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70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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Good to hear, the DS is a great unit for any type of gamer.
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70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces
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[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

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#5 JLF1
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Yay, one of the best handhelds of all time.

It's still being beaten by GBA in game quality IMO. Where are the new superb RPGs and platformers damn it:(
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#7 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

Ummm No the psp was expected by so many people to "crush" the DS with it superior graphics and multimedia capabilities. By no way was the psp the underdog. Cow's say that now because the DS totally muderd there lousy excuse of a handheld and say.

"Oh sony did alright for there 1st handheld!!"

"sony was the underdog!!! :cry:"

At first I thought the psp had this handheld gen in the bag but then the DS lite and games like nintendogs came out and it put the nail in the pirate station portables coffin

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Yup its hilarious still seeing all the DS haters out there when theres still undeniable proff that its better then the Pirate station Portable.

70 Million compared to the psp's what ? 35 million ? Thats complete an total ownage on sonys part

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

PSP is still a kickass handheld that no handheld gamer should miss. The DS is better yes but the PSP has the games to be worth the price IMO.

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#9 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Yup its hilarious still seeing all the DS haters out there when theres still undeniable proff that its better then the Pirate station Portable.

70 Million compared to the psp's what ? 35 million ? Thats complete an total ownage on sonys part

JLF1

PSP is still a kickass handheld that no handheld gamer should miss. The DS is better yes but the PSP has the games to be worth the price IMO.

To me the psp is basically a console wanabe that fails miserably. The games are mostly waterd down poorly controlling versions of there consoles counterparts to this date I have played two psp games worth mentioning and they are Tekken and Vice city and thats not saying much since the better version of both those games is on the ps2 :?
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[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

Ummm No the psp was expected by so many people to "crush" the DS with it superior graphics and multimedia capabilities. By no way was the psp the underdog. Cow's say that now because the DS totally muderd there lousy excuse of a handheld and say.

"Oh sony did alright for there 1st handheld!!"

"sony was the underdog!!! :cry:"

At first I thought the psp had this handheld gen in the bag but then the DS lite and games like nintendogs came out and it put the nail in the pirate station portables coffin

Yea because all those gameboy, gameboy colour, GBA etc etc fans are just going to jump to this new handheld without getting a DS first or getting a PSP and not bothering with a DS.. right?

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I'll always have a huge place in my heart for the Gameboy..
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Yup its hilarious still seeing all the DS haters out there when theres still undeniable proff that its better then the Pirate station Portable.

70 Million compared to the psp's what ? 35 million ? Thats complete an total ownage on sonys part

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

PSP is still a kickass handheld that no handheld gamer should miss. The DS is better yes but the PSP has the games to be worth the price IMO.

To me the psp is basically a console wanabe that fails miserably. The games are mostly waterd down poorly controlling versions of there consoles counterparts to this date I have played two psp games worth mentioning and they are Tekken and Vice city and thats not saying much since the better version of both those games is on the ps2 :?

Patapon.
God of War CoO.
DJ mas Portable 1, 2
Castlevania: The Dracula X chronicles
Daxter
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7
Star Wars Battlefront: Renegade Squadron
Salamander Portable
Crush
Metal Gear Solid: Portable ops
Syphon Filther: Dark Mirror and SP: Logans Shadow
Wipeout Pure, Pulse
Metal Gear ACID 1, 2

That's enough games to make me buy the PSP IMO.

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#13 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

jangojay

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

Ummm No the psp was expected by so many people to "crush" the DS with it superior graphics and multimedia capabilities. By no way was the psp the underdog. Cow's say that now because the DS totally muderd there lousy excuse of a handheld and say.

"Oh sony did alright for there 1st handheld!!"

"sony was the underdog!!! :cry:"

At first I thought the psp had this handheld gen in the bag but then the DS lite and games like nintendogs came out and it put the nail in the pirate station portables coffin

Yea because all those gameboy, gameboy colour, GBA etc etc fans are just going to jump to this new handheld without getting a DS first or getting a PSP and not bothering with a DS.. right?

