Confirmed:PS3 will be able to read Hitachi's 100GIG Blu-Ray Roms

pointless for gaming since making a game with 100gig of content would not be economically feasible. Ontain

[QUOTE="Ontain"]pointless for gaming since making a game with 100gig of content would not be economically feasible. Cassius128

[QUOTE="Spartan8907"]As if production costs werent alrready too high. Wait! This just in! Developers say the cost not worth it and refuse to use up all of the 100gb Bluray's space with anything other than HD video! Hooray for larger disk space.Squall_Griver

Hideo Kojima recently said that "Blu-Ray is too small for Metal Gear Solid 4."

The current spec of Blu-Ray is only 25 GB, and he wants
the newer spec 50 GB Blu-Ray for MGS4. (Not a Dual Layer 25 GB Blu-Ray,
but the single layer 50 GB Blu-Ray)

killaj2786

...Try to get your basic facts straight before you make assertions. The current BD spec (1.0) allows for 25GB or 50GB discs and 50GB is ALWAYS dual-layer, maybe you mean single-sided?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]pointless for gaming since making a game with 100gig of content would not be economically feasible. Cassius128

For a resonable price of course.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]So this means Heavenly Sword 2 will be 10 hours long? Awesome!Gamersince81

Wow strong lemming despite owning a PS3. HS was longer than GEOW.. for the time it took me to finish both games!

Haha, no it wasn't. That's complete BS. GeoW was an hour longer than HS.

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

the lems will say their DVD 9 is the way to go :lol:

killaj2786

Heavenly Sword....Lair....please lets stop the flamebait.

The chances of a 100GB ps3 game happening this gen is about......well no chance...at all.

[QUOTE="Ontain"]pointless for gaming since making a game with 100gig of content would not be economically feasible. Cassius128

Also doesn't MSG4 already need 50GB of space? And doesn't information/communication technology double ever year? So I bet we could see 100GB games in the near future.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="trizzle_a"]

"The much anticipated 200 gig Blu-Ray disc is also on the way to make inroads against the competition."

My God....

trizzle_a

I hope TV seasons get made for Blu Ray once the 200 GB discs come out, no more multidisc fiddling to watch all the episodes of aFamily Guy season.

Bingo! That's what these disks are really for!

And how about movie trilogies on 1 disk? Or movie value packs(5-10 movies on one disk for a budget price).

unconfirmed actually.

Hitachi al ready said that players might be able to with an firmware update, As well what bout this from that article?

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"Hitachi says they are now working on "improving the signal quality of its quad-layer technology" so that it can be ready to hit the market soon. The company also boasted that they were working on a eight-layer Blu-ray disc capable of storing 200GB of data. ""

So...they are 100% sure it will work in players...yet are still working on improving signal quality of the tech so players will be able to play it?.....

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

[QUOTE="nutz2thegrave"]show us one game useing your whole 50? lol no effort or no reson too?thirstychainsaw

MGS4

One game? Wouldn't surprise me if Kojima has two full length movies on the disc.

At the moment that is the only game, that I know of, but that in itself is impressive.

unconfirmed actually.

Hitachi al ready said that players might be able to with an firmware update, AS well they are stil working on data reading so as said players can read it.

How is it confirmed if they are still working on it?

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

unconfirmed actually.

Hitachi al ready said that players might be able to with an firmware update, AS well they are stil working on data reading so as said players can read it.

How is it confirmed if they are still working on it?

Squall_Griver

Edited my post but ill repost here.


"Hitachi says they are now working on "improving the signal quality of its quad-layer technology" so that it can be ready to hit the market soon. The company also boasted that they were working on a eight-layer Blu-ray disc capable of storing 200GB of data. "

So they are 100% sure current players will read it....yet they are still improving signal quality so they will? how is this confirmed....

Fanboy response:

AWESOME, thats 16.5GB an hour!

Non-faboy response:

Blu-ray capacity is pretty awesome but I question the usefulness of this in games..although for data backups, depending on the cost this could be amazing.

Runningflame570

Well pretty much this is where the debate begins. Are developers most likely going to use the full capacity of a 100 GB disc anytime soon? Hell no! I highly doubt you will see PCgames getting into double digits for another year or two aside from Crysis which is just massive, UT3 is alone supposed to be like 10-12 GB's I think and of course there are going to be exceptions to the rule for a little while yet and most developers would not feel the need to make games with such large amounts of contentbecause lets face it, odds aredevelopers would spend about 3 years at least developing a game to be that large.

