Console gaming is so yesteryear ... the end draws near.

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#101 Timstuff
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What's wrong with retrogaming and expanding your gaming horizons?

But hey, keep being bound to just one platform if you wish so...

nameless12345

You can play pretty much every retro game in existence on PC-- in fact, a lot of old game tapes, disks and cartridges don't even work anymore, and the only way you can play them at all is on PC.

I own a lot of retro systems but they're all boxed up, because they were becoming an eyesore and I wasn't using them.

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#102 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

I'd agree, piracy is an industry constant, it'll always be there, in some form or the other. It's much older than the video game industry, so good luck fighting it...

But then again, all the claims about it being a "massive issue" are pure overexaggeration, as far as I'm concerned. The gaming industry is larger than ever, and all the main platforms are enjoying a very healthy developer support and having expansive game libraries. Where exactly is this often referenced "damage" caused by piracy?

Where are the developers who've gone bankrupt only or mainly because of the piracy, how many are there?

Timstuff

The whole argument put forward by the MPAA and their ilk what piracy hurting sales and content creators is complete BS.

They always cite piracy whenever a mediocre movie or game vastly underperforms. Oddly enough you never hear about how much money a movie or game lost to piracy if it's actually good enough to warrant success.

they know it's a bad argument and so they resort to it instead of admitting the product may actually be poor or that it just didn't appeal

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#103 FGMPR
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Hermits like to act as if 1080p or over 24 fps even matters (movies run at 24 btw..haha nerds). They act like PC has good games. Or that monitor is big.


Those things do NOT matter. My 70" HDTV + halo4 makes any pc gaming experience nulll and ovoid.

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#104 GioVela2010
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This thread sucks And so does the TC
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#105 BeardMaster
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i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

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i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

BeardMaster

I was PC gaming at that time. I remember. I remember being less than impressed. I was playing Half Life 2 and FEAR by the time the 360 came out, and they looked better than launch 360 games. Especially considering I was running them at 1280x1024 resolution, which is STILL close to double the res that most console games are at. Then, by the time the 360 starting getting games that looked better than 2004-2005 PC games, I was playing Crysis. So yeah.

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#107 GioVela2010
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i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

BeardMaster
Yep I remember that too. My $500 dOllar X800 got its ash handed to it by a messily $400 console
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#108 BeardMaster
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

the_bi99man

I was PC gaming at that time. I remember. I remember being less than impressed. I was playing Half Life 2 and FEAR by the time the 360 came out, and they looked better than launch 360 games. Especially considering I was running them at 1280x1024 resolution, which is STILL close to double the res that most console games are at. Then, by the time the 360 starting getting games that looked better than 2004-2005 PC games, I was playing Crysis. So yeah.

yea i remember half life 2 and fear graphicsa in camparison to doa4 graphics.

and you wer playing crysis in 2006? with what the 8800gtx? a $600 best gpu of its time.... crysis still looked like garbage in comparison on that gpu, which i owned.

but i see you really wanna be bias.

any pc gamer not blown away by the 360 is a liar... i mean it had multiple 3.2ghz cores... pcs couldnt even dream of 3.2ghz cores.

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#109 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Handheld gaming FTW
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#110 psymon100
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

GioVela2010

Yep I remember that too. My $500 dOllar X800 got its ash handed to it by a messily $400 console

I had an X800. I was disappointed. I forget what I had before it though ...

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#111 kipsta77
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PC gaming is always evolving. Valve's Steam box and Nvidias project shield, i think closes that gap, which never really did need filling, but is still welcome.

This was the last SOLID gen of console gaming, the last gen of muddy, washed up graphics and the last gen of overpriced games and dlc.

Anyone who dosent realise this is in denial, http://psychcentral.com/lib/2006/denial-is-a-powerful-impediment-to-treatment/all/1/

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#112 Sali217
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True, but the irony is that the PC as we know it is at it's end as well.
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#113 BeardMaster
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True, but the irony is that the PC as we know it is at it's end as well.Sali217

yeap, its gonna see a major leap in technology soon. As it tries to keep up with next gen consoles.