No because people compared the DS fat to the Psp and they saw an ugly handheld with mediocre games. With the psp they saw flashy visuals plus Multimedia and thought "wow now thats a handheld!!" but then games started coming out for the DS and more console rehases started coming out for the psp and people finally made a desicion to jump on the nintendo bandwagon

Inovative games like nintendog,brainage and warioware put the nails in the psp's coffin not the GBA owners. Psp is a clear example that graphics and multimedia features dont equal automatic win like sony had thought. People buy handhelds to play handheld games not waterd down ports and 2 or 3 worthwhile titles a year.

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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Yup its hilarious still seeing all the DS haters out there when theres still undeniable proff that its better then the Pirate station Portable.

70 Million compared to the psp's what ? 35 million ? Thats complete an total ownage on sonys part

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

PSP is still a kickass handheld that no handheld gamer should miss. The DS is better yes but the PSP has the games to be worth the price IMO.

To me the psp is basically a console wanabe that fails miserably. The games are mostly waterd down poorly controlling versions of there consoles counterparts to this date I have played two psp games worth mentioning and they are Tekken and Vice city and thats not saying much since the better version of both those games is on the ps2 :?

Ratchet & Clank, Daxter, Jeanne D'Arc, God of War COO, Patapon, Crisis Core, Wipeout Pure/Pulse, SW Battlefront RS, SF LS, Socom FTB 1 & 2, etc.

I really don't care to debate, those games have done so for me. You're obviously wrong. You may not like the PSP, but it certainly has it's own IP's and new awesome games out for it that you can't get on a console.

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Nintendo the underdog? They have dominated the handheld market unprecidented for years, upon years, every atempt to penetrate the handheld market was met with crushing defeat by Nintendo...and you call them the underdogs of the handheld market?

I'm sure the Nintendo high ups would even laugh in your face if they heard that.

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First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

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when psp was introduced every single game site like 1 up ,ign & gs was predicting doom and gloom for nintendo's portable business im not just talking about the forums , im also talking about opinions from the sites editors and reviewers ,they said psp will challenge not just nintendo's portable market but it will also be a threat to apples ipod with it's multi media capabilities and the usual software support from sony and its 3rd parties , they also claimed that the wide screen and the analog stick was the icing on the cake and it will be the handsdown fave of the new handheld ,while fanboys laughed @ the comparison of ridge racer ds and ridge racer psp ....well, who is laughing now ??
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when psp was introduced every single game site like 1 up ,ign & gs was predicting doom and gloom for nintendo's portable business im not just talking about the forums , im also talking about opinions from the sites editors and reviewers ,they said psp will challenge not just nintendo's portable market but it will also be a threat to apples ipod with it's multi media capabilities and the usual software support from sony and its 3rd parties , they also claimed that the wide screen and the analog stick was the icing on the cake and it will be the handsdown fave of the new handheld ,while fanboys laughed @ the comparison of ridge racer ds and ridge racer psp ....well, who is laughing now ?? Kakarot00769
Nintendo Execs??
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First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

Malta_1980

for the record i wasnt bashing the psp , i own 1 and i just recently added crisis core and gow :coo to my collection .

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First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

Malta_1980

Some would call the PSP a "failure" simply because while it sells a boatload of hardware, it's software sales have simply been abysmal! Back in 2006, total PSP software sale for the whole entire year was around like 25 million units total for ONE YEAR! Compare this to DS's 106 million units sold! That isn't a spanking, it's a total slaughter with the DS pouring salt on the wounds for extra measure! Of course this was at the hight of the "Homebrew" days. Now its better but still, look at the charts, except for Monster Hunter (Japan) GOW here, there basically no PSP in the top 10 and if there are, falls into oblivion the next week...So many still consider the PSP as a "Failure" because it's great for its multimedia capabilities, but not so great for its game capability.

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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

Kakarot00769

for the record i wasnt bashing the psp , i own 1 and i just recently added crisis core and gow :coo to my collection .

and no one is bashing you, but I just think you are very wrong to think Nintendo was ever the Underdog. IGN and the like also thought the Wii would never catch on and few weeks after the launch everyone changed their opinion I don't take any news sight for a grain of salt because they will flip flop their view of thing to whatever gets them more subscribers.

