Console graphics debate over..

http://img2.pict.com/bc/e8/c9/3036963/0/800/96049020100304screen001.jpg

Uncharted 2 has nothing on this, let alone GoW3. Guess all this power comes down to developers. And yes I know it'll look better on PC, but those are the console ss.

Pre-rendered.Revan_911

Pre-rendered.Revan_911

on PC ;)

Seems a little fake to me.

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]Pre-rendered.themyth01

Seems a little fake to me.

rogerjak

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Revan_911"]Pre-rendered.Revan_911

can this game be played from a third person perspective, or only first person?

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]Pre-rendered.themyth01

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlCqNNP8qI&hd=1 (probably from 2006) and final game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGxyxOY8d5g&feature=related

Beside Nomad character (wich can't be seen in the game) those screenshots looks average IMO.

those are the console ss.

themyth01

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Revan_911"]Pre-rendered.Revan_911

HD version: http://www.pcgames.de/aid,686641/Crysis-2-High-Res-Screenshots-in-3840-x-1920-Pixeln/PC/News/?menu=browser&image_id=1254160

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Revan_911"]Pre-rendered.sayonara89

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlCqNNP8qI&hd=1 (probably from 2006) and final game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGxyxOY8d5g&feature=related

Beside Nomad character it those screenshots looks average IMO.

[QUOTE="themyth01"] those are the console ss.

nervmeister

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Since when does Crytek use pre-rendered footage? I don't remember seeing pre-rendered footage in any of their games. themyth01

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlCqNNP8qI&hd=1 (probably from 2006) and final game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGxyxOY8d5g&feature=related

Beside Nomad character it those screenshots looks average IMO.

Look at the HD screnshots (I posted link), cars, trees ect. it looks average IMO, there are better looking games on consoles.

Examples: http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/original/2010/03/crysis2_wip_screens_gamesradar_04.jpg, http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/original/2010/03/crysis2_wip_screens_gamesradar_01.jpg, http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/original/2010/03/crysis2_wip_screens_gamesradar_03.jpg

Crysis can look almost like this video but only with mods, retail game looks faaaaaaaaaaaar worse.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="sayonara89"]

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlCqNNP8qI&hd=1 (probably from 2006) and final game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGxyxOY8d5g&feature=related

Beside Nomad character it those screenshots looks average IMO.

sayonara89

Look at the HD screnshots (I posted link), cars, trees ect. it looks average IMO, there are better looking games on consoles.

Crysis can look almost like this video but only with mods, retail game looks faaaaaaaaaaaar worse.

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Anybody can get a bad video of any game, Crysis does look that good, there are pics to prove it. The shot may look average compared to Crysis, but not console game looks better if those screens are anything to go by. themyth01

Look at the HD screnshots (I posted link), cars, trees ect. it looks average IMO, there are better looking games on consoles.

Crysis can look almost like this video but only with mods, retail game looks faaaaaaaaaaaar worse.

I won't do this becouse I know you won't agree with me :) Also those screenshots aren't rom gameplay and maybe not from consoles, unless console version is rendered at 3 840px × 2 130px :lol:

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="sayonara89"]

Look at the HD screnshots (I posted link), cars, trees ect. it looks average IMO, there are better looking games on consoles.

Crysis can look almost like this video but only with mods, retail game looks faaaaaaaaaaaar worse.

sayonara89

I won't do this becouse I know you won't agree with me :) Also those screenshots aren't rom gameplay and maybe not from consoles, unless console version is rendered at 3 840px × 2 130px :lol:

If you follow the link you can see the original resolution 1280*710, just a little click. But I'm wondering why if you think those screenshots look average then they "aren't rom gameplay".... :?

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Any console game looks average at overblown resolution, find me any console game ss which looks perfect or even as good as this when you oversize it. I'm not saying it's some graphics revolution, simply that it looks better than anything on consoles so far, and it does, according to the screens. Post the screens of gameplay from these better looking console games, I'm quite interested in seeing it. themyth01

I won't do this becouse I know you won't agree with me :) Also those screenshots aren't rom gameplay and maybe not from consoles, unless console version is rendered at 3 840px × 2 130px :lol:

If you follow the link you can see the original resolution 1280*710, just a little click. But I'm wondering why if you think those screenshots look average then they "aren't rom gameplay".... :?

how do bullshots of an unreleased multi plat title title end the debate? every time a new game comes out tons of bullshots come out and for some reason people always think they're real. how do you never learn!?!?!