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#114 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

What's wrong with retrogaming and expanding your gaming horizons?

But hey, keep being bound to just one platform if you wish so...

Timstuff

You can play pretty much every retro game in existence on PC-- in fact, a lot of old game tapes, disks and cartridges don't even work anymore, and the only way you can play them at all is on PC.

I own a lot of retro systems but they're all boxed up, because they were becoming an eyesore and I wasn't using them.

I do know that.

I also know of the benefits it offers.

Still, it doesn't invalidate retrogaming on the original systems.

Some people just prefer the original experience and don't like any enhancements or similar.

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#115 1080pOnly
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This thread sucks And so does the TCGioVela2010

*Yawn*

As always, your best contribution is nothing at all. Got any more pics of car seats for us?

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#116 1080pOnly
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True, but the irony is that the PC as we know it is at it's end as well.Sali217

I also agree with this. I (currently) call them PC's though as they will be devices with no specific content provider that still compute things where applicable. Cloud based computing does not suit all needs, especially where sensitive data is concerned, so I still see some use for a 'PC'.

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#117 KillzoneSnake
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i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

BeardMaster

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

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#118 superclocked
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

KillzoneSnake

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

If your $2K system was weaker than the 360, then you got majorly ripped off.. Toledo core Athlon 64 X2 + SLI 7800 GTX 512MB > XBox 360...
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#119 1080pOnly
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

KillzoneSnake

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

I wasted £349 on a 360, £499 on a PS3 and £249 on a Wii this gen (I've also replaced the 360 once but I won't count that).

Converting that to $ it's around $1800 before the additional controllers etc. Console gaming sure is the cheaper option! :roll:

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#120 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

BeardMaster

I was PC gaming at that time. I remember. I remember being less than impressed. I was playing Half Life 2 and FEAR by the time the 360 came out, and they looked better than launch 360 games. Especially considering I was running them at 1280x1024 resolution, which is STILL close to double the res that most console games are at. Then, by the time the 360 starting getting games that looked better than 2004-2005 PC games, I was playing Crysis. So yeah.

yea i remember half life 2 and fear graphicsa in camparison to doa4 graphics.

and you wer playing crysis in 2006? with what the 8800gtx? a $600 best gpu of its time.... crysis still looked like garbage in comparison on that gpu, which i owned.

but i see you really wanna be bias.

any pc gamer not blown away by the 360 is a liar... i mean it had multiple 3.2ghz cores... pcs couldnt even dream of 3.2ghz cores.

I didn't say I was playing Crysis in 2006. I said I was playing by the time there was 360 games that looked better than Half Life 2 and FEAR. 2007-2008. And I was playing Crysis with a 7900gt. It cost me a little over $300 at the time, I believe, and it ran Crysis at medium settings, 1280x1024. Which looks better than the majority of 360 games from that time. I'm not being biased, these are just my observations, as a person who's been PC gaming for years, and also has countless hours of experience with both the 360 and PS3. PC gamers who weren't blown away by the 360 aren't lying. It wasn't that great. And who cares about multiple 3.2ghz cores? I'm not playing hardware. I'm playing games. The 360's power wasn't being fully utilized at that time, and the games didn't look any better than PC games. Console games have been getting better optimized over the years, which is why the latest 360 games look better than the ones from that time.

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#121 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

superclocked

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

If your $2K system was weaker than the 360, then you got majorly ripped off.. Toledo core Athlon 64 X2 + SLI 7800 GTX 512MB > XBox 360...

Seriously. Where are all these people getting the idea that the 360 just came out of nowhere and was putting out better graphics than high end PCs at the time. I was there. I had a midrange PC at the time. That's not how it happened.

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#122 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

KillzoneSnake

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

Yah it's pretty dumb to spend $500 on a GPU right now when next gen consoles will put out better looking games.
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#123 cryemocry
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[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

GioVela2010

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

Yah it's pretty dumb to spend $500 on a GPU right now when next gen consoles will put out better looking games.