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Wow nice i wonder how much it will sell in its life
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

StryderK

Some would call the PSP a "failure" simply because while it sells a boatload of hardware, it's software sales have simply been abysmal! Back in 2006, total PSP software sale for the whole entire year was around like 25 million units total for ONE YEAR! Compare this to DS's 106 million units sold! That isn't a spanking, it's a total slaughter with the DS pouring salt on the wounds for extra measure! Of course this was at the hight of the "Homebrew" days. Now its better but still, look at the charts, except for Monster Hunter (Japan) GOW here, there basically no PSP in the top 10 and if there are, falls into oblivion the next week...So many still consider the PSP as a "Failure" because it's great for its multimedia capabilities, but not so great for its game capability.

Just because games don't sell on it don't mean that there isn't great games on it. Zack and Wiki didn't come up in a top 10 list but it's still kickass game.

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[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

Jynxzor

for the record i wasnt bashing the psp , i own 1 and i just recently added crisis core and gow :coo to my collection .

and no one is bashing you, but I just think you are very wrong to think Nintendo was ever the Underdog. IGN and the like also thought the Wii would never catch on and few weeks after the launch everyone changed their opinion I don't take any news sight for a grain of salt because they will flip flop their view of thing to whatever gets them more subscribers.

This gen have caught everyone's pant's on the ground thanks to Nintendo. Hell, many developers thought that a "PS2 on the go" would sell like crazy so they put all the stops for the PSP, GTA, MGS, Wipeout, Tekken etc should ensure a booming success right? Well, no....Sure the PSP sold well consider other contenders but its software sales leaves alot of people with dry tasty pastes in their mouth (Remember back in the days when Cows used to say that when GTA:LCS comes out, it's over for the DS? Well, when even GTA can't help you take the lead, then nothing will!). Hell, two years ago, EA came out and said they made a mistake by not supporting the DS too much...Kind of like what they are saying right now....You would think with the Wii, they have learned their lesson and would support it from the get go right? Well, a year and more later, develepers are STILL scrambling the shift resources for Wii development despite the DS slapping them in the face! Go figure!

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I think the Abysmal crash of the gamecube steered most devs away from Nintendo consols until the Wii, Nintendo has always been the best in handhelds so I don't see how anyone took it as a suprise that they are running miles ahead of Sony.

What few people take notice...is that the PSP is still here alive and selling, unlike every other companies atempt to even touch the handheld market.

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[QUOTE="StryderK"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

JLF1

Some would call the PSP a "failure" simply because while it sells a boatload of hardware, it's software sales have simply been abysmal! Back in 2006, total PSP software sale for the whole entire year was around like 25 million units total for ONE YEAR! Compare this to DS's 106 million units sold! That isn't a spanking, it's a total slaughter with the DS pouring salt on the wounds for extra measure! Of course this was at the hight of the "Homebrew" days. Now its better but still, look at the charts, except for Monster Hunter (Japan) GOW here, there basically no PSP in the top 10 and if there are, falls into oblivion the next week...So many still consider the PSP as a "Failure" because it's great for its multimedia capabilities, but not so great for its game capability.

Just because games don't sell on it don't mean that there isn't great games on it. Zack and Wiki didn't come up in a top 10 list but it's still kickass game.

I didn't say PSP doesn't have good games.....So stop putting words in my mouth there....All I said is that because PSP software sales are so abysmal, it gives reason for some people why they think it's a "Failure". Also, remember, bad software sales could cost you third-party support. **Read N64 and NGC** This is one reason why DQIX is headed to the DS and why Sony lost MH3 exclusively to the Wii (Something Sony is probably still kicking themselves over considering how well MH2 is doing. Sony could sure use it in Japan to try and keep up with the Wii. but now, it looks like the Wii will pull further away now).

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#27 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Kakarot00769"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

First things first , congrats to Nintendo and the success done with the DS...

Secondly though, many comments (fanboyish ones) are quite irritating, because using this thread to compliment the success of the DS is one thing but bashing PSP is another... I have a PSP and personally wouldn't trade it for a DS, simply because for ME its the better handheld... but thats my opinion..

Only a small amount of fanboys claimed that PSP would destroy the DS but we all know that Nintendo has always been dominant in the handheld dept... Check what happened to others (Atari Lynx, Gamegear, Nomad, N-Cage, Neo Geo etc) they all did fairly (SEGA), or flopped (Atari, Neo Geo, Nokia etc etc)....

