Confirm/Deny: PC Gaming is crap unless you buy the good hardware.

Too true, you wont get anywhere on prebuilds or obsolete sales.

I find that PC hardware needs to be at least 7x stronger to be noticably better than a 360 or PS3. And don't forget the best PC games to get are those hardcore underdog titles (like Silent Hinter 4), not the common mediocreness or ports (Oblivion, CoD4, BioShock, etc. lol Steam too, go with Game Shadow instead at least) Don't try to argue price, this is a hobby.

Crysis is borderline, looking very nice but the story and gameplay are so average.

Mind you I had a 360 and had my fun with Halo 3, but now I sold it untill something awesome comes out again. But untill then, its my PC and Wii, and possibly PS3 once the RPG's start coming.

Discuss:

Denied : PC is forst and foremost about its games and not how they look.

also pc doesn't neeed to be 7x stronger to have better looking games console (ps3/360)

I find that PC hardware needs to be at least 7x stronger to be noticably better than a 360 or PS3.

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Re5ident_Evil

Seriously I don't know why consolites continue to make ignorant statements on things they obviously have no knowledge of. Why are you talking about things that you don't know anything about? 7X as powerful as a PS3 or 360? Get serious man.

If you don't know about PC Gaming then why even bother making up crap about it?

some of the best PC games are older games, therefor able to be run on old systems.

you fail

some of the best PC games are older games, therefor able to be run on old systems.

you fail

oback

but if you want to play crysis or something, you'll need to go buy a new comp

Luckily for us the good hardware is not very expensive at all.

they could look like crap yes. but there are many that will still have much more depth than any console game.

also 7x? a video card for less than $200 is a modern pc will do just find.

denied,

cs1.6 is one of the best games available and its like 11 years old and any pc can run it

FACT!!!!!

not to mention u can just get a 9600gt for 170$ and run all games even crysis on high setings

deny....PC is not all about graphics...it has a games library thats second to none. even average hardware by PC standards will do a better job than a console in most multiplat games also.

u absolutely do not need the highest end hardware at all times to enjoy PC gaming....its just a nice extra bonus if u work hard and want to treat ureself.

Denied. I have a ton of fun playing aoe2, sim city 3000. civ 3, C&C RA, half life+counter-strike 1.6, diablo 2, medieval total war, planetscape: torment etc etc on my old crappy IBM thinkpad 900mhz PIII 256mb ram laptop.

See unlike the vast majority of console games, PC games have immensely long lifetimes, I can still find thousands of people playing AoEII, starcraft and other RTSs online. There are still awesome mods being released for MTW. There are tens of thousands of people playing CS 1.6 at any one time. Games like Sim City and Civ 3 never get old.

[QUOTE="oback"]

some of the best PC games are older games, therefor able to be run on old systems.

you fail

stealth82428

but if you want to play crysis or something, you'll need to go buy a new comp

do you think I could play Final fantasy X on a ps1?

[QUOTE="stealth82428"][QUOTE="oback"]

some of the best PC games are older games, therefor able to be run on old systems.

you fail

Wahoo2k

but if you want to play crysis or something, you'll need to go buy a new comp

do you think I could play Final fantasy X on a ps1?

no but you could play 7. mmm ff7

[QUOTE="oback"]

some of the best PC games are older games, therefor able to be run on old systems.

you fail

stealth82428

but if you want to play crysis or something, you'll need to go buy a new comp

Luckily for us the good hardware is not very expensive at all.

Killfox

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The PC is all about the games. A game like Darwinia takes no hardware to run, yet is a better game than 99% of what's found on consoles.

PC GPU's are very inexpensive nowadays compared to yesteryear, so the price argument is getting weaker and weaker. Afterall, you're getting a PC on top of a gaming machine, something missing from having a console.

i think pc gaming just needs more knowledge that some people don't know about. for a console, you just need the right one for that game. but for comps, you need to meet min specs. and i hate looking at min specs and going ****, i don't meet them. *is stuck playing aoe2, and guild wars*stealth82428

Once you buy a new computer. It probably takes 3-4 years to not meet minimum specs.

Proof

I had a ati 9000 (made in 2002), and It was able to play COD2 (2005 game).

I think this is a catch 22 for Hermits. It's true you don't need a powerful PC to play many of the great PC games, but the same can be said for the PS3 or XBox 360. You don't need a PC to play great 360 or PS3 games in HD either. I see many hermits claim the game looks (or plays) better on the PC, yet the game still looks and plays great on the game console as well. Hence, you don't really need a PC to play great new or older games. ;)blackace

The PC is all about the games. A game like Darwinia takes no hardware to run, yet is a better game than 99% of what's found on consoles.

PC GPU's are very inexpensive nowadays compared to yesteryear, so the price argument is getting weaker and weaker. Afterall, you're getting a PC on top of a gaming machine, something missing from having a console.

mismajor99

99% is rather drastic

[QUOTE="stealth82428"]i think pc gaming just needs more knowledge that some people don't know about. for a console, you just need the right one for that game. but for comps, you need to meet min specs. and i hate looking at min specs and going ****, i don't meet them. *is stuck playing aoe2, and guild wars*gatorteen

Once you buy a new computer. It probably takes 3-4 years to not meet minimum specs.

Proof

I had a ati 9000 (made in 2002), and It was able to play COD2 (2005 game).

i have a laptop and can't upgrade my video card *tear* i wouldn't mind the 100 dollars to upgrade though. small pricetag.