Sure they will.
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[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

i remember when i built my $2000 Pc in 2004. then 2005 came around and i couldnt believe the graphics of the 360.

any pc gamer of the time remembers. Old worthers remembers.

GioVela2010

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

Yah it's pretty dumb to spend $500 on a GPU right now when next gen consoles will put out better looking games.

No, it isn't, but nevermind me, enjoy setting yourself up for a dissapointment!

Your tears will only taste sweeter when "next gen" footage starts leeking... and no, I'm not talking about tech demos like Samaritan running on high-end PC hardware...

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#125 cryemocry
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new consoles people will have no wait months just for new games.

pc you can run older games at settings that possible before.

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#126 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

yesss lol same thing with me. i wasted 2k as well and then once 360 came out i gave up on pc gaming. 360 was stronger and $400 lol.

the same can be said now. why waste all that money when PS4 will be shown in the next few months :D instead i just bought a nice laptop. its no beast but good enough. plus today im not as nerdy as before so i rather just chill back and enjoy console gaming :P

Rocker6

Yah it's pretty dumb to spend $500 on a GPU right now when next gen consoles will put out better looking games.

No, it isn't, but nevermind me, enjoy setting yourself up for a dissapointment!

Your tears will only taste sweeter when "next gen" footage starts leeking... and no, I'm not talking about tech demos like Samaritan running on high-end PC hardware...

Well it's obviously high end PC parts since 720 isn't out. It's simply the type of hardware that is currently needed to reach the target performance of next gen consoles
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#127 cryemocry
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Yah it's pretty dumb to spend $500 on a GPU right now when next gen consoles will put out better looking games.GioVela2010

No, it isn't, but nevermind me, enjoy setting yourself up for a dissapointment!

Your tears will only taste sweeter when "next gen" footage starts leeking... and no, I'm not talking about tech demos like Samaritan running on high-end PC hardware...

Well it's obviously high end PC parts since 720 isn't out. It's simply the type of hardware that is currently needed to reach the target performance of next gen consoles

ue4.0 tech demo had crappy graphics.
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#128 cryemocry
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cryengine 3 is already better than ue4.0

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#129 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Yah it's pretty dumb to spend $500 on a GPU right now when next gen consoles will put out better looking games.GioVela2010

No, it isn't, but nevermind me, enjoy setting yourself up for a dissapointment!

Your tears will only taste sweeter when "next gen" footage starts leeking... and no, I'm not talking about tech demos like Samaritan running on high-end PC hardware...

Well it's obviously high end PC parts since 720 isn't out. It's simply the type of hardware that is currently needed to reach the target performance of next gen consoles

Just because the 720 isn't out, doesn't mean they're planning to put in the most powerful card from the upcoming AMD 8000-series. How can they even do it, when you take things like pricing, power consumption, etc into the account?

Also, at this point, if they're aiming for a late 2013 release, chances are, they already made all the plans regarding hardware and architecture...

Say whatever you want, console tech has no chance of rivaling PC tech this time around. You may expect a decent jump from current gen consoles, which is perfectly reasonable, but that's about it...

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#130 GioVela2010
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It doesn't need to be more powerful than a GTX 690 or 7990 to have better looking games than PC. All it would need is a 8850-8870
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#131 1080pOnly
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Just because the 720 isn't out, doesn't mean they're planning to put in the most powerful card from the upcoming AMD 8000-series. How can they even do it, when you take things like pricing, power consumption, etc into the account?

Also, at this point, if they're aiming for a late 2013 release, chances are, they already made all the plans regarding hardware and architecture...

Say whatever you want, console tech has no chance of rivaling PC tech this time around. You may expect a decent jump from current gen consoles, which is perfectly reasonable, but that's about it...

Rocker6

I think you're right. Considering dev kits have shipped and developers like Carmack have said they will either compromise on effects or not run at 1080p, depending on the title, then it's a safe bet to say it's not a bleeding edge card in there.

Who cares in the end though, the PC will still get the better versions of MP's, still have many of the best exclusives and still have access to genres the consoles can only dream about.