Console power (within reason) matters very little. Quality of games matters!!!!!

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#1 Baurus_1
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Who cares if the PS4 is more powerful than the XBOX ONE? It's doesn't matter!! Both consoles are plenty powerful to run next gen games. Therefore, what matters is the quality of games you like.

For example, I like fighting games and RPGs, therefore I prefer having a PS3 over an XBOX 360. And for next gen, I chose an XBOX ONE first for Killer Instinct, then I will get a PS4 later on when some good fighting games or RPGs come out for it.

What is the point of arguing over specs of consoles each gen when exclusive games and multiplats always end up being comparable in graphics and performance?

Any thoughts on this?

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#2 uninspiredcup
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Console gaming has no sophissticated games and practically all console users have been complaining about graphics and not much else.

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#3 soulitane
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and we can't say for certain the quality of a game until it releases.
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#4 uninspiredcup
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and we can't say for certain the quality of a game until it releases.soulitane

 

Sure we can. It will be exactly the same as this generation but with particle effects and excauses to use DRM.

 

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#5 DJ-Lafleur
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I wouldn't say it matters very little. graphics are important and thanks to all the graphical leaps over the gens games have been able to expand possibilities and become bigger and just overall have more potential. That being said people do put too much focus or importance on it though, and I do feel we have reached a point where graphical leaps have lost their wow factor and just don't seem to be as significant as they once were, as games have already gotten incredibly detailed and some have gotten incredible scope to the point of arguably being superflouos.

I'd like to see game devs make me eat crow though and use next gen hardware to make a game that couldn't be done on hardware before, and in a way outside of graphics.

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Ok OP, have a beer
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#7 LegatoSkyheart
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If you cared about Games, you would have a PC.

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[QUOTE="soulitane"]and we can't say for certain the quality of a game until it releases.uninspiredcup

 

Sure we can. It will be exactly the same as this generation but with particle effects and excauses to use DRM.

 

Nope, that says nothing of the quality of individual games.
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#9 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]and we can't say for certain the quality of a game until it releases.soulitane

 

Sure we can. It will be exactly the same as this generation but with particle effects and excauses to use DRM.

 

Nope, that says nothing of the quality of individual games.

 

Sure it does. Itg says it will be the exact same as it is now but with slightly better graphics. Nothing shown so far at all suggests any drastic change in the slightest when it comes to gameplay lol.

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#10 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

Sure we can. It will be exactly the same as this generation but with particle effects and excauses to use DRM.

 

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Nope, that says nothing of the quality of individual games.

 

Sure it does. Itg says it will be the exact same as it is now but with slightly better graphics. Nothing shown so far at all suggests any drastic change in the slightest when it comes to gameplay lol.

Which doesn't suggest whether a game will release broken or not. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp, especially for someone of the "master race".
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#11 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"] Nope, that says nothing of the quality of individual games.soulitane

 

Sure it does. Itg says it will be the exact same as it is now but with slightly better graphics. Nothing shown so far at all suggests any drastic change in the slightest when it comes to gameplay lol.

Which doesn't suggest whether a game will release broken or not. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp, especially for someone of the "master race".


But it does. Retrospective is one of the great things for predicting future patterns. It's been factually proven to work time and time again lol.

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#12 KillzoneSnake
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What matters is i will not pay $100 more for a console that will end up having no exclusives (like 360) and inferior multiplats.

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#13 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

 

Sure it does. Itg says it will be the exact same as it is now but with slightly better graphics. Nothing shown so far at all suggests any drastic change in the slightest when it comes to gameplay lol.

uninspiredcup

Which doesn't suggest whether a game will release broken or not. It's really not that hard of a concept to grasp, especially for someone of the "master race".


But it does. Retrospective is one of the great things for predicting future patterns. It's been factually proven to work time and time again lol.