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="sayonara89"]

I won't do this becouse I know you won't agree with me :) Also those screenshots aren't rom gameplay and maybe not from consoles, unless console version is rendered at 3 840px × 2 130px :lol:

sayonara89

If you follow the link you can see the original resolution 1280*710, just a little click. But I'm wondering why if you think those screenshots look average then they "aren't rom gameplay".... :?

You're not making much sense, are they average or are they pre-rendered doctored images? you got to figure non-gameplay images wouldn't look average unless the developers wanted to make their game look bad. But if they're not gameplay, then you're saying polished/pre-rendered images look average? which game do you think looks better than the average pre-rendered images, must be some game to top pre-rendered images. :roll:

Resolution, AA and probably Nomad character, those elements are doctored, rest is probably in-game, and I'm talking about in-game elements.

Too much AF for a console (no PS3 game I have seen has any AF, don't know about XBOX).

You just feel it in the air that cows are starting to loose ground with their ps3 superiority...First preview says that only thing comparablewith AW on ps3 are KZ2 and UC2,then some brand new pre alphashoots of Crysis 2 come with Crytek constantly saying the game will look the best on all 3 platforms...you just cant help but wonder did Sony lied to us about cell being smarter the us? :D

You just feel it in the air that cows are starting to loose ground with their ps3 superiority...First preview says that only thing comparablewith AW on ps3 are KZ2 and UC2,then some brand new pre alphashoots of Crysis 2 come with Crytek constantly saying the game will look the best on all 3 platforms...you just cant help but wonder did Sony lied to us about cell being smarter the us? :D

Bus-A-Bus

Those are bullshots all the way. The fact you can't see that for yourself TC just makes us here at System Wars laugh and nod are heads.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

You just feel it in the air that cows are starting to loose ground with their ps3 superiority...First preview says that only thing comparablewith AW on ps3 are KZ2 and UC2,then some brand new pre alphashoots of Crysis 2 come with Crytek constantly saying the game will look the best on all 3 platforms...you just cant help but wonder did Sony lied to us about cell being smarter the us? :D

Sollet

Actually they are not...those two obviously have pre rendered character but they are not bullshots...go see the rest of them on in crysis and when you see them in actual size they dont look even as good as Crysis...

[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

You just feel it in the air that cows are starting to loose ground with their ps3 superiority...First preview says that only thing comparablewith AW on ps3 are KZ2 and UC2,then some brand new pre alphashoots of Crysis 2 come with Crytek constantly saying the game will look the best on all 3 platforms...you just cant help but wonder did Sony lied to us about cell being smarter the us? :D

Bus-A-Bus

Actually they are not...those two obviously have pre rendered character but they are not bullshots...go see the rest of them on in crysis and when you see them in actual size they dont look even as good as Crysis...

http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/crysis2_screen1_03042010.jpg

http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/crysis2_screen2_03042010.jpg

lol all of those areover 1080p you honestly think that consoles is gonnapull that off?

Seriously, lemmings thinking that Crysis 2 will end the graphics debate, it won't.

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

[QUOTE="Sollet"] Sigh for all we know those bullshots are PC -alpha you got to be kidding yerself if you think that console version will end up looking even better than those "pre alpha pictures" :roll:Sollet

Actually they are not...those two obviously have pre rendered character but they are not bullshots...go see the rest of them on in crysis and when you see them in actual size they dont look even as good as Crysis...

http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/crysis2_screen1_03042010.jpg

http://www6.incrysis.com/screenshots/crysis2_screen2_03042010.jpg

lol all of those areover 1080p you honestly think that consoles is gonnapull that off?