Sony was/is the first time they ventured in the handheld sector and personally they did a huge success, nearly 35 million units sold..... how can that be considered a failure? sure DS sold double that amount, but can that be considered news???? As I said Nintendo always been dominant in the handheld sector...

Again congrats to nintendo, but congrats to Sony too for being the first to truly challenge them in the handheld sector... Its always nice to have competition...

Jynxzor

for the record i wasnt bashing the psp , i own 1 and i just recently added crisis core and gow :coo to my collection .

and no one is bashing you, but I just think you are very wrong to think Nintendo was ever the Underdog. IGN and the like also thought the Wii would never catch on and few weeks after the launch everyone changed their opinion I don't take any news sight for a grain of salt because they will flip flop their view of thing to whatever gets them more subscribers.

I would argue that the DS was the underdog in the begging of this handheld gen but after a year when the games started to come out everyone changed their opinion on it and now the PSP is the underdog. In fact the PSP is now such a big underdog that some people still claim it to be worthless and it only has PS2 ports on it. If you start a thread claiming that the PSP is a good handheld that no one should miss you will have hundreds of DS fanboys come in and claim it's a big failure and it hasn't any good games on it, even tough it has a lot of great games they still can't accept it as a great handheld.

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I see what you are getting at, the media portrayed the PSP as a portable PS2 and it more or less is such a device, with more features than you could ever want/need. I got both and I love them PSP preferably...

but again I doubt Nintendo ever had a doubt in their mind that the DS would not be a success...then again in the wake of the Gamecube Perhaps Nintendo was concidering thier stock options until the found out the "Touch generation" was out there ready to spill their wallet to get their hands on this little machine that could.

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#29 JLF1
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[QUOTE="StryderK"]

Some would call the PSP a "failure" simply because while it sells a boatload of hardware, it's software sales have simply been abysmal! Back in 2006, total PSP software sale for the whole entire year was around like 25 million units total for ONE YEAR! Compare this to DS's 106 million units sold! That isn't a spanking, it's a total slaughter with the DS pouring salt on the wounds for extra measure! Of course this was at the hight of the "Homebrew" days. Now its better but still, look at the charts, except for Monster Hunter (Japan) GOW here, there basically no PSP in the top 10 and if there are, falls into oblivion the next week...So many still consider the PSP as a "Failure" because it's great for its multimedia capabilities, but not so great for its game capability.

StryderK

I didn't say PSP doesn't have good games.....So stop putting words in my mouth there....All I said is that because PSP software sales are so abysmal, it gives reason for some people why they think it's a "Failure". Also, remember, bad software sales could cost you third-party support. **Read N64 and NGC** This is one reason why DQIX is headed to the DS and why Sony lost MH3 exclusively to the Wii (Something Sony is probably still kicking themselves over considering how well MH2 is doing. Sony could sure use it in Japan to try and keep up with the Wii. but now, it looks like the Wii will pull further away now).


Sorry, I think I misread your point here.
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#30 Gamerboi27
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PERSONALYYYYYYY i like psp more...and yes i own a ds
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#31 Malta_1980
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I respect all opinions, but I really hate reading posts stating that PSP has no games..... I think though its library is smaller compared to the DS, it still has loads of great games... I wont list some here because everyone knows most of them so dont want to be repetitive...

Both systems have a great library and therefore everyone into handheld gaming should be happy knowing there is some serious competition in this sector... Quality of handheld games has increased this generation and thats because there are 2 x great handhelds in the market..

I think the only sector the PSP lacks is the party/fun games, which appeal to the casual / younger audience.. (dont misunderstand this comment like i'm trying to say DS is for small kids...) Probably the only mistake sony did was focusing on games made for home consoles and port them to the PSP, something Nintendo knows it shouldnt be done... Ok there are games which work fine but mostly dont (FPS games mainly)..

What am sure of is that both handhelds have still much to offer and we shall see more great games coming out on both..

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#32 joeychew
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Of course the PSP is the underdog here. NIntendo has been making handheld seen when? 1989? And the PSP is Sony first gaming handheld. So clearly PSP is the underdog here.
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Of course the PSP is the underdog here. NIntendo has been making handheld seen when? 1989? And the PSP is Sony first gaming handheld. So clearly PSP is the underdog here.joeychew

I guess someone people don't understand that.