Let's see, GT5, previous games all high quality, GT5 releases and it's incredibly inconsistent which wasn't shown before release. Demon souls, got a lot of hate prior to release, turned out to be arguably one of the greatest games of the generation etc. You can't say if a game will be high quality for certain until it comes out, considering the devs can pick and choose what they show.
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#14 ManatuBeard
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I actually find both consoles to be very weak, im just getting the PS4 because it the most powerfull of the 3 nextgen ones, and Sony pumps out better exclusives and for longer (MS abandoned the 360 a few years after launch, dont want to risk that again).

Even the PS4 cant cope with Global Dynamic Lighting in some games where other things are being maxed (according to Capcom tech info of Deep Down), i guess fluid dynamics and ray tracing is totally out of the question for these consoles.

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#15 uninspiredcup
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Let's see, GT5, previous games all high quality, GT5 releases and it's incredibly inconsistent which wasn't shown before release. Demon souls, got a lot of hate prior to release, turned out to be arguably one of the greatest games of the generation etc. You can't say if a game will be high quality for certain until it comes out, considering the devs can pick and choose what they show.soulitane

 

But the other GT games sucked as well. So it was incredibly consistent.

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#16 Bigboi500
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I've been saying that since the Wii came out.

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#17 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"]Let's see, GT5, previous games all high quality, GT5 releases and it's incredibly inconsistent which wasn't shown before release. Demon souls, got a lot of hate prior to release, turned out to be arguably one of the greatest games of the generation etc. You can't say if a game will be high quality for certain until it comes out, considering the devs can pick and choose what they show.uninspiredcup

 

But the other GT games sucked as well. So it was incredibly consistent.

Opinions, so in other words, you don't have a proper rebuttal.
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#18 uninspiredcup
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]Let's see, GT5, previous games all high quality, GT5 releases and it's incredibly inconsistent which wasn't shown before release. Demon souls, got a lot of hate prior to release, turned out to be arguably one of the greatest games of the generation etc. You can't say if a game will be high quality for certain until it comes out, considering the devs can pick and choose what they show.soulitane

 

But the other GT games sucked as well. So it was incredibly consistent.

Opinions, so in other words, you don't have a proper rebuttal.

 

But I used statistics and stuff. You just said "i'm right".

Predicting trends is what drives bussiness. It's what drives console gaming. It's why pc gaming is inspired and better due to it's open nature and console gaming is typically dervivative copy-pasty. It's pretty easy to see from the sexbox launch Microsoft was taking no risks, following a trend. Simples.

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I agree and it certainly seems the Xbox One has the higher quality exclusive games and by some distance too. Ryse looks absolutely stunning, we have a new Halo coming, Dead Rising 3 looks like good mindless fun, I expect Forza 5 to be brilliant and thats without even mentioning the fact that Titanfall, the best new franchise is exclusive to Xbox One! PS4 has nothing to match the quality and no games to warrant buying the console, therefore there is only one console to own next gen, and it is the Xbox One!

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Who cares if the PS4 is more powerful than the XBOX ONE? It's doesn't matter!! Both consoles are plenty powerful to run next gen games. Therefore, what matters is the quality of games you like.

For example, I like fighting games and RPGs, therefore I prefer having a PS3 over an XBOX 360. And for next gen, I chose an XBOX ONE first for Killer Instinct, then I will get a PS4 later on when some good fighting games or RPGs come out for it.

What is the point of arguing over specs of consoles each gen when exclusive games and multiplats always end up being comparable in graphics and performance?

Any thoughts on this?

Baurus_1

I actually agree with TC for once,which is why I choose Playstation.Lots of high quality exclusives and powerfull hardware.Also Sony support their consoles throughout their lifecycle.

