Confirmed, the Wii is the Wait Forever Machine

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#1 hamidious
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Ok, the Wii is a good secondary system, personally, I'm playing Brawl on it while my little brothers are still playing the old games, but they have been complaining lately wanting a PS3 and lately they went back to playing more *gasp!* PS2. Anyway, I don't want to go on a tangent. Seriously, it is the system to be least excited about this gen. I was very excited about its sales at first thinking that every developer will jump the Wii ship, this hasn't happened, and for the ones that did they just brought rehashes and bad games. Nintendo doesn't seem to care enough about it since they never seem to make much of an effort. They have huge development teams that are making DS titles or Wii casual titles. The games they have hyped since launch is what their traditional fans live on, MP3, SMG, Brawl, they have all come and gone. You wait for new announcements and all you get is milking schemas like Wii fit or whatever...Nintendo is selling the system based on hype and smart marketing solely, no real action to back the words. In 2007 E3, sheep said wait till 2008 E3 and now they are probably thinking wait for E3 2009. Nintendo fans aren't that demanding clearly, they have been jumping out of joy for Mario Kart and something as small as knowing that Zelda is being made is enough to keep them happy till next year. I don't know about you, but there's a real good games drought in Wii land and Nintendo isn't up to the job, and god knows 3rd party isn't the answer.
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#2 Tony-Harrison
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Motion Plus.
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#3 coakroach
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Motion Plus.Tony-Harrison

Odd name for a game

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#4 Tylendal
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Motion Plus takes the Wii-mote beyond the realm of gimmick, into a viable alternative that draws attention away from the competition.
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Eh...

This! http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/890/890276p1.html

Actually,we haven't wait much. We got a Mario, a Metroid, a Zelda, a Smash Brothers, a Pokémon, a Mario Kart, and even a Paper Mario. Even some nice surprises, like a RE4, a Z&W and a NMH.

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I thought the PS3 was the wait forever machine.
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#7 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]Motion Plus.coakroach

Odd name for a game

Like you wouldn't care if Microsoft announced a graphical hardware update along with a game that made full use of it. :roll:

Remember Starwing?

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link?
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I agree with you for the most part, except I disagree about Nintendo fans.

They are demanding. Nintendo just doesn't seem to care.

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#10 the-very-best
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Motion Plus.Tony-Harrison

What about it?

It looks good, but it also looks like something that could have been available at launch. Not something we should have to pay extra for.

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#11 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="coakroach"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]Motion Plus.Tony-Harrison

Odd name for a game

Like you wouldn't care if Microsoft announced a graphical hardware update along with a game that made full use of it. :roll:

Remember Starwing?

I think people underestimate the Motion Plus. What they want is a whole load of epic game trailers. Keep in mind that a lot of devs, shortly before E3 was toned down, were saying that they spent too much time making trailers, and not enough time on games. Maybe Nintendo just isn't willing to make the effort to create trailers.

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Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

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[QUOTE="coakroach"]

[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]Motion Plus.Tony-Harrison

Odd name for a game

Like you wouldn't care if Microsoft announced a graphical hardware update along with a game that made full use of it. :roll:

Remember Starwing?

Meh, Graphics are great already for the 360
More games, less hardware

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Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

kingman03

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

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[QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

Tylendal

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

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#16 Tylendal
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You realize that the Wii-mote could do that before, right? The Motion Plus allows for far more precision, and faster responses. Also, if you ask around you'll realize that the Six-Axis isn't that great in terms of motion control.
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

kingman03

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

thats a big pile of crap your claming
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[QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

air_wolf_cubed

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

thats a big pile of crap your claming

Then explain so I stop crapping so many words.
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

kingman03

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

thats a big pile of crap your claming

Then explain so I stop crapping so many words.

sixaxis is confirmed inferior. you are confirmed fail
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I agree with you for the most part, except I disagree about Nintendo fans.

They are demanding. Nintendo just doesn't seem to care.

the-very-best
Ok, so why are they still coming here defending Nintendo at each opportunity? Reading many posts here you would think they are too excited for Wii music or something. Or saying that Zelda was announced (it wasn't technically an announcement either) and that makes E3 for them.
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#21 Hexagon_777
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Are you serious? The Wii is the Wait Forever Machine? I am still waiting for the PS3 to get exclusive AAA games. It has one according to GameRankings and none according to GameSpot. That is absolutely horrible.
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I thought the PS3 was the wait forever machine. darkplayer
Compared to Nintendo, Sony has been doing a greater job, the PS3 is getting a lot of cool multiplats AND it has gotten/will get some nifty exclusives. While for Nintendo, nobody is doing it right, 3rd parties are disappointing and Nintendo is just looking all casual now, not much of AAA materials. PS3 still has lots of cool games coming *soon* and that have been demonstrated like LittleBigPlanet, Tekken 6 & Killzone 2. Not to mention the multiplats, which can't be played on Wii for the most part. Wii has SMG, MP3 and Brawl, that came out around a year or more ago, no sign for any good game coming in the near future.
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[QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

air_wolf_cubed

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

thats a big pile of crap your claming

Then explain so I stop crapping so many words.

sixaxis is confirmed inferior. you are confirmed fail

Confirmed? By who? You?:lol:

http://nintendoe32008.ytmnd.com/

I really hope you guys enjoy hitting your friends with plastic virtual bats, tossing a Frisbee to a dog, and spastically playing the drums :lol:

Oh, that saxophone looked like even more fun than the real thing!! :roll:

Nintendo is confirmed fail by many, many hardcore gamers out there.

smiles, smiles, smiles, cute stuff, cute stuff, cute stuff, more smiles, and your money is all nintendo wants this year.

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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

kingman03

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

thats a big pile of crap your claming

Then explain so I stop crapping so many words.

sixaxis is confirmed inferior. you are confirmed fail

Confirmed? By who? You?:lol:

http://nintendoe32008.ytmnd.com/

I really hope you guys enjoy hitting your friends with plastic virtual bats, tossing a Frisbee to a dog, and spastically playing the drums :lol:

Oh, that saxophone looked like even more fun than the real thing!! :roll:

Nintendo is confirmed fail by many, many hardcore gamers out there.

smiles, smiles, smiles, cute stuff, cute stuff, cute stuff, more smiles, and your money is all nintendo wants this year.

? 4.5/10
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[QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

Wii Plus is no more than the Wii mote+Six axis controller.

It's just another Gimmick that Sony tried and the Wii will now take over it.

It's still a gimmick.

air_wolf_cubed

Wait, what? I don't quite get what you're saying. Six-Axis has motion sensing inferior to the Wii-motes, whereas the Motion Plus has real, precise, 1:1 motion.

To me it looks like an add-on to make it act like the six-axis does. You twist your wrist and it reacts like that in real-time, just as the six-axis would, but now Nintendo took that idea and added it to the wii-mote. That's just what it looks like to me.

If you can maybe you should explain in more detail what exactly the motion-plus remote is/does besides help you throw a Frisbee to your virtual pet dog.

thats a big pile of crap your claming

Then explain so I stop crapping so many words.

sixaxis is confirmed inferior. you are confirmed fail

Confirmed? By who? You?:lol:

http://nintendoe32008.ytmnd.com/

I really hope you guys enjoy hitting your friends with plastic virtual bats, tossing a Frisbee to a dog, and spastically playing the drums :lol:

Oh, that saxophone looked like even more fun than the real thing!! :roll:

Nintendo is confirmed fail by many, many hardcore gamers out there.

smiles, smiles, smiles, cute stuff, cute stuff, cute stuff, more smiles, and your money is all nintendo wants this year.

? 4.5/10

One big gimmick/10 ?
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*runs away*

*comes back for last laugh*

*runs away again*

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#28 air_wolf_cubed
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*runs away*

*comes back for last laugh*

*runs away again*

kingman03
what was so funny?
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[QUOTE="kingman03"]

*runs away*

*comes back for last laugh*

*runs away again*

air_wolf_cubed

what was so funny?

