Conclusion of "What should Killzone 3 do to beat Halo Reach"

They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachbigboss5ak

killzone 3 tagline remember helghan im sure halo fans won't mind :P

Putting halo against killzone is like putting Iron Man against Robin. Plus killzone is not just a PS3's version of halo. it has its own feel and gameplay.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]They should add shields in some form in the multiplayer that would be a start. I just hated in kz2 where you get shot twice and die. Its also the reason why i hate the swat game type in reachEltormo

If that happen on Killzone 3 i offically don't buy it,having to put a clip and half of bullets is not fun in any way or enjoyable,let me shoot you twice in the face to see if you live to tell the story.

That is why Halo players complain so much about MW,because MW2 you don't need to put 40 bullets to kill some one,imagine a war game like MW2 in which you need to spend a clip and half shooting some one to kill him,it would be a dissaster,there would probably be a nuke trown in each game.

You know how Halo has that energy sword? Well, KZ3 needs its own form of lightsaber--with MOVE support. Now that would make killer app status for the Move, imo.

Get Bungie to develop it :)Funconsole

nah i liked dutch games

Sorry bro I don't think it can beat Halo Reach

Sorry bro I don't think it can beat Halo Reach

sergemyster8

also a kevin butler commerical with kz3 = success

What do you mean by "beat"? How can a game on one plat beat a game on another? Unless you imply that KZ3 launches the code through the internet into XBL to make all the 360's who has Halo Reach disks in their trays explode.

What do you mean by "beat"? How can a game on one plat beat a game on another? Unless you imply that KZ3 launches the code through the internet into XBL to make all the 360's who has Halo Reach disks in their trays explode.

Orchid87

oh those were codes that radec was looking for :P

kz cant beat halo.... kz cant even beat gears of war imo.

Those 2 games dont have much in common and they shouldnt be compared.Magik85

The only reasion they get compared is cause they are both 1st party fps and thats about where the similarites end. Both play and feel different.

[QUOTE="Magik85"]Those 2 games dont have much in common and they shouldnt be compared.finalfantasy94

The only reasion they get compared is cause they are both 1st party fps and thats about where the similarites end. Both play and feel different.

tbh you can do alot worse then compare halo and killzone

Smooth, responsive controls and movement. Rock solid framerate and improve the generally laggy feel of KZ2. Take everything else from KZ2 and tweak/improve it and you've got a winner.

inb4 lolol go play COD

halo is so over rated, and halo reach realy isnt the pinicle of fps games, not by a long shot. even killzone 2 in my view is the better game :/

I don't know what they can do to beat Reach, but i hope they streamline the menu system in ways you can see what your friends are doing and join them there groups just like in Halo Reach.

nothing. Killzone 2 is better then Reach (imo)

Keep dreaming, no chance of being better......unless bungie's going to develop it.

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

PAL360

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

Edit: Sorry for the double post :?

Anyway, toast, forge is not terrible for a console editor. there are better ones like in farcry2 but most games simply dont have any.

Why try and kill it, as soon as i hear that phrase i instantly loose interest in the game. Cause it basically means copy halo but improve it slightly. Kz has its own mechanics. Reach would be better with alot of them. but thats what makes it different. If i wanted a halo killer i would play halo, since why play a rip-off/poor idea for a game when i can just play the original. Kz=ps3 Halo=xbox imo both the best on their respective console.

Splitscreen would be nice though (but graphics would have to take a slight cut, which won't happen since 3D is already doing that for it.) But splitscreen please.

Local Multiplayer (4-Player Split-screen versus, 2 player split-screen co-op, both off and online)

4-player Co-Op Firefight with Immense Customization

Large amounts of Gameplay Modes (Invasion, Infection, Stockpile)

Forge Mode or Similar

Theater Mode or Similar

Bungie.net Integration

siddhu33

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

Edit: Sorry for the double post :?

Anyway, toast, forge is not terrible for a console editor. there are better ones like in farcry2 but most games simply dont have any.

PAL360

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

Edit: Sorry for the double post :?

Anyway, toast, forge is not terrible for a console editor. there are better ones like in farcry2 but most games simply dont have any.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

Edit: Sorry for the double post :?

Anyway, toast, forge is not terrible for a console editor. there are better ones like in farcry2 but most games simply dont have any.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Fun to drive vehicles, open sandbox areas, 4 player coop, splitscreen, map editor, etc

Edit: Sorry for the double post :?

