CONFIRMED: U3 beta graphics were NOT downscaled for smaller DL size.

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#1 FlailingFire
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So.. Cristophe Balestra confirmed today via his twitter that the beta graphics were not downscaled -as some people here assumed- to make the download size smaller.. When he was asked: "Is it true that you downscaled the graphics (i.e. low-res textures) of the U3 beta, to keep the download size small?" He replied: "absolutely not."

Ouch, fans of Uncharted and myself just took a large hit. I'm a bit disappointed.
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#2 BPoole96
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I surely hope those graphics weren't representative of the final product. IF so than Uncharted 2 looks better than UC3

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#3 MozartXVI
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lmao. it's like they took a step foward on u2, and then two steps back a couple of years later.

cows will still eat it up though.

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#4 mrmcygan
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why is everyone saying the graphics are bad. the uc3 beta footage was better that uc2 sp. Also the game is'nt evrn done yet.

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#5 FlailingFire
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I surely hope those graphics weren't representative of the final product. IF so than Uncharted 2 looks better than UC3

BPoole96
I agree, the beta graphics were horrendous. The major issue is the A.A.
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#6 brickdoctor
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Screw all the technical problems. What disappointed me was the artistic design. It felt uninspired.

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#7 Sollet
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I surely hope those graphics weren't representative of the final product. IF so than Uncharted 2 looks better than UC3

FlailingFire
I agree, the beta graphics were horrendous. The major issue is the A.A.

Is that you CobraMax?
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#8 Heil68
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Good, I was hoping that was the direction the game was going in. Absolutely vibrant, full of life and stunning. Can't waiting to play the full realized vision of Naughty Dog.
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#9 FlailingFire
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Good, I was hoping that was the direction the game was going in. Absolutely vibrant, full of life and stunning. Can't waiting to play the full realized vision of Naughty Dog.Heil68
It'd be better if it had decent textures to back it up. They're pretty mediocre from what I saw, and the people stating it looks like Uncharted 2 and or worse are pretty much stating the same.
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#10 Nonstop-Madness
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It looks much better now .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRudxIusa54&feature=player_embedded
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#11 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Good, I was hoping that was the direction the game was going in. Absolutely vibrant, full of life and stunning. Can't waiting to play the full realized vision of Naughty Dog.FlailingFire
It'd be better if it had decent textures to back it up. They're pretty mediocre from what I saw, and the people stating it looks like Uncharted 2 and or worse are pretty much stating the same.

I actually gasped from how breath taking the graphics were in the beta. ND is top developer, game will deliver. It can score a 1 here and it will still be the best game released this year.
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#12 Blabadon
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Naughty Dog, what the hell, fix the crappy gameplay first.
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#13 eboyishere
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it's looking a little better tho...of course off screen

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#14 Pug-Nasty
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It was a beta, i.e. an unfinished product. It was also MP, and U2's multiplayer didn't look as good as U2's single player. U3's beta graphics were better than U2's multiplayer graphics, so I really don't see a problem.

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#15 Solid_Link22
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I thought multiplayer always looked a lot worse than the single player :?

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#16 spookykid143
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Naughty Dog, what the hell, fix the crappy gameplay first. Blabadon
UC3 had crappy gameplay?

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#17 mrmusicman247
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But according to lems, the beta looks better than the single player shown. So isn't this really a win for the cows?
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#18 FlailingFire
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Naughty Dog, what the hell, fix the crappy gameplay first. spookykid143

UC3 had crappy gameplay?

It wasn't bad. Once you got over the more "in" camera angle and sprint feature. Then it was alright.
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#19 FoolwithaLancer
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Good, the Beta ooked fine and played fine though, so I'm not worried. :3

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#20 tonitorsi
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The game hasn't gone gold, and in no way shape or form is an unfinished beta the results of the final model...of which, releases in November. Yeah. November. Take your med pills Lemmos and chillax -_-
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#21 The_Pacific
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U3 MP graphics looked like trash. So sad that the SP looks stellar yet the MP is such a downgrade.
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#22 FlailingFire
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[QUOTE="The_Pacific"]U3 MP graphics looked like trash. So sad that the SP looks stellar yet the MP is such a downgrade.

It's not surprising. Uncharted seems to be even more linear and scripted this time around, I loved two. But this one has done nothing to improve the image of the franchise.
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#23 FlailingFire
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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]The game hasn't gone gold, and in no way shape or form is an unfinished beta the results of the final model...of which, releases in November. Yeah. November. Take your med pills Lemmos and chillax -_-

Textures won't improve. Just lighting, possibly. It wouldn't be possible for ND to re-do all textures in a single development phase. Also they should fix there A.A MLAA is NOT working.
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#24 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="FlailingFire"][QUOTE="The_Pacific"]U3 MP graphics looked like trash. So sad that the SP looks stellar yet the MP is such a downgrade.

It's not surprising. Uncharted seems to be even more linear and scripted this time around, I loved two. But this one has done nothing to improve the image of the franchise.

I love how your saying this yet you haven't played the game. You should profit off of those psychic abilities.
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#25 kweeni
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I feel like I'm the only one who didn't pay any attention to the graphics when playing the beta.

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#26 TrapJak
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I feel like I'm the only one who didn't pay any attention to the graphics when playing the beta.

kweeni

*brofist*

I'm with ya brah.

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#27 Wasdie  Moderator
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The beta was how many months before the final product?

While it won't be an amazing change, I'm sure things will improve. They probably used an older build of the game for beta testing purposes. Taking a new build with all of the fancy graphcis but with terrible optimization isn't really the point of a beta.

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#28 FlailingFire
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The beta was how many months before the final product?

While it won't be an amazing change, I'm sure things will improve. They probably used an older build of the game for beta testing purposes. Taking a new build with all of the fancy graphcis but with terrible optimization isn't really the point of a beta.