Seriously, lemmings thinking that Crysis 2 will end the graphics debate, it won't.

just wait... :P

pc screenshots

looks like there's finally a game taht looks better than crysis lol

I'm looking forward to this but I'm not as impressed as you think I should be. Looks no better than Killzone 2, just different lighting.tomarlyn

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how can you say such a thing?

Well, those aren't real gameplay screens so you can go hide your pics. All looks like game fan-art/wallpaper to me and won't have anything to do with the real game graphics.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I'm looking forward to this but I'm not as impressed as you think I should be. Looks no better than Killzone 2, just different lighting.tutt3r

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how can you say such a thing?

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

PAL360

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

Master_ShakeXXX

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

Well, it is. Its also a known fact Sony fanboys dont accept it....

PS3 does have the best looking exclusives at the moment (2, to be more precise in a lineup of hundreds of games). 360 had the best looking games when Gears1 and Gears2 (according to some critics) came out. Its pretty obvious 360 first party devs have other priorities than graphics like more open games, coop, splitscreen, etc. Anyway, it will change soo with games like Alan Wake and Reach.

Its sad that most 360 owners accept both consoles are identicle but PS3 only owners have to claim PS3 is far more powerfull. I call it arrogance :?

[QUOTE="Revan_911"]Pre-rendered.DoomZaW

on PC ;)

WOWWW STOP THIS RIGTH NOW

Crytek Slogan

REAL TIME ALL THE TIME

thiis people are VERY VERY anty CGI/Pre Render

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

PAL360

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

Well, it is. Its also a known fact Sony fanboys dont accept it....

PS3 does have the best looking exclusives at the moment (2, to be more precise in a lineup of hundreds of games). 360 had the best looking games when Gears1 and Gears2 (according to some critics) came out. Its pretty obvious 360 first party devs have other priorities than graphics like more open games, coop, splitscreen, etc. Anyway, it will change soo with games like Alan Wake and Reach.

Its sad that most 360 owners accept both consoles are identicle but PS3 only owners have to claim PS3 is far more powerfull. I call it arrogance :?

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

Master_ShakeXXX

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

Ther is Grate grafics on 360 you guys just dont know whats the difrence betwing grafics and CGI / Pre Render

IN GAME RATAIL VERSION NO CGI NO/ PRE RENDER/ NO PRE GAME the reality during the gameplay

Xbox360 Mass Effect2 REAL TIME GAMEPLAY

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

PAL360

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

Well, it is. Its also a known fact Sony fanboys dont accept it....

PS3 does have the best looking exclusives at the moment (2, to be more precise in a lineup of hundreds of games). 360 had the best looking games when Gears1 and Gears2 (according to some critics) came out. Its pretty obvious 360 first party devs have other priorities than graphics like more open games, coop, splitscreen, etc. Anyway, it will change soo with games like Alan Wake and Reach.

Its sad that most 360 owners accept both consoles are identicle but PS3 only owners have to claim PS3 is far more powerfull. I call it arrogance :?

Also TC, Crysis is a first person shooter yet those screen are in third person...that alone should raise some alarms. All we have right now is bullshots and lies from Crytek. Till we see ACTUAL undoctored gameplay footage this topic am fail.

I'll wait until I see actual console game play screenshots before I make judgement.

wow, for actual gameplay shots there is a distinct lack of player's weapon or any ui visible.

player sucks also he's firing his gun into the ground lolz

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

There shouldnt be console graphic debates. Its a known fact 360 and PS3 have the same capabilities. Its also a fact Wii is far weaker and PC far more powerfull. I dont get why is this so hard to accept!! :|

marcos27pr

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

Ther is Grate grafics on 360 you guys just dont know whats the difrence betwing grafics and CGI / Pre Render

IN GAME RATAIL VERSION NO CGI NO/ PRE RENDER/ NO PRE GAME the reality during the gameplay

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

xX-Incubus-Xx

Well, it is. Its also a known fact Sony fanboys dont accept it....

PS3 does have the best looking exclusives at the moment (2, to be more precise in a lineup of hundreds of games). 360 had the best looking games when Gears1 and Gears2 (according to some critics) came out. Its pretty obvious 360 first party devs have other priorities than graphics like more open games, coop, splitscreen, etc. Anyway, it will change soo with games like Alan Wake and Reach.