Anyway, toast, forge is not terrible for a console editor. there are better ones like in farcry2 but most games simply dont have any.

jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] I just cant see the point in having the editor at all. If i wanted to be creative i would just get a pencil and some paper, and if i want to make something fun I would use a pc editor.toast_burner

First step is to improve the godawful sluggish movement and aiming. This is supposedly fixed already. Other thing is...Killzone 2 barely has an atmosphere becouse for the most part its so loud its tiring. Halo always has that somber music playing somewhere K2 has soldiers screaming over other soldiers screaming over abnoxious explosions everywhere.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Because it adds a lot to the custom games, and will only add to the list of maps/gametypes the community can play in. The map editor more or less another element of the games customization options to adjust the game modes. While I agree the game needs more maps(there all good maps imo, but it needs more than 13, when 5 of em look the same) the map editor has a lot of potential given how much good stuff was done with Halo 3s foundry and sandbox. Forge World does need some edits though. For one whats with the odd restriction where you can only use a certain amount of one specific item even if your budget is still high? That's stupid, and I don't get how the lighting works. At times it's too static, but I keep seeing some of these user maps actually get the maps to be dark. Which makes no sense to me. Also seriously would be nice if the Forge stuff didn't look so samey. I mean The Pit in Forge World is hideous. Fun to play on and I get over it, but man is it awful looking because of the whole metal look. That said restrictions aside Forge has delivered on a ton of fun stuff in Halo 3, and a stronger version should only help Reach. It's hardly a negative or a set back. jg4xchamp

I don't see the point in using a weak editor when there are much better ones around. Saying forge is usful is not that much different then saying MS paint is useful

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]I didnt say its a set back, I said its pretty much a useless feature.

toast_burner

I don't see the point in using a weak editor when there are much better ones around. Saying forge is usful is not that much different then saying MS paint is useful

Killzone 2 barely has an atmosphere Halo always has that somber music playing somewhere.

rzepak

You didn't play KZ2 did you? Halo has nothing on KZ2 atmosphere.

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Killzone 2 barely has an atmosphere Halo always has that somber music playing somewhere.

Orchid87

You didn't play KZ2 did you? Halo has nothing on KZ2 atmosphere.

I did just now...where is this atmosphere? The first Doom did a better job...As for a war type atmosphere then any early MoH, CoD, BFBC2 or most BF games really.

I did just now...where is this atmosphere? The first Doom did a better job...As for a war type atmosphere then any early MoH, CoD, BFBC2 or most BF games really.

rzepak

And the obligatory...

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

I did just now...where is this atmosphere? The first Doom did a better job...As for a war type atmosphere then any early MoH, CoD, BFBC2 or most BF games really.

Orchid87

And the obligatory...

Yes becouse people with a different opinion must be joking or trolling.

Yes becouse people with a different opinion must be joking or trolling.

rzepak

You know in this case you must be joking or trolling :P It's almost like you say that it's raining outside while there is no cloud in sight.

Yes becouse people with a different opinion must be joking or trolling.rzepak

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Yes becouse people with a different opinion must be joking or trolling.Jynxzor

[QUOTE="rzepak"]

Killzone 2 barely has an atmosphere Halo always has that somber music playing somewhere.

Orchid87

You didn't play KZ2 did you? Halo has nothing on KZ2 atmosphere.

halo 3 ODST has more atmosphere than KZ2...:|

[QUOTE="rzepak"]Yes becouse people with a different opinion must be joking or trolling.Jynxzor

A sense of dread. To me Penumbra has a sense of dread so does Metro 2033. Its the feeling that comes when you feel weak and unprepared for what the game throws at you. I didnt feel that in K2 or any Halo really, even the misguided elements with the flood in previous games. To me no one man army shooter can muster dread.

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="rzepak"]Yes becouse people with a different opinion must be joking or trolling.rzepak

A sense of dread. To me Penumbra has a sense of dread so does Metro 2033. Its the feeling that comes when you feel weak and unprepared for what the game throws at you. I didnt feel that in K2 or any Halo really, even the misguided elements with the flood in previous games. To me no one man army shooter can muster dread.

improve on the lackluster story and forgettable characters that KZ2 had. graphics were great, obviously. and gameplay was awesome. online system must be more robust with more options and features. possibly have coop (local and online). thats all i can imagine right now...slvrraven9

[QUOTE="Revolution_Ali"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] You're not going to beat Reach in a feature set battle, but I don't necessarily think you have to. Content doesn't necessarily= superior quality. Where Killzone won't win in customization it can more than make up for in just the general action. jg4xchamp