also, you just accused every person who uses a computer of not abiding by the law

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#177 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

Sheppard212

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

Yet the PC market is still thriving. Next!

Does that mean we should just ignore piracy in general? Developers don't. Which brings us to another problem PC gaming has - DRM. Some of the games were seriously injured by the draconian DRM behind them. Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed 2, BioShock. Or is that just another thing that should just be ignored as a PC con?

edinsftw, have you ever emulated a game? That's illegal too.

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[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Did you pirate it? If so, you're helping the PC's case a great deal! Keep it up!

waltefmoney

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

PS2,wii,360 have huge piracy if you took a look at the number of consoles sold and this will be getting worse day by day. if 360 consoles sold 100 millions don't expect halo to sold 10-15 infact lt will sell much lower than that
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#179 Sailor_Enlil
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Well better watch out before the Legal Eagles come down on you. I'm not taking that risk.

edinsftw

I dont pirate or hack, i know how to, but i dont so ill be fine..lol

1. First, it's not a legitimate acquisition. Pirate Bay anyone?
2. It requires a specific hardware configuration (eg reports are it will only save data on Drive D:, and resolutions are fixed at either 640x480 or 1280x720).
3. It would also lack the goodies found in the home retail version (eg. Story Mode, DLCs, etc).

At the end of the day, not worth it. I'll stick with my PS3 version like other law abiding consumers do.

First of all here is pirate basics:

You can get all parts of a game no matter what.

The resolution is not limited...i have no idea where the hell u got that one.

They also crack the DLC.

Also, you just accused every person who uses a computer of not abiding by the law



Can you point out where I said EVERY PC user? (eg Quake4)

Resolution limits - saw it in the readme on the torrent in TPB, and on emulatorforums discussing it.

And you just used the big-no-no word - CRACK. Developers and publishers aren't going to be happy with that.

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#180 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

waltefmoney

Yet the PC market is still thriving. Next!

Does that mean we should just ignore piracy in general? Developers don't. Which brings us to another problem PC gaming has - DRM. Some of the games were seriously injured by the draconian DRM behind them. Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed 2, BioShock. Or is that just another thing that should just be ignored as a PC con?

Only assasins creed 2 DRM is really bad...most you just have to activate. Ubisoft games dont sell well on PC because all of them are quite simple and dumbed down honestly...been goin downhill since the first prince of persia

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#181 locopatho
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

Sheppard212

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

Yet the PC market is still thriving. Next!

Don't simply dismiss piracy. It's a filthy practice. Whether on console or PC.
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

Sheppard212

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

Yet the PC market is still thriving. Next!

the consoles may have less piracy, well except psp. But the consoles have other things to worry about, used game sales and rentals take a big chunk out of profits and are 100% legal and without consequence. My local gamestop has 75% used games, mostly for only a few bucks cheaper than new.
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#183 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

Tell that to Asia and Europe. Anyway, your argument has more holes in it than the Soviet nuclear power problem. I'm not even going to start with you because you're as hard headed as the OP, albeit more intelligent.

badtaker

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

PS2,wii,360 have huge piracy if you took a look at the number of consoles sold and this will be getting worse day by day. if 360 consoles sold 100 millions don't expect halo to sold 10-15 infact lt will sell much lower than that

So the bigger the install base, the smaller amount of copies sold? I really don't get that logic.

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#184 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

I dont pirate or hack, i know how to, but i dont so ill be fine..lol

1. First, it's not a legitimate acquisition. Pirate Bay anyone?
2. It requires a specific hardware configuration (eg reports are it will only save data on Drive D:, and resolutions are fixed at either 640x480 or 1280x720).
3. It would also lack the goodies found in the home retail version (eg. Story Mode, DLCs, etc).

At the end of the day, not worth it. I'll stick with my PS3 version like other law abiding consumers do.

Sailor_Enlil

First of all here is pirate basics:

You can get all parts of a game no matter what.

The resolution is not limited...i have no idea where the hell u got that one.

They also crack the DLC.

Also, you just accused every person who uses a computer of not abiding by the law



Can you point out where I said EVERY PC user? (eg Quake4)

Resolution limits - saw it in the readme on the torrent in TPB, and on emulatorforums discussing it.

And you just used the big-no-no word - CRACK. Developers and publishers aren't going to be happy with that.

No-no word? lol

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#185 badtaker
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[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

What do you mean? Piracy is a serious issue and one that has been plaguing PC gaming for years. And yes, consoles also have piracy, but compared to PC piracy it's like a pebble next to a mountain.

waltefmoney

PS2,wii,360 have huge piracy if you took a look at the number of consoles sold and this will be getting worse day by day. if 360 consoles sold 100 millions don't expect halo to sold 10-15 infact lt will sell much lower than that

So the bigger the install base, the smaller amount of copies sold? I really don't get that logic.

think of PS2 and Wii then.
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#186 waltefmoney
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edinsftw, if I remember correctly, Mass Effect on PC was limited to 3 installs. How is that not bad?

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#187 Sailor_Enlil
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

First of all here is pirate basics:

You can get all parts of a game no matter what.

The resolution is not limited...i have no idea where the hell u got that one.

They also crack the DLC.

Also, you just accused every person who uses a computer of not abiding by the law

edinsftw



Can you point out where I said EVERY PC user? (eg Quake4)

Resolution limits - saw it in the readme on the torrent in TPB, and on emulatorforums discussing it.

And you just used the big-no-no word - CRACK. Developers and publishers aren't going to be happy with that.

No-no word? lol



Indeed. Why else are some developers resorting to DRM?

Oh and I found this screenshot of someone trying to run hacked ArcadeBlazblue on his PC:
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5776/62813146.png
I wonder why the screen looks like that?

And here's another with a slightly less severe problem, but the aspect ratio is wayyy off:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5908/blazv.jpg

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#188 edinsftw
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edinsftw, if I remember correctly, Mass Effect on PC was limited to 3 installs. How is that not bad?

waltefmoney

Uh...i installed it about 7 times so i dont know lol ( 4 dif machines)

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#189 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"] PS2,wii,360 have huge piracy if you took a look at the number of consoles sold and this will be getting worse day by day. if 360 consoles sold 100 millions don't expect halo to sold 10-15 infact lt will sell much lower than thatbadtaker

So the bigger the install base, the smaller amount of copies sold? I really don't get that logic.

think of PS2 and Wii then.

Wii has sold 73.97 million, 360 has sold 41.7, yet piracy on the 360 is much, much, much bigger than on the Wii. How do you explain that?

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#191 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

So the bigger the install base, the smaller amount of copies sold? I really don't get that logic.

waltefmoney

think of PS2 and Wii then.

Wii has sold 73.97 million, 360 has sold 41.7, yet piracy on the 360 is much, much, much bigger than on the Wii. How do you explain that?

wii doesnt have much worth stealing thats how

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#192 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="badtaker"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

So the bigger the install base, the smaller amount of copies sold? I really don't get that logic.

waltefmoney

think of PS2 and Wii then.

Wii has sold 73.97 million, 360 has sold 41.7, yet piracy on the 360 is much, much, much bigger than on the Wii. How do you explain that?

piracy on the wii is huge, its one of the easiest consoles to circumvent.

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#193 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

edinsftw, if I remember correctly, Mass Effect on PC was limited to 3 installs. How is that not bad?

edinsftw

Uh...i installed it about 7 times so i dont know lol ( 4 dif machines)

It was 3 installs per PC, I think. They dropped it a year later, though.

TerrorRizzing, but it's not as big as 360 piracy. Which is what I meant by saying his logic is flawed.

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#194 Filthybastrd
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You want to know what's really stupid?

Bickering about miniscule differences in graphics between two consoles that are very very similar in power.

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#195 TerrorRizzing
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

Can you point out where I said EVERY PC user? (eg Quake4)

Resolution limits - saw it in the readme on the torrent in TPB, and on emulatorforums discussing it.

And you just used the big-no-no word - CRACK. Developers and publishers aren't going to be happy with that.

Sailor_Enlil

No-no word? lol



Indeed. Why else are some developers resorting to DRM?

Oh and I found this screenshot of someone trying to run hacked ArcadeBlazblue on his PC:
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5776/62813146.png
I wonder why the screen looks like that?

then why cant I just copy a xbox game and play it? Whjy is ea starting to charge people for online portions? Why do they keep trying to find ways to nickle and dime people who already own the games?

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#196 TerrorRizzing
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You want to know what's really stupid?

Bickering about miniscule differences in graphics between two consoles that are very very similar in power.