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I agree and it certainly seems the Xbox One has the higher quality exclusive games I-AM-N00B

Not even close The xbone has Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Forza, and Ryse How is that in any way shape or form so much better then Killzone, Knack, and Drive Club etc In fact, Killzone alone has me MUCH more excitied then any xbone launch game....and Knack looks real interesting too Let Us not forget how Sony STILL has more exclusives to announce while Microsoft pretty much announced everything they have already lol I bet we see Dead Rising 3 on PS4 in a couple months anyway too lol As it is, the PS4 still factually has MORE games announced for it
Ryse looks absolutely stunningI-AM-NOOB
Ryse is a scripted on rails QTE fest..... Even consideeing that it still doenst look stunning. Killzone ShadowFall is an actual GAME, its levels are OPEN, and IT actually does look stunning
we have a new Halo comingI-AM-NOOB
Whoopty do! Another Halo lol.... What will that be, the 10 Halo game in 5 years now lol... I bet you will also be getting more Gears and Forza sequels too...oh wait you already are getting another Forza...for launch... and its coming with missing features..... Talk about pathetic If you make the mistake of getting an xbone "for the games" expect to have more boring and repetitive shallow sequels of Gears/Halo/Forza shoved down your throat on a yearly basis, like what was the case on the 360, while Microsoft drops support half way into the gen, like they did with the 360 You see, Sony actually supports their consoles until the end. Sony is more willing to take risks, and playstation exclusives have always been of a higher quality and at more diversity....(Not just shooters like on xbox platforms etc) The xbone is short term, while the PS4 is long term. If you want quality and diversity, its playstation exclusives all the way.
Dead Rising 3 looks like good mindless funI-AM-NOOB
Dad Rising 3 looks like a current gen game. Give me Knack over it any day. Knack will actually be fun, and not just a "mindless" variation of fun.
I expect Forza 5 to be brilliantI-AM-NOOB
Forza 5 doesnt even look better then Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3 Plus the fact that Forza 5 will be missing features is unacceptable. Thats not the mark of a "brilliant" game xbot.
and thats without even mentioning the fact that Titanfall, the best new franchise is exclusive to Xbox One!I-AM-NOOB
This is just laughable and considering all the other stupid things you have said thats saying something. Titan Fall looks like Call of Duty with mechs. Its looking underwhelming, and secondly, its NOT even exclusive to the xbone....Will be on PC...and im sure the superior console version will be out on PS4 later.
PS4 has nothing to match the quality and no games to warrant buying the console, therefore there is only one console to own next gen, and it is the Xbox One!

I-AM-NOOB
Ok, now its all but been confirmed you are nothing more then a delusional xbot Like i said, Killzone alone looks much better then any xbone launch game. The PS4 does have a comparable launch line up, i think it is better, Then there is the fact that Sony STILL has more games to announce, and the fact that the PS4 will be a much more long term investment Infamous Second Son is THE MOST next gen looking and playing game in existence, and it is coming post launch...what is the xbone going to have post launch lol Then what about beyond that, Like what i said earlier, Microsoft always drops support for their shitty consoles years before the gen is done etc. That HAS to be taken into account. Sony always shows great support until the end . Now let me give you more reasons why people WILL be wanting to buy the PS4 over the xbone PS4 is an actual GAMING console. The xbone is trying to be more like a cable box etc No mandatory Kinect spy cam The PS4 is 50% more powerful 100$ cheaper Playstation exclusive developers are much better Playstation exclusives are superior etc And i can keep going on and on listing the MANY significant advantages the PS4 has over the xbone The PS4 has been dominating pre-order sales so it looks like the people have spoken If you were a real gamer you would be more excitied for the PS4 seeing that its cheaper, more powerful, and is more of an actual GAMING console How can any one instead choose to opt for the under powered, over priced, anti-consumer piece of shit NSA approved spy box known as the xbone. Makes no sense Its PS4 FTW REAL gamers know though PS4>>>xbone
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#22 ManatuBeard
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I agree and it certainly seems the Xbox One has the higher quality exclusive games and by some distance too. Ryse looks absolutely stunning, we have a new Halo coming, Dead Rising 3 looks like good mindless fun, I expect Forza 5 to be brilliant and thats without even mentioning the fact that Titanfall, the best new franchise is exclusive to Xbox One! PS4 has nothing to match the quality and no games to warrant buying the console, therefore there is only one console to own next gen, and it is the Xbox One!