Its sad that most 360 owners accept both consoles are identicle but PS3 only owners have to claim PS3 is far more powerfull. I call it arrogance :?

Also TC, Crysis is a first person shooter yet those screen are in third person...that alone should raise some alarms. All we have right now is bullshots and lies from Crytek. Till we see ACTUAL undoctored gameplay footage this topic am fail.

Reach is alot more than just a beautifull game. It may not look as good as Killzone2 or U2 but its technically more impressive. As i said in the other thread, i would love to see PS3 running KZ2 or U2 engines with open world environments, dozens of AIs, vehiclas, splitscreen coop, etc... It would be funny!!!

[QUOTE="xX-Incubus-Xx"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Well, it is. Its also a known fact Sony fanboys dont accept it....

PS3 does have the best looking exclusives at the moment (2, to be more precise in a lineup of hundreds of games). 360 had the best looking games when Gears1 and Gears2 (according to some critics) came out. Its pretty obvious 360 first party devs have other priorities than graphics like more open games, coop, splitscreen, etc. Anyway, it will change soo with games like Alan Wake and Reach.

Its sad that most 360 owners accept both consoles are identicle but PS3 only owners have to claim PS3 is far more powerfull. I call it arrogance :?

Also TC, Crysis is a first person shooter yet those screen are in third person...that alone should raise some alarms. All we have right now is bullshots and lies from Crytek. Till we see ACTUAL undoctored gameplay footage this topic am fail.

Reach is alot more than just a beautifull game. It may not look as good as Killzone2 or U2 but its technically more impressive. As i said in the other thread, i would love to see PS3 running KZ2 or U2 engines with open world environments, dozens of AIs, vehiclas, splitscreen coop, etc... It would be funny!!!

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

No, it's not a known fact. Untill I see the 360 start doing the things that PS3 has BEEN doing (Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, God of War III) and at the same consistant rate, the 360 is NOT on the same level. I wish you lems would stop making crap up.

xX-Incubus-Xx

Well, it is. Its also a known fact Sony fanboys dont accept it....

PS3 does have the best looking exclusives at the moment (2, to be more precise in a lineup of hundreds of games). 360 had the best looking games when Gears1 and Gears2 (according to some critics) came out. Its pretty obvious 360 first party devs have other priorities than graphics like more open games, coop, splitscreen, etc. Anyway, it will change soo with games like Alan Wake and Reach.

Its sad that most 360 owners accept both consoles are identicle but PS3 only owners have to claim PS3 is far more powerfull. I call it arrogance :?

Also TC, Crysis is a first person shooter yet those screen are in third person...that alone should raise some alarms. All we have right now is bullshots and lies from Crytek. Till we see ACTUAL undoctored gameplay footage this topic am fail.

[QUOTE="xX-Incubus-Xx"]LMAO. Halo reach is no graphics king among consoles. I'm sorry but just no.

Also TC, Crysis is a first person shooter yet those screen are in third person...that alone should raise some alarms. All we have right now is bullshots and lies from Crytek. Till we see ACTUAL undoctored gameplay footage this topic am fail.

Reach is alot more than just a beautifull game. It may not look as good as Killzone2 or U2 but its technically more impressive. As i said in the other thread, i would love to see PS3 running KZ2 or U2 engines with open world environments, dozens of AIs, vehiclas, splitscreen coop, etc... It would be funny!!!

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="xX-Incubus-Xx"]LMAO. Halo reach is no graphics king among consoles. I'm sorry but just no.

Also TC, Crysis is a first person shooter yet those screen are in third person...that alone should raise some alarms. All we have right now is bullshots and lies from Crytek. Till we see ACTUAL undoctored gameplay footage this topic am fail.

Sollet

Reach is alot more than just a beautifull game. It may not look as good as Killzone2 or U2 but its technically more impressive. As i said in the other thread, i would love to see PS3 running KZ2 or U2 engines with open world environments, dozens of AIs, vehiclas, splitscreen coop, etc... It would be funny!!!

I know, amd looks amazing. Still its no sandbox and dont have splitscreen. Thats my point