Console analog controllers bad for First Person Shooter

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

nchan

Bad no but an inferior tool yes.

If your bad at aiming with analogs then use them more, you will get used to it.

Your having trouble with Halo 3 and Killzone 2? Both games that use auto aim and were built for the controller itself? Sounds more like you just FAIL at aiming thats all.

Well i do prefer controllers for FPS's (mainly because of the trigger :P ) but for RTS's it is ALWAYS on my PC :D

meh, imho PC controls are worse for Shooters but thats probably cuzI was raised with consoles so Im more used to analog then I am the keyboard.

Bad no but an inferior tool yes.

The__Havoc

Totally agree. There are some games that are better played with a controller though.. For FPS keyboard and mouse cant be beaten yet...

I used to play shooters with mouse/keyboard a lot, but one day I broke my arm. I couldn't play shooters on PC anymore because I have to move my whole **** arm to aim. Why does it take so much effort to game on PC? I've been playing console ever since.

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

nchan

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

nchan

Too much skill for you to handle.:)

Beats me. Clearly, at least 8 million people have figured out how to play Halo 3, so it's possible.lowe0

It is nearly 10 million and I would say that only about 500k people out of the 10million are good a the game.

I used to play shooters with mouse/keyboard a lot, but one day I broke my arm. I couldn't play shooters on PC anymore because I have to move my whole **** arm to aim. Why does it take so much effort to game on PC? I've been playing console ever since.

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I used to play shooters with mouse/keyboard a lot, but one day I broke my arm. I couldn't play shooters on PC anymore because I have to move my whole **** arm to aim. Why does it take so much effort to game on PC? I've been playing console ever since.

JangoWuzHere

no but i think that hes trying to say that he was able to only play console FPS's during that time as it used his whole arm to play PC ones, and realized that he prferred the console ones.

good for u. i prefered controller over kb/m except for rts.OPuniverse

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

nchan

i consider it REAL SKILL if you use a controller, any1 can point and click with a mouse or the wii mote, it takes hand-eye coordination to line up enemies in your sight and gat em up. SKILL.

No one ever said they were great. That's why there's autoaim on consoles. ...As for me, I suck equally with controllers and keyboard+mouse... so I'm kind of a lost cause at first person shooters :?

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I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

mocsun23

i consider it REAL SKILL if you use a controller, any1 can point and click with a mouse or the wii mote, it takes hand-eye coordination to line up enemies in your sight and gat em up. SKILL.

You know it's funny... I am willing to admit that PC's have better graphics, better sound, better overall presentation, and a big community. However, I feel that even though aiming with the mouse is great, using the Keyboard in an FPS is horrible. I am pretty decent at both COD4 and COD5 on PS3 and 360 but when I play either one on a PC, I am horrible because of the confusing controls. IMO, it's so much easier having just 2 analog sticks for moving, sprinting, aiming, and using your knife as opposed to having six different keys for moving, sprinting, and knifing. I agree that the mouse is better when it comes to aiming, but overall I would much prefer use a controller.

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I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

JangoWuzHere

i consider it REAL SKILL if you use a controller, any1 can point and click with a mouse or the wii mote, it takes hand-eye coordination to line up enemies in your sight and gat em up. SKILL.

Online they don't, also you can turn them off for campaign.

Well after all the opinions there's a valid reason why you find it hard. The range of movement you have for the thumstick (analog) is *tiny*. This must allow for you to cover the whole screen.

Compare with a mouse, and you have maybe 5-10 times as much leeway. What tends to happen with controller is that you make it sensitive so you can aim ok, but if you do this, your turing will *absolutely* suck, ie be slow. With a mouse you can aim accurately and turn; moreover newer mice have a *dynamic sensitivity* change button so you can change the sensitivity for headshots and rapid turning.

The controller is no comparison really, its a terrible tool for FPS; the reason Halo has the weird slow floaty jumping is to accommodate the how bad the analogs are at concurrently aiming and turning well. People who are good with analogs are kinda like people who learned to shoot well with a musket when PC users are using rifles. If you want to be good at console shooters your going to have to train you muscle memory for your thumbs and your hand-eye co-ordination more; it also helps if you started doing it as a kid.

The range of movement you have for the thumstick (analog) is *tiny*. This must allow for you to cover the whole screen.hywel69

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i consider it REAL SKILL if you use a controller, any1 can point and click with a mouse or the wii mote, it takes hand-eye coordination to line up enemies in your sight and gat em up. SKILL.

Yandere

Online they don't, also you can turn them off for campaign.

good for u. i prefered controller over kb/m except for rts.OPuniverse

Thats not skill just limitations....Especially considering console shooters have auto aim while PC shooters do not.JangoWuzHere

Online they don't, also you can turn them off for campaign.

The Controller didn't bother me too much until i played Metroid Prime 3 for Wii...The Wii would have awesome FPS'...if it weren't for the online which can't handle a lot of people i suppose! Metal of Honor i heard is good...Conduit is too mixed to know, unless you play it. And the fact is, there aren't really that many! I would say this... PC>Wii>DS>PS3/360 for control! DS could easily be number 2 or 1 (i havn't played too many FPS on a PC to know for sure) if it weren't for the fact you run out of room on the DS touch screen!

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

nchan

The Controller didn't bother me too much until i played Metroid Prime 3 for Wii...The Wii would have awesome FPS'...if it weren't for the online which can't handle a lot of people i suppose! Metal of Honor i heard is good...Conduit is too mixed to know, unless you play it. And the fact is, there aren't really that many! I would say this... PC>Wii>DS>PS3/360 for control! DS could easily be number 2 or 1 (i havn't played too many FPS on a PC to know for sure) if it weren't for the fact you run out of room on the DS touch screen!

AmayaPapaya

it's not bad it's just drastically inferior to M/KB

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The Controller didn't bother me too much until i played Metroid Prime 3 for Wii...The Wii would have awesome FPS'...if it weren't for the online which can't handle a lot of people i suppose! Metal of Honor i heard is good...Conduit is too mixed to know, unless you play it. And the fact is, there aren't really that many! I would say this... PC>Wii>DS>PS3/360 for control! DS could easily be number 2 or 1 (i havn't played too many FPS on a PC to know for sure) if it weren't for the fact you run out of room on the DS touch screen!

TheGreatOutdoor

OOPS! Typo...I was thinking of Metal Gear 4at the time lol!

If your bad at aiming with analogs then use them more, you will get used to it.

Yandere

Exactly. After practising for a while aiming becomes effortless.

Its true that you will never get the rapid precision of a mouse but that is why most console games have tons of aim assist.

Eh, its not that difficult if you have only played consoles. I remember buying Halo:ce for pc a while back and not finding the kb/m controls all that amazing like most people say they are.

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I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

mocsun23

i consider it REAL SKILL if you use a controller, any1 can point and click with a mouse or the wii mote, it takes hand-eye coordination to line up enemies in your sight and gat em up. SKILL.

No, it takes way more skill playing the game with your eyes closed, your hands tied behind your back, a tennis ball in the mouth. Fanboy logic ftw.

I am so frustrated. Every time I play a first person shooter on either PS3 or 360, the controller makes me go crazy mostly because of the aiming. I tried Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but after only 10 minutes, I stopped playing because I just couldn't handle the aiming. It's frustrating. I have a lot of fun with Bioshock for the PC and the Conduit for the Wii. But analog controllers for the PS3 and 360 make me want to punch a person on the face. Why does it takes so much efforts just to aim and kill a target?

nchan

it all depends on how the game is designed. A good developer designs the enemies' capabilities around the player's capabilites. I would say that console aiming is more realistic than pc aiming. GunSmith1_basic