In the long run though there is a huge problem with having that much space to create a game. Development time would take much longer and be more expensive, so in the end the pricepoint of the game is going to increase due to production costs, its just like with movies and even some music is more expensive due to longer production time. It would be cool to see a retrospective of all the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games made for consoles, odds are you could have about 50 GB's of data right there what with 13 iterations which alone will probably be about 40 GB's alone (FF13 is going to be huge in size).

Also, isn't Final Fantasy 13 supposed to require the 50 GB Blu Ray disc?

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

unconfirmed actually.

Hitachi al ready said that players might be able to with an firmware update, AS well they are stil working on data reading so as said players can read it.

How is it confirmed if they are still working on it?

WilliamRLBaker

Edited my post but ill repost here.


"Hitachi says they are now working on "improving the signal quality of its quad-layer technology" so that it can be ready to hit the market soon. The company also boasted that they were working on a eight-layer Blu-ray disc capable of storing 200GB of data. "

So they are 100% sure current players will read it....yet they are still improving signal quality so they will? how is this confirmed....

not matter if developers use all 100gb or not its still there if ever needed. dcm06

Anyone made the 6 hour game on a BR disc joke yet?jdknight21

nope, yake it its yours!!!! heavanly space!

cool

now I want games

[QUOTE="nutz2thegrave"]show us one game useing your whole 50? lol no effort or no reson too?Liquid-Prince

MGS4

[QUOTE="Liquid-Prince"]

[QUOTE="nutz2thegrave"]show us one game useing your whole 50? lol no effort or no reson too?22Toothpicks

MGS4

Kojima is just the biggestlair in history. he said that he won't do MGS2 and he has done it. he even made MGS3!!. I doubt he's gonna use a full 50 GB of GAMEPLAY (not a bunch of movies or uncompressed audio)

it's just for Hyping the game and the PS3 since it's the only gaming machine uses Blue-Ray.

and as we all know. Kojima is the biggest Sony fanboy of all the time

[QUOTE="killaj2786"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

the lems will say their DVD 9 is the way to go :lol:

AskForDetails

Heavenly Sword....Lair....please lets stop the flamebait.

The chances of a 100GB ps3 game happening this gen is about......well no chance...at all.

MGS4 uses 50GB already....

[QUOTE="killaj2786"]

Hideo Kojima recently said that "Blu-Ray is too small for Metal Gear Solid 4."

The current spec of Blu-Ray is only 25 GB, and he wants
the newer spec 50 GB Blu-Ray for MGS4. (Not a Dual Layer 25 GB Blu-Ray,
but the single layer 50 GB Blu-Ray)

Runningflame570

...Try to get your basic facts straight before you make assertions. The current BD spec (1.0) allows for 25GB or 50GB discs and 50GB is ALWAYS dual-layer, maybe you mean single-sided?

I got that from the 1up board ....hench why i space out two times to show the my response.....

Wow lemmings can turn anything positive for the PS3 or Sony into a negativeEPaul

Yes and any negative of the 360 is turned into a positive, the 4 discs = more value argument comes to mind.

At the end of the day there is no way this can be seen as a negative, no one is forced to use it (and i doubt anyone would need it), butthey are given more freedom by having the option to use it.

I love how people ACTUALLY think this means bigger or longer huge huge games.

I'm sure it will to some extent make it longer but Cows act as if their games will be 5 times bigger or something.

And btw MGS4 is 50GB because it is uncompressed. He does not NEED to do it that way but chooses to because he can.

You do realize for a game to use 100GB or between 50GB and 100GB of space for pure content and not uncompressing, that it would costs the devs more and more money. Like $30 Mill budgets and upwards

the lems will say their DVD 9 is the way to go :lol:

Game13a13y

No, that's actually good news. Now maybe they will release some Epic games on the PS3 instead of 6hrs games like Heavenly Sword. they had 50GB on the currently Blu-Ray, yet we got LAIR and Heavenly Sword which can both be completed several times over the a weekend. With 100GB maybe we will see 12-14hr games.

The other thing I'm wondering is will developers spend the extra 5 million to fill the extra 50GB on that disc.