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But a developer just stated, those graphics were final. Textures wise, I've seen some lighting improvements though in the newer footage.
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#29 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="FlailingFire"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I surely hope those graphics weren't representative of the final product. IF so than Uncharted 2 looks better than UC3

Sollet
I agree, the beta graphics were horrendous. The major issue is the A.A.

Is that you CobraMax?

thinking the same thing
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#30 xYamatox
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1) Implying that graphics REALLY matter on 5 year old hardware

2) Implying that Uncharted is popular solely for it's graphics

3) Implying that a Beta is an accurate representation of a final product

4) Completely ignoring the video posted in this thread showing that the graphics are OBVIOUSLY improved.

^^ This is why this thread fails.

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#31 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Eithey way it seems that they improved on a lot of things (especially graphics) judging by the recent video I posted in my thread. That looks a lot better than the beta, and Naughty Dog always polishes their games up a lot before release, plus they have an extra 2 months after Gears comes out to add in some extra extra polish. I'm telling you guys, this game is going to be Donkey balls.

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#32 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The beta was how many months before the final product?

While it won't be an amazing change, I'm sure things will improve. They probably used an older build of the game for beta testing purposes. Taking a new build with all of the fancy graphcis but with terrible optimization isn't really the point of a beta.

FlailingFire

But a developer just stated, those graphics were final. Textures wise, I've seen some lighting improvements though in the newer footage.

They said they didn't downgrade what they had, not that what they had was what they will end up with.

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[QUOTE="FlailingFire"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The beta was how many months before the final product?

While it won't be an amazing change, I'm sure things will improve. They probably used an older build of the game for beta testing purposes. Taking a new build with all of the fancy graphcis but with terrible optimization isn't really the point of a beta.

Pug-Nasty

But a developer just stated, those graphics were final. Textures wise, I've seen some lighting improvements though in the newer footage.

They said they didn't downgrade what they had, not that what they had was what they will end up with.

And if it is another excuse will come up.

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#34 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="FlailingFire"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The beta was how many months before the final product?

While it won't be an amazing change, I'm sure things will improve. They probably used an older build of the game for beta testing purposes. Taking a new build with all of the fancy graphcis but with terrible optimization isn't really the point of a beta.

Pug-Nasty

But a developer just stated, those graphics were final. Textures wise, I've seen some lighting improvements though in the newer footage.

They said they didn't downgrade what they had, not that what they had was what they will end up with.

Yeah there is a huge difference in those.

It means they gave us the beta in the best form it was, not that it was the final product, but now fanboys are going to spin it every which way.

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#35 nutcrackr
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Don't care about the textures but really hope they get some anti-aliasing in there somewhere :?

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#36 FlailingFire
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Don't care about the textures but really hope they get some anti-aliasing in there somewhere :?

nutcrackr
They have A.A, just the MLAA isn't doing any thing productive ATM.
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#37 redskins26rocs
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Is every single thing on this forum about graphics and the uncharted 3 beta is a downscaleversion because last time I checked a beta is not the full game
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#38 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]

Don't care about the textures but really hope they get some anti-aliasing in there somewhere :?

FlailingFire
They have A.A, just the MLAA isn't doing any thing productive ATM.

Try the new video that went up.
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#39 FlailingFire
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[QUOTE="FlailingFire"][QUOTE="nutcrackr"]

Don't care about the textures but really hope they get some anti-aliasing in there somewhere :?

lx_theo
They have A.A, just the MLAA isn't doing any thing productive ATM.

Try the new video that went up.

I can't tell, it's not in HQ.
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#40 campzor
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so many haters... prepare to get owned once it hits shelves.. i saw a crappy video of the mp footage of the desert village today and that looked great... AND IT WAS A ***** CAMERA
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#41 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="FlailingFire"] But a developer just stated, those graphics were final. Textures wise, I've seen some lighting improvements though in the newer footage. BloodyFalcon007

They said they didn't downgrade what they had, not that what they had was what they will end up with.

And if it is another excuse will come up.

It's really just what they said. Trying to spin it doesn't change the meaning for those who can read.

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#42 carljohnson3456
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Oh no! I cant bare to play through another game that looks as good as Uncharted 2!!!!
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#44 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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It was probably not finished code or something, so UC fans have nothing to worry about
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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

1) Implying that graphics REALLY matter on 5 year old hardware

2) Implying that Uncharted is popular solely for it's graphics

3) Implying that a Beta is an accurate representation of a final product

4) Completely ignoring the video posted in this thread showing that the graphics are OBVIOUSLY improved.

^^ This is why this thread fails.

Stringerboy

Well, it kinda is dude.

not really, it's becuase it feels like playing an insane action movie
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[QUOTE="FlailingFire"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I surely hope those graphics weren't representative of the final product. IF so than Uncharted 2 looks better than UC3

Sollet

I agree, the beta graphics were horrendous. The major issue is the A.A.

Is that you CobraMax?

No this is me. lol

I think after seeing Dues Ex 3 on PS3 and Xbox 360... FXAA is the better solution for Uncharted 3.

Look here:

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#47 gpuking
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Just because it didn't down scale doesn't mean it wont improve over time, I swear haters can be so one dimensional in thinking. New sand storm footage looks ridiculously good.
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#48 -Snooze-
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The finished product will be on par with Gear's as the best looking console title. (I'd say Crysis on the Xbox won, but eh)

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#49 Malta_1980
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seriously i dont understand why ppl should worry as regards visuals when it comes to Uncharted 3..

While I am not expecting a huge visual improvement compared to UC2, I have no doubts both sp & mp in UC3 will look better ..

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#50 DanteSuikoden
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You're bashing multiplayer graphics....really now?