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wow, thats a nice and lucky number congrats DS, look out for the climbing psp though!
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#35 StryderK
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wow, thats a nice and lucky number congrats DS, look out for the climbing psp though!Pure_Awesome

LOL, the PSP won't have any chance of ever catching up to the DS. Right now I'm pegging the DS at around 120 million sold when this is all said and done, PSP at around 60 million (Still not bad at all).

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#36 StryderK
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wow, thats a nice and lucky number congrats DS, look out for the climbing psp though!Pure_Awesome

LOL, not gonna happen. Right now, I'm pegging the DS selling around 120 million sold before this is all over, the PSP at 60 million. Not bad but won't get close to the DS. And again, the software sales rear its ugly head again.

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[QUOTE="joeychew"]Of course the PSP is the underdog here. NIntendo has been making handheld seen when? 1989? And the PSP is Sony first gaming handheld. So clearly PSP is the underdog here.jangojay

I guess someone people don't understand that.

But if you look at the technical point of view, the PSP is supposed to crush the ds in that aspect. Thus to call the PSP the underdog is abit off. I will settle for "contender"
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#38 Wintry_Flutist
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[QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

Yeah, now that the PSP has been severely owned, the PSP is the underdog. Why didn't people say that in 2004?

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#39 JLF1
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[QUOTE="jangojay"]

[QUOTE="joeychew"]Of course the PSP is the underdog here. NIntendo has been making handheld seen when? 1989? And the PSP is Sony first gaming handheld. So clearly PSP is the underdog here.taker42

I guess someone people don't understand that.

But if you look at the technical point of view, the PSP is supposed to crush the ds in that aspect. Thus to call the PSP the underdog is abit off. I will settle for "contender"


The DS was the underdog as a handheld technicaly.
Sony was the underdog in developing handhelds though.
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if anything the Ds wins this generation and not because of numbers but rather the games it has.
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i do love the DS
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[QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

but it is the PS brand. they were barely the underdog if at all.
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#43 JLF1
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if anything the Ds wins this generation and not because of numbers but rather the games it has.Cyber-

Meh, perhaps in this gen but compared to GBA it has a long way to go IMO. But it has a couple of years left so it will hopefully get there.
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[QUOTE="taker42"]But if you look at the technical point of view, the PSP is supposed to crush the ds in that aspect. Thus to call the PSP the underdog is abit off. I will settle for "contender"JLF1

The DS was the underdog as a handheld technicaly.
Sony was the underdog in developing handhelds though.

Correct, thus calling either an underdog is inaccurate.
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Congrats DS.
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[QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

No just no. PSP was suppose to be the killer handheld for sony. Just about every analyst journalist thought so.

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[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

Yeah, now that the PSP has been severely owned, the PSP is the underdog. Why didn't people say that in 2004?

Nintendo has been making handhelds for quite a while. This is sony's first....... do you really think nintendo was the underdog here?I guess microsoft wasn't the underdog last gen right?. The only reason people made such a fuss about the PSP was its capabilities as a handheld and we all know the strongest system doesn't always come out on top. *Looks at xbox, looks at ps3*

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#48 Ontain
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Yea because all those gameboy, gameboy colour, GBA etc etc fans are just going to jump to this new handheld without getting a DS first or getting a PSP and not bothering with a DS.. right?

jangojay
that is exactly what everyone thought. hey they did with the playstation right?
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#49 jangojay
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[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="rickjamesxx"][QUOTE="Kakarot00769"]

70.08 million units sold since nov 2004 ...not bad for a system that many claim to be a fad and had worst graphics than ps1 and will be ultimately destroyed by psp and will cause nintendo's death and go the way of sega (yes these statements were being thrown around circa 2003-2005 here in SW ,much like how every1 thinks of the wii as a fad today )

Ontain

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ds was the underdog and look what happened it smash the psp into a trillion pieces

No... just no... the PSP was the underdog since it was sony's first entry into teh handheld market. They also haven't done that bad.

No just no. PSP was suppose to be the killer handheld for sony. Just about every analyst journalist thought so.

And? That's like saying the xbox was supposed to be a killer console vs the PS2. All their statements were based around the capabilities of the system itself. Ignoring the fact that nintendo controlled almost 100% of the handheld market.

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wow..... that's just too much, so far Nintendo has sold .... OVER 90 million of hardware this gen :shock: