Conclusion of "What should Killzone 3 do to beat Halo Reach"

Well I'm not a lemming, and neither favouring anything but I don't get why people are placing Halo Reach as the benchmark of fps. What is so great about it ? I'm not saying that it is just a mediocre game, it is good infact AWESOME but not a "BEST FPS EVERMATERIAL".(only talking about single player experience)
So to all those people (with no offense :P )who think that Halo reach is the best ever then please tellSony that what should they do to make Killzone 3 "A Halo Reach Killer"
Here is my suggestion to them.....just change the name of Killzone 3 into Halo :D,and I m sure people will love it as heavens!!
and on a side note, I personally think that Bioshock had a better single player experience as compared to halo reach.I would give Halo reach campaign 8.5/10 while to bioshock I ll not hesitate to give it 9+ points from 10.

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Most of the people here said that Halo is one of the best fps because it has:-

1)One of the best create map-game-character stuff i.e. Forge.
2)The levels of Halo are made in such a manner that they have a lot of replay value.
3)There are many vehicles and as well as terrific weapons.
4)Its matchmaking facility is the best one to date.
5)It has good campaign which keeps its pace steady,not dwelling the player into vapidness.(though I believe it has some dull levels)
6)Bungie is really very good on Music.
7)Split screen enhances its charm.(no doubt)

And here are the cons of Halo(according to people):-

1)A weak plot when considering a story.
2)Characters are not very much memorable.
3)There is not any Real Boss fight neither is any Real Nemesis to deal with.
4)Some people also claim that Halo universe has no life as compared toKillzone.


Sowould takingthe pros ofHalo and avoiding the cons of it,make K3 the best FPS ? (ofcourse with being original).

i think killzone 2 is awesome but...................

its not halo. and i am glad. killzone has its own feel and i like the way the multiplayer is set up with the different objectives. i just want them to expand on what they have done and try their best to not be like halo.,

Local Multiplayer (4-Player Split-screen versus, 2 player split-screen co-op, both off and online)

4-player Co-Op Firefight with Immense Customization

Large amounts of Gameplay Modes (Invasion, Infection, Stockpile)

Forge Mode or Similar

Theater Mode or Similar

Bungie.net Integration

sure. change the name if you want.

but Killzone 2 would still be a feature-lacking FPS. no LAN, no split-screen, not a bit of co-op;)

without even mentioning the rest.

Be good? Lulz, I kid.

The Reach campaign was fantastic, though lacked in some key areas. If you played it, you likely know what i'm referring to. Killzone needs to do away with the "Hurr Durr" swearing every 5 seconds (seriously, it bugged me throughout Killzone 2).

As for the multiplayer, i'm not sure. I enjoyed Killzone 2's multiplayer, and I enjoy Reach's. I have no idea what it would need to do :?

Killing Rico would be a good start.SpiritOfFire117

i actually despised bioshock... i beat the entire game, and cannot fathom why people like this game.

My favorite part was the pipe dream mini game when hacking....

I much preferred reach's campaign... but in terms of campaign alone i would say the darkness is my favorite fps this gen.

but i think as an overall package, reach is certainly my favorite fps this gen... if not of all time.

Actually have co-op

Have some features that halo reach has (such as a hoard/firefight mode, more social networking,, etc).

Have workable controls.

They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachbigboss5ak

I surprisingly love swat. I hate having to whittle down shields to get the kill. It's also the reason I love Snipers.

Be good? Lulz, I kid.

The Reach campaign was fantastic, though lacked in some key areas. If you played it, you likely know what i'm referring to. Killzone needs to do away with the "Hurr Durr" swearing every 5 seconds (seriously, it bugged me throughout Killzone 2).

As for the multiplayer, i'm not sure. I enjoyed Killzone 2's multiplayer, and I enjoy Reach's. I have no idea what it would need to do :?

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]Killing Rico would be a good start.Doom_HellKnight

Why people want always to see a Halo Killer? Let it be, no ps3 exclusive will be able to surpass Halo popularity. Miroku32

It doesn't have to beat Halo.. But I do think it's time for some co-op in killzone.killerfist

[QUOTE="Miroku32"]Why people want always to see a Halo Killer? Let it be, no ps3 exclusive will be able to surpass Halo popularity. Revolution_Ali

which the Halo franchise has Killzone beat in by miles.

it's going to take a few 343 flops to change that.

Reach's middle stages were thronged with boredom, is not it ? I just rushed to complete those middle levels, they lost their essence.But the first 3,4 opening levels of Reach were fantastic, a tremendous display of art :). But I believe that killzone 2 had more life(animations,destructions) in it as compared to Reach.Revolution_Ali

It wasn't, but I actually agree with that. I hated the "Go to and do this..." missions.

The part i'm talking about mostly is the [spoiler] complete lack of foreboding when you find out Reach is being invaded by the Covenant. It was kind of like "Here we are... Whoops, the Covenant are here... We're being invaded... Winter Contingency". It could have been fleshed out a little more [/spoiler]

co-op would be nice.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachlundy86_4

I surprisingly love swat. I hate having to whittle down shields to get the kill. It's also the reason I love Snipers.

my only problem with shields is headshots arent rewarded over body shots like they are with health. If they made headshots do 2x damage on shields i think swat would be an unnecessary mode. I actually really like the regenerating aspect of shields.

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachmarkinthedark

I surprisingly love swat. I hate having to whittle down shields to get the kill. It's also the reason I love Snipers.

my only problem with shields is headshots arent rewarded over body shots like they are with health. If they made headshots do 2x damage on shields i think swat would be an unnecessary mode.

True enough. And one that I find a shame, especially when playing Slayer with DMR's. I find taking down the shield more of a hassle than anything else.

More changes in environments, better story telling, map editor, better ranking system...hoosier7

[QUOTE="hoosier7"]More changes in environments, better story telling, map editor, better ranking system...Revolution_Ali

I thought this was a KZ vs Halo thread?

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachlundy86_4

I surprisingly love swat. I hate having to whittle down shields to get the kill. It's also the reason I love Snipers.

[QUOTE="Revolution_Ali"] Reach's middle stages were thronged with boredom, is not it ? I just rushed to complete those middle levels, they lost their essence.But the first 3,4 opening levels of Reach were fantastic, a tremendous display of art :). But I believe that killzone 2 had more life(animations,destructions) in it as compared to Reach.lundy86_4

It wasn't, but I actually agree with that. I hated the "Go to and do this..." missions.

[QUOTE="Revolution_Ali"][QUOTE="hoosier7"]More changes in environments, better story telling, map editor, better ranking system...waltefmoney

I thought this was a KZ vs Halo thread?

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachbigboss5ak

I surprisingly love swat. I hate having to whittle down shields to get the kill. It's also the reason I love Snipers.

As i posted earlier it would be alot better and more skilled based if headshots did 2x damage on shields... 3 headshot kills with a DRM seems like the perfect balance to me.

I love the shields, just hate that headshots arent rewarded unless you are using a sniper.

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[QUOTE="Revolution_Ali"] Halor reach has not a best story I think.Infact Halo series is quite weak in this plot when you see games like MGS,RE,FF,ZELDA etcRevolution_Ali

I thought this was a KZ vs Halo thread?

absolutely nothing. enough twictch based shooters out there already. So with that being said. Killzone should just stick to what made it Killzone (minus the unnecessary cursing)

It is more about why halo is good and what should other FPS do to meet its merit. :PRevolution_Ali

Has to score a 10.

games are nothing a like lol.... both are great though

kz2 was a great game and one of my fav fps this gen...GG just needs to improve the formula... having online co-op modes / new ompetitive mp modes is definately a plus.. as would be SP campaign co-op :)

I thought KZ2 was better than Halo Reach so it doesn't have to do a thing. I will play KZ3 and make a judgement and compare it to Reach when i have it in my hands this March.

They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachbigboss5ak

If that happen on Killzone 3 i offically don't buy it,having to put a clip and half of bullets is not fun in any way or enjoyable,let me shoot you twice in the face to see if you live to tell the story.

That is why Halo players complain so much about MW,because MW2 you don't need to put 40 bullets to kill some one,imagine a war game like MW2 in which you need to spend a clip and half shooting some one to kill him,it would be a dissaster,there would probably be a nuke trown in each game.

Man, Killzone 3 doesn't need to beat Reach in any way. When people say "beat", what exactly do they mean? Sales? That's not happening. Critical reception? It's possible, but not measurable right now. I know it's gonna be a kick-ass game though! Probably my favorite shooter this gen even.

I thought KZ2 was better than Halo Reach so it doesn't have to do a thing. I will play KZ3 and make a judgement and compare it to Reach when i have it in my hands this March.

xOMGITSJASONx

Hey, can you check your PM box? :) You're getting KZ3 in March? But it comes out in February! :P

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachEltormo

If that happen on Killzone 3 i offically don't buy it,having to put a clip and half of bullets is not fun in any way or enjoyable,let me shoot you twice in the face to see if you live to tell the story.

That is why Halo players complain so much about MW,because MW2 you don't need to put 40 bullets to kill some one,imagine a war game like MW2 in which you need to spend a click and half shooting some one,it would be a dissaster,there would probably be a nuke trown in each game.

Lol, after beating all levels on Halo Reach on Legendary alone i can tell you that you are correct. I won't buy KZ3 if you have to shoot a person 30 times in the head like i did every Elite in the campaign lol. KZ2 is the best FPS this gen imo cause its hardcore. you get shot.. you die.. thats it. No jumping 30 feet in the air shooting the guy in the head 20 times to kill him in a Team Slayer match. KZ3 has mechs and jet packs. As long as you have to shoot a person with two bullits he dies i am happy lol.

I doubt it can. There's just too much to compete with in Reach. Forge, Multiplayer, Firefight, Co-op, Campaign Scoring, Theater, Custom Games, etc, etc.

Man, Killzone 3 doesn't need to beat Reach in any way. When people say "beat", what exactly do they mean? Sales? That's not happening. Critical reception? It's possible, but not measurable right now. I know it's gonna be a kick-ass game though! Probably my favorite shooter this gen even.

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I thought KZ2 was better than Halo Reach so it doesn't have to do a thing. I will play KZ3 and make a judgement and compare it to Reach when i have it in my hands this March.

Episode_Eve

Hey, can you check your PM box? :) You're getting KZ3 in March? But it comes out in February! :P

I was thinking about Crysis 2 or somthing lol. So many games being released the first 4 months next year its ridiculous. I check your pms bro.

I doubt it can. There's just too much to compete with in Reach. Forge, Multiplayer, Firefight, Co-op, Campaign Scoring, Theater, Custom Games, etc, etc.

DarkLink77