Victory?

EDIT: Nintendo and their line up of games.

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[QUOTE="darkplayer"]I thought the PS3 was the wait forever machine. hamidious
Compared to Nintendo, Sony has been doing a greater job, the PS3 is getting a lot of cool multiplats AND it has gotten/will get some nifty exclusives. While for Nintendo, nobody is doing it right, 3rd parties are disappointing and Nintendo is just looking all casual now, not much of AAA materials. PS3 still has lots of cool games coming *soon* and that have been demonstrated like LittleBigPlanet, Tekken 6 & Killzone 2. Not to mention the multiplats, which can't be played on Wii for the most part. Wii has SMG, MP3 and Brawl, that came out around a year or more ago, no sign for any good game coming in the near future.


Super Mario Galaxy came out on the 12th of November, 2007. Metroid Prime 3 came out on the 27th of August, 2007. Super Smash Bros. Brawl came out on the 9th of March, 2008.

None of these three games have even been out for a year.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl hasn't even been out for 6 months.

You should change your comment to "around a year or way less".

What is true, however, is that Sony's first important, exclusive title came out a year or more after the PS3 came out.
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

*runs away*

*comes back for last laugh*

*runs away again*

kingman03

what was so funny?

Victory?

EDIT: Nintendo and their line up of games.

a list is funny?
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[QUOTE="kingman03"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="kingman03"]

*runs away*

*comes back for last laugh*

*runs away again*

air_wolf_cubed

what was so funny?

Victory?

EDIT: Nintendo and their line up of games.

a list is funny?

I don't think a list can be funny, but the items on the list can be.

I'm sure you know this, and I hope you know that I know you're pulling my leg.

it doesn't bother me though i'm having fun...

but your sig annoys the crap out of me.

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#33 hamidious
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[QUOTE="hamidious"][QUOTE="darkplayer"]I thought the PS3 was the wait forever machine. Hexagon_777
Compared to Nintendo, Sony has been doing a greater job, the PS3 is getting a lot of cool multiplats AND it has gotten/will get some nifty exclusives. While for Nintendo, nobody is doing it right, 3rd parties are disappointing and Nintendo is just looking all casual now, not much of AAA materials. PS3 still has lots of cool games coming *soon* and that have been demonstrated like LittleBigPlanet, Tekken 6 & Killzone 2. Not to mention the multiplats, which can't be played on Wii for the most part. Wii has SMG, MP3 and Brawl, that came out around a year or more ago, no sign for any good game coming in the near future.


Super Mario Galaxy came out on the 12th of November, 2007. Metroid Prime 3 came out on the 27th of August, 2007. Super Smash Bros. Brawl came out on the 9th of March, 2008.

None of these three games have even been out for a year.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl hasn't even been out for 6 months.

You should change your comment to "around a year or way less".

What is true, however, is that Sony's first important, exclusive title came out a year or more after the PS3 came out.

Gosh I haven't played those games for a while, it felt like ages ago. Anway, the PS3, 360 and PC, hell even the DS are getting some very cool titles while the Wii feels left out. Shouldn't Nintendo lose its hardcore audience on the Wii side already?
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What about it?

It looks good, but it also looks like something that could have been available at launch. Not something we should have to pay extra for.

The-very-best

The technology in the motion plus is fairly advanced and it wouldn't have been in a viable state for use by 2005. The multi-axis gyroscope was typically used in car stability control systems and so it would have taken alot of work to both shrink it down to size and reduce it's power consumption.

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At the end of the generation, I can see many Wii only owners breaking down to get a 360/ps3.
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The technology in the motion plus is fairly advanced and it wouldn't have been in a viable state for use by 2005. The gyrometer was typically used in car steering systems and so it would have taken alot of work toboth shrink it down to size and reduce it's power consumption.

Popadophalis

Oh, come on, man. You can't seriously believe they couldn't have included it at launch.