[QUOTE="stealth82428"]i think pc gaming just needs more knowledge that some people don't know about. for a console, you just need the right one for that game. but for comps, you need to meet min specs. and i hate looking at min specs and going ****, i don't meet them. *is stuck playing aoe2, and guild wars*gatorteen

Once you buy a new computer. It probably takes 3-4 years to not meet minimum specs.

Proof

I had a ati 9000 (made in 2002), and It was able to play COD2 (2005 game).

Too true, you wont get anywhere on prebuilds or obsolete sales.

Re5ident_Evil

If you actually know how to spec out a prebuilt computer you'll be just fine..

I find that PC hardware needs to be at least 7x stronger to be noticably better than a 360 or PS3. And don't forget the best PC games to get are those hardcore underdog titles (like Silent Hinter 4), not the common mediocreness or ports (Oblivion, CoD4, BioShock, etc. lol Steam too, go with Game Shadow instead at least) Don't try to argue price, this is a hobby.

Re5ident_Evil

Did you play CoD4 on the PC? It's nothing near 'mediocreness', it's absolutely stunning.

There is NO PC hardware out that is '7x stronger' then current console hardware. Where did you pick those numbers from? PC hardware is perhaphs 3 generatiions better then anything a console can do atm.

And on top of all that if you actually listen to your own '7x stronger' comment then as the laws of PC hardware dictate you can buy last gen tech for significantly less then current gen which means? It means that you can easily spec out a comparable prebuilt for the cost of a console and also have the side benifit of typing on these forums with it :)

Crysis is borderline, looking very nice but the story and gameplay are so average.

Re5ident_Evil

So what's the point? If I spent $1,000,000.00 on PC hardware my gaming experience in Crysis would be the same as if I spent $1,500.00. I fail to see how this is an issue with hardware.

I think this is a catch 22 for Hermits. It's true you don't need a powerful PC to play many of the great PC games, but the same can be said for the PS3 or XBox 360. You don't need a PC to play great 360 or PS3 games in HD either. I see many hermits claim the game looks (or plays) better on the PC, yet the game still looks and plays great on the game console as well. Hence, you don't really need a PC to play great new or older games. ;)blackace

Good post, and like I said, you need to stay away from the ports because nowadays they're made witht he console in mind and thats why the experience is better and best left to that console.

Sorry I didn't post at all but I was busy.

If you're a hardcore PC Fan like myself, this topic is good. And whats this consolite word? A console fanboy? lol, funniest thing ever on SW, it actually has a real meaning in the world you know.

[QUOTE="gatorteen"]

[QUOTE="stealth82428"]i think pc gaming just needs more knowledge that some people don't know about. for a console, you just need the right one for that game. but for comps, you need to meet min specs. and i hate looking at min specs and going ****, i don't meet them. *is stuck playing aoe2, and guild wars*Riki101

Once you buy a new computer. It probably takes 3-4 years to not meet minimum specs.

Proof

I had a ati 9000 (made in 2002), and It was able to play COD2 (2005 game).

I only put 3-4 years because I could prove it. I'm pretty sure its much longer than that.

Too true, you wont get anywhere on prebuilds or obsolete sales.

I find that PC hardware needs to be at least 7x stronger to be noticably better than a 360 or PS3. And don't forget the best PC games to get are those hardcore underdog titles (like Silent Hinter 4), not the common mediocreness or ports (Oblivion, CoD4, BioShock, etc. lol Steam too, go with Game Shadow instead at least) Don't try to argue price, this is a hobby.

Crysis is borderline, looking very nice but the story and gameplay are so average.

Mind you I had a 360 and had my fun with Halo 3, but now I sold it untill something awesome comes out again. But untill then, its my PC and Wii, and possibly PS3 once the RPG's start coming.

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Re5ident_Evil

After reading that you sold your 360 only planning to buy it again at a later point,I can't really take your thread seriously. And Oblivion and Bioshock are mediocre PC ports? I guess you've never heard of mods or 60 fps.

I guess that means consoles are crap, because they're equivalent to low-mid end pcs.Vandalvideo

I guess that means consoles are crap, because they're equivalent to low-mid end pcs.Vandalvideo

That would make them beyond crap actually.

Graphics = Everything :roll:

There are old but GOOD games on PC that can run on even the $400 Prebuilts you see at Best Buy or Circuit City,don't make me make a list of them.

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Graphics = Everything :roll:

There are old but GOOD games on PC that can run on even the $400 Prebuilts you see at Best Buy or Circuit City,don't make me make a list of them.

/Thread.

Indestructible2

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Graphics = Everything :roll:

There are old but GOOD games on PC that can run on even the $400 Prebuilts you see at Best Buy or Circuit City,don't make me make a list of them.

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wemhim

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Graphics = Everything :roll:

There are old but GOOD games on PC that can run on even the $400 Prebuilts you see at Best Buy or Circuit City,don't make me make a list of them.

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Indestructible2

[QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Graphics = Everything :roll:

There are old but GOOD games on PC that can run on even the $400 Prebuilts you see at Best Buy or Circuit City,don't make me make a list of them.

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wemhim

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"][QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Indestructible2"]

Graphics = Everything :roll:

There are old but GOOD games on PC that can run on even the $400 Prebuilts you see at Best Buy or Circuit City,don't make me make a list of them.

/Thread.

Indestructible2