I-AM-N00B

And what are you going to do 2 years later when MS ditch the X1 and the only support you get is from 3rd parties?

Sony might have slow starts, but they always end with a bang! Just look at all the exclusives coming to PS3 this year!

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#23 NFJSupreme
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when the difference is as close as the xbone and ps4 no it doesn't matter.  When it is far as the wii u is from both of them then yes it does.

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#24 Floppy_Jim
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Eh, whatever. Imagine the PS2 with the power of the Xbox- the ultimate console. Or how much better Wii/U would have been with power equal to PS3/4. More is better; or as much as possible without an insane price.
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#25 ManatuBeard
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when the difference is as close as the xbone and ps4 no it doesn't matter.  When it is far as the wii u is from both of them then yes it does.

NFJSupreme

1.1tflops (after 10% gpu OS reserve) vs 1.84 is not small... its nearly 2x ps3 difference of power.

Considering the visuals of The Last of Us, double that and subtract...

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#26 Aidenfury19
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If power didn't matter then Microsoft PR wouldn't be spending so much time drip-feeding Richard Leadbetter lies to publish.

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This is simple. The extra power will matter for Sony exclusives. It won't have much of an effect on mutliplats. Therefore, get the console you will have more fun with.
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My favorite game to this day is a PC game from 1999. It's called Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and it's f*cking brilliant. If the gameplay is good, I am happy.
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#29 Pikminmaniac
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I completely agree. The most essential and timeless elements of a game: gameplay, level design, and challenge don't require power.

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#30 g0ddyX
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If you want gameplay with no power then stick to pong, tetris and pac-man.

Games like Uncharted, Half Life, Battlefield, Grand Theft Auto have the graphics, design, characters, plot, online, gameplay only with good hardware.

Better hardware makes better quality games, graphics and gameplay.
But some companies go for the cheaper option, and less innovation and more of the same old formula and with little improvement, hardware and in software.

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Perfect example. Minecraft, I've been playing the crap out of it and the graphics are enough to make you puke at first sight. The gameplay takes over and the graphics become nothing to worry about.
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#32 Granny_Spanked
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Neve really been a graphics enthusiast, so I don't get why cows and lems argue over graphics, when PC trumps them both. PS4 exclusives will probably look better than Xbox one exclusives just like last gen, but I doubt we will be able to tell the difference with multiplats. Sony ip's have always been more appealing to me, and that's why I'm getting a Ps4, but I'll still purchase an Xbox One later on.
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#33 moistsandwich
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I agree.. console power only matters if the quality of games is there to make it matter.

Luckily Sony this coming gen. has both, more power & more quality.

The Order 1886
InFamous: SS
Killzone: SF (not personally a fan, but)
THen whatever Naughty Dog does

MS has what? Halo, Forza, Killer Instinct...

Quantum Break - will end up on PC (ala Alan Wake)

Dead Rising 3 - is anyone stupid enough to think this will be exclusive for more than 6 mo?

Titanfall - never was exclusive, though MS would like you to think it is.

Gears of War 4 might get announced... most likely will, but unless Epic signs MS to publish... it could end up multiplat as well... crazier things have happened.

Look at the past 2 years Sony keeps releasing quality titles, MS basically gave up in favor of Kinect 2.0 and the XBAWX1, and they gave up years ago.

I won't be fooled by them again.

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#34 Krelian-co
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Who cares if the PS4 is more powerful than the XBOX ONE? It's doesn't matter!! Both consoles are plenty powerful to run next gen games. Baurus_1

consoles are already outdated and arent even out, and even more so in 4 years, so yes power will matter, when xbox starts running games at 20 fps and ps4 at 30 fps, difference will matter. More power and better games, ps4 wins this gen.

 Also funny lems going for the fake boy route *i had a ps3 but im going xbone this gen* rofl. 