It's just like DS3 for PS3 or Sony saying they'd been working on the motion controls for the Sixaxis for years when they really just stole it from Nintendo as soon as they unveiled the Wiimote.

This is just a new way to make money. I'm not saying it's bad, it looks really cool, I just think that if they really wanted to, they could have done it at launch.

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#37 Popadophalis
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[QUOTE="Popadophalis"]

The technology in the motion plus is fairly advanced and it wouldn't have been in a viable state for use by 2005. The gyrometer was typically used in car steering systems and so it would have taken alot of work toboth shrink it down to size and reduce it's power consumption.

the-very-best

Oh, come on, man. You can't seriously believe they couldn't have included it at launch.

It's just like DS3 for PS3 or Sony saying they'd been working on the motion controls for the Sixaxis for years when they really just stole it from Nintendo as soon as they unveiled the Wiimote.

This is just a new way to make money. I'm not saying it's bad, it looks really cool, I just think that if they really wanted to, they could have done it at launch.

Here's the link to the press release from Invensense which details the some of the lengths they went to, to adapt their technology to the wii remote. http://kotaku.com/5025650/how-exactly-does-the-wiis-motionplus-work

Whatever the case after re-watching the video of the M+ in use I'm extremely excited for it's next application in a full game. 1-1 sword control in Zelda would be amazing 8)

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#38 the-very-best
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Here's the link to the press release from Invensense which details the some of the lengths they went to, to adapt their technology to the wii remote. http://kotaku.com/5025650/how-exactly-does-the-wiis-motionplus-work

Whatever the case after re-watching the video of the M+ in use I'm extremely excited for it's next aplication in a full game. 1-1 sword control in Zelda woud be amazing 8)

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That's nice... doesn't really change anything though. Like I said, looks good, but it could have been there earlier. Just a new way to make money and since it looks so cool, it looks like they'll get their wish.

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#39 Popadophalis
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[QUOTE="Popadophalis"]

Here's the link to the press release from Invensense which details the some of the lengths they went to, to adapt their technology to the wii remote. http://kotaku.com/5025650/how-exactly-does-the-wiis-motionplus-work

Whatever the case after re-watching the video of the M+ in use I'm extremely excited for it's next aplication in a full game. 1-1 sword control in Zelda woud be amazing 8)

the-very-best

That's nice... doesn't really change anything though. Like I said, looks good, but it could have been there earlier. Just a new way to make money and since it looks so cool, it looks like they'll get their wish.

Knowing Nintendo they probably didn't want to charge $80 for their controller at launch when they could be that much more profitable later on...

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#40 lusitanogamer
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I thought the PS3 was the wait forever machine. darkplayer
No, it's the "just wait" machine.
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#41 rgame1
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lol cows trying to shrug off their trend onto sheep :lol:
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#42 Kingmohd84
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I agree with you man in everything you say

they said it was about gameplay not graphics, i dont see how the wii is not able to come up with good new games, i am fine i dont want HD, but its games is nothing near things like gears of war, mgs4, fable, all these big titles , why cant we have titles like these on the wii but with out HD graphics am fine with that?

all we get is shovelware, remakes, and the usual mario and partners. Ok mario is good and so is zelda, but its about time we see different type of games. Think of RE4 for gamecube, eternal darkness, killer 7, you know good attempts for big shots in the videogame industry, not aiming for second line. NONE of the games released for the wii is considered to be a leading in market sales that funny because first time in history the most selling console is not getting that type of games. Its like back then, GTA FF GT MGS are all released for gamecube and the ps2 is getting kiddy games like wiiplay, it just doesnt make sense. The wii has largest user base and it even has a cool motion control option that should be used....but no, we get games with graphics like for a handheld, what should i say to a console that its top selling game is wiiplay!!

i share your pain man,

if this continue , I think the gamecube would be a better console. Yes this sold more and made more money, but talk about game quality wise...Zelda is shared, metroid was originally gamecube game, super smash is only improved game, the only thing really better and new is mario galaxy...

everything else is a port, shovelware, remake, or a 20 year old franchise with nothing new.