Filthybastrd
this the ps3 and xbox 360 are almost the same damn thing. They even have almost all the same games.
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="locopatho"]This is Gamespot, of course all I care about is games :? As for your point about PC not having a corporation, that just means no royalties, so games should be cheaper to make? How are consoles holding back the platform with cheaper dev costs and higher install base? Don't call me a troll, I only wish to discuss :)

In regard to differences in development there are a large amount of factors. You don't simply pay royalties to a company like Microsoft, you have to go through their own approval processes. This is both a costly thing to do, and very time consuming; I have heard first hand accounts of approval processes absolutely killing the pace of game development. To make things even more joyful updates through the online networks also have to go through this approval process, and naturally the distribution networks completely change; you can't simply host a game yourself, instead you are always working through a middleman. Which is why the middle ground for console development is non-existent. You either have lower budget smaller arcade titles, or triple A titles; you rarely have titles than can strike a middle ground in terms of budget, production and distribution. Naturally with each generation development costs rise even further, next generation is going to be even worse; development kits rise in costs, percentages taken away grow, expenses in approval grow.

All makes sense, not saying it's a good system, what I'm asking is how come even with all that most big name devs are going multiplat? People say consoles hold back PC, how is this possible if PCs are so much more powerful and cheaper and easier and more open? Why not make Crysis 2 a massive PC exclusive and push the boundaries of gaming further?

Because Cryengine 2 was a failure, no one really used it because most devs want a multiplat engine. So Crytek did just that and with Cryengine 3 they are trying to make the best multiplat engine there is, of coarse they need to show an example of it.
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#198 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]In regard to differences in development there are a large amount of factors. You don't simply pay royalties to a company like Microsoft, you have to go through their own approval processes. This is both a costly thing to do, and very time consuming; I have heard first hand accounts of approval processes absolutely killing the pace of game development. To make things even more joyful updates through the online networks also have to go through this approval process, and naturally the distribution networks completely change; you can't simply host a game yourself, instead you are always working through a middleman. Which is why the middle ground for console development is non-existent. You either have lower budget smaller arcade titles, or triple A titles; you rarely have titles than can strike a middle ground in terms of budget, production and distribution. Naturally with each generation development costs rise even further, next generation is going to be even worse; development kits rise in costs, percentages taken away grow, expenses in approval grow.SAGE_OF_FIRE
All makes sense, not saying it's a good system, what I'm asking is how come even with all that most big name devs are going multiplat? People say consoles hold back PC, how is this possible if PCs are so much more powerful and cheaper and easier and more open? Why not make Crysis 2 a massive PC exclusive and push the boundaries of gaming further?

Because Cryengine 2 was a failure, no one really used it because most devs want a multiplat engine. So Crytek did just that and with Cryengine 3 they are trying to make the best multiplat engine there is, of coarse they need to show an example of it.

yea...and im pretty sure its gonna be better than every other one...if you seen the mods, you know cryengine 2 could make almost any genre of game

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#199 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

No-no word? lol

TerrorRizzing



Indeed. Why else are some developers resorting to DRM?

Oh and I found this screenshot of someone trying to run hacked ArcadeBlazblue on his PC:
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5776/62813146.png
I wonder why the screen looks like that?

then why cant I just copy a xbox game and play it? Whjy is ea starting to charge people for online portions? Why do they keep trying to find ways to nickle and dime people who already own the games?

Because it's illegal, still. Even if EA charges 300$ per DLC, it's their own right. They produced the game, they decide how much money they're charging for it.

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#200 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"]

[QUOTE="Sailor_Enlil"]

Indeed. Why else are some developers resorting to DRM?

Oh and I found this screenshot of someone trying to run hacked ArcadeBlazblue on his PC:
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5776/62813146.png
I wonder why the screen looks like that?

waltefmoney

then why cant I just copy a xbox game and play it? Whjy is ea starting to charge people for online portions? Why do they keep trying to find ways to nickle and dime people who already own the games?

Because it's illegal, still. Even if EA charges 300$ per DLC, it's their own right. They produced the game, they decide how much money they're charging for it.

Do you know what supply and demand is? Sure, EA can charge three hundred for some content, but sicne no one will buy it, it's a pointless endeavor.

Piracy is wrong, sure. No one is debating that. The PC can emulate the other consoles, with a few exeptions, fairly well thus removing the need for the consoles to an extent...unless your game isn't able to be emulated yet.

But if you want more out of a developer or manufacturer, always buy it from them instead of lifting a digital liscense.