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[QUOTE="I-AM-N00B"]

I agree and it certainly seems the Xbox One has the higher quality exclusive games teambadboy

Not even close The xbone has Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct, Forza, and Ryse How is that in any way shape or form so much better then Killzone, Knack, and Drive Club etc In fact, Killzone alone has me MUCH more excitied then any xbone launch game....and Knack looks real interesting too Let Us not forget how Sony STILL has more exclusives to announce while Microsoft pretty much announced everything they have already lol I bet we see Dead Rising 3 on PS4 in a couple months anyway too lol As it is, the PS4 still factually has MORE games announced for it
Ryse looks absolutely stunningI-AM-NOOB
Ryse is a scripted on rails QTE fest..... Even consideeing that it still doenst look stunning. Killzone ShadowFall is an actual GAME, its levels are OPEN, and IT actually does look stunning
we have a new Halo comingI-AM-NOOB
Whoopty do! Another Halo lol.... What will that be, the 10 Halo game in 5 years now lol... I bet you will also be getting more Gears and Forza sequels too...oh wait you already are getting another Forza...for launch... and its coming with missing features..... Talk about pathetic If you make the mistake of getting an xbone "for the games" expect to have more boring and repetitive shallow sequels of Gears/Halo/Forza shoved down your throat on a yearly basis, like what was the case on the 360, while Microsoft drops support half way into the gen, like they did with the 360 You see, Sony actually supports their consoles until the end. Sony is more willing to take risks, and playstation exclusives have always been of a higher quality and at more diversity....(Not just shooters like on xbox platforms etc) The xbone is short term, while the PS4 is long term. If you want quality and diversity, its playstation exclusives all the way.
Dead Rising 3 looks like good mindless funI-AM-NOOB
Dad Rising 3 looks like a current gen game. Give me Knack over it any day. Knack will actually be fun, and not just a "mindless" variation of fun.
I expect Forza 5 to be brilliantI-AM-NOOB
Forza 5 doesnt even look better then Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3 Plus the fact that Forza 5 will be missing features is unacceptable. Thats not the mark of a "brilliant" game xbot.
and thats without even mentioning the fact that Titanfall, the best new franchise is exclusive to Xbox One!I-AM-NOOB
This is just laughable and considering all the other stupid things you have said thats saying something. Titan Fall looks like Call of Duty with mechs. Its looking underwhelming, and secondly, its NOT even exclusive to the xbone....Will be on PC...and im sure the superior console version will be out on PS4 later.
PS4 has nothing to match the quality and no games to warrant buying the console, therefore there is only one console to own next gen, and it is the Xbox One!

I-AM-NOOB

Ok, now its all but been confirmed you are nothing more then a delusional xbot Like i said, Killzone alone looks much better then any xbone launch game. The PS4 does have a comparable launch line up, i think it is better, Then there is the fact that Sony STILL has more games to announce, and the fact that the PS4 will be a much more long term investment Infamous Second Son is THE MOST next gen looking and playing game in existence, and it is coming post launch...what is the xbone going to have post launch lol Then what about beyond that, Like what i said earlier, Microsoft always drops support for their shitty consoles years before the gen is done etc. That HAS to be taken into account. Sony always shows great support until the end . Now let me give you more reasons why people WILL be wanting to buy the PS4 over the xbone PS4 is an actual GAMING console. The xbone is trying to be more like a cable box etc No mandatory Kinect spy cam The PS4 is 50% more powerful 100$ cheaper Playstation exclusive developers are much better Playstation exclusives are superior etc And i can keep going on and on listing the MANY significant advantages the PS4 has over the xbone The PS4 has been dominating pre-order sales so it looks like the people have spoken If you were a real gamer you would be more excitied for the PS4 seeing that its cheaper, more powerful, and is more of an actual GAMING console How can any one instead choose to opt for the under powered, over priced, anti-consumer piece of shit NSA approved spy box known as the xbone. Makes no sense Its PS4 FTW REAL gamers know though PS4>>>xbone

voicereason...you're not even trying to hide, are you?

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That's why the 3DS is succeeding.
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#37 Suppaman100
Member since 2013 • 5250 Posts
That's why the 3DS is succeeding.bbkkristian
And Wii U failing horribly.