Console shooters are at par with PC? (what if one can use KBM with consoles?)

GEARs of war is not yoru typical shooter, to call it a FPS is a crime for the game.. That being said PCs still have better controls, multiplayer, mod communityand graphcis when it comes to shooters..sSubZerOo

I never mentioned FPS. I said console shooter.

When was the last time you heard of a virus in a mod? I've never heard of such a thing.No mod team would do that. If someone did do that, it would be known instantly among the community, and no one would use it.IndianaJosh

If mod comes from a trusted developer then there is no problem.

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

dk_2007

I have had the same PC for over 5 years now and my only upgrade has been the graphics card (went from 5200fx to 7800GS). I can still run the games you mentioned on medium-high settings (other than Crysis since it hasn't come out). There goes the upgrading argument.

A 9.0 and 9.6 is a fairly large difference. It's only been a year, that's not that long buddy............

PC FPS's have higher standards. PC games are compared to every single PC game ever released, while console games are just compared to other games on that system. If you don't believe me, go look at Gamespot's "How We Rate Our Games" article.....

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

some of my arguments:

Gears of War shows that a Console shooter is an AAA material even after "1 years".

So what if there is a small decrement in the score? When HL2 got released after sometime on XBOX, it got 8.3 and that doesn't mean that HL2 is subpar when compared to other shooters on the consoles.

Before somebody points out at the lack of multiplayer on HL2-XBOX, I would like to say that many games like Bioshock are there that are AAA without the multiplayer. Thus, it is not an excuse for HL2 falling from AAA to AA on XBOX. Again lower graphics are not an excuse because at that time it looked great on XBOX when compared to other games of that time.

Though PC graphics are better of course and I like PC, but am fed up of updating the hardware. I also find windows as boring (But, I dont hate it).

I use Linux for everything including games.

dk_2007

Crysis can be played on a 6800...........

What's your point anyways? You have to buy a new console with all new accessories every 4-5 years also.....

It's like whining becauses GeoW won't work on your Xbox1.........

If you want graphics SAME as consoles you dont have to upgrade...

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

[QUOTE="poovine"]All it takes for me to disregard console shooters is autoaim, giant hitboxes, and slowed down gameplay. Play UT2k4 then go play Halo, it feels like you're playing in bullet time. dk_2007

But shooting with a controller does need more skills than shooting with a mouse. May be thats the reason for autoaim, but its not there in every game on the consoles.

Driving with your feet takes more skills than driving with your hands, so why don't race car drivers use their feet to drive? Using your hands to drive gives you much more control of what your doing, and is an easier translation from what you do with your body (hands) to what the car does on the road. Intuitive would be the best word. Remember, everyone else also uses a mouse and are just as quick and accurate as you. So no, a controller doesn't take more skill.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="dk_2007"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

some of my arguments:

Gears of War shows that a Console shooter is an AAA material even after "1 years".

So what if there is a small decrement in the score? When HL2 got released after sometime on XBOX, it got 8.3 and that doesn't mean that HL2 is subpar when compared to other shooters on the consoles.

Before somebody points out at the lack of multiplayer on HL2-XBOX, I would like to say that many games like Bioshock are there that are AAA without the multiplayer. Thus, it is not an excuse for HL2 falling from AAA to AA on XBOX. Again lower graphics are not an excuse because at that time it looked great on XBOX when compared to other games of that time.

Though PC graphics are better of course and I like PC, but am fed up of updating the hardware. I also find windows as boring (But, I dont hate it).

I use Linux for everything including games.

dk_2007

If you want graphics SAME as consoles you dont have to upgrade...

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

I don't have to upgrade my PC to play FEAR or Crysis, and my PC is more then 4 years old I think

FEAR itself is an old game.

Regarding Crysis: Is your PC playing Crysis with better graphics when compared to some other shooter of the Next gen consoles? I cant imagine the price of that PC when your bought it 4 years ago.

Anyway, I never said that I dont like PC.

Is your Xbox playing GeoW? At least he can PLAY Crysis.......

[QUOTE="IndianaJosh"]When was the last time you heard of a virus in a mod? I've never heard of such a thing.No mod team would do that. If someone did do that, it would be known instantly among the community, and no one would use it.dk_2007

If mod comes from a trusted developer then there is no problem.

Have you ever used mods before? I have NEVER gotten a virus or anything else from a mod. If some mod team decided to do that, like that other guy said, it would known and taken off the mod websites. No website is going to put a mod up that has a virus in it. And no mod team would spend months and years working on a mod but then just put a virus in it. No one would use that mod and they're reputation would be ruined. This is the first time I've heard someone say they're worried about viruses being in mods........

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="dk_2007"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

Do you have some reasons for that?

dk_2007

Mods, better graphics, you can use both controllers and KB&M, cheaper

do they come without backdoors and all?

:question:

I was asking that can they include backdoors or hidden viruses? As some mods may not come from trusted developers.

console shooter are just as good as pc shooters,

hermits are gonna say something like crysis or some crap like that, well my comp could run crysis (on low) but cant run gears on medium, so wat that means consoles could run crysis, I hate hearing this BS about ram and crap, if m,y crappy comp could run crysis then even the wii could *exaggeration* so be done with it, mkb is for pc multiplayers to console mp is controller, so it balances out.

I think we are drifting away from the topic by discussing mods and viruses. It was a simple question (and not an answer) from me. Perhaps its me who is paranoid becauseI keep some very impotant documents on my PC.

And dont forget that the games are still excellent with or without mods.

Coming back to the topic: I agree that multiplayer on PC is altogether a different experience. Though, when I post I keep single player in mind.

I remember playing HL2 on PC. I did not find any difference from the console version to the PC version. (single player)

Many of you say that PC shooters are better than console. Do you own both the next gen consoles and PC to give a valid comparison?

[QUOTE="dk_2007"]

[QUOTE="poovine"]All it takes for me to disregard console shooters is autoaim, giant hitboxes, and slowed down gameplay. Play UT2k4 then go play Halo, it feels like you're playing in bullet time. trix5817

But shooting with a controller does need more skills than shooting with a mouse. May be thats the reason for autoaim, but its not there in every game on the consoles.

Driving with your feet takes more skills than driving with your hands, so why don't race car drivers use their feet to drive? Using your hands to drive gives you much more control of what your doing, and is an easier translation from what you do with your body (hands) to what the car does on the road. Intuitive would be the best word. Remember, everyone else also uses a mouse and are just as quick and accurate as you. So no, a controller doesn't take more skill.

Your argument would also justify the use of autoaim then?

And dont forget that I am not talking about multiplayer. I always say that multiplayer on PC may be more competitive because everyone else can take an easy headshot too.

[QUOTE="dk_2007"]

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

Derek240

I have had the same PC for over 5 years now and my only upgrade has been the graphics card (went from 5200fx to 7800GS). I can still run the games you mentioned on medium-high settings (other than Crysis since it hasn't come out). There goes the upgrading argument.

You first say that you upgraded your card and then say that there goes the upgrading argument :)

console shooter are just as good as pc shooters,

hermits are gonna say something like crysis or some crap like that, well my comp could run crysis (on low) but cant run gears on medium, so wat that means consoles could run crysis, I hate hearing this BS about ram and crap, if m,y crappy comp could run crysis then even the wii could *exaggeration* so be done with it, mkb is for pc multiplayers to console mp is controller, so it balances out.

amorbis1001

You have no idea what you're talking about, the games are completely different engines...

[QUOTE="Derek240"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

dk_2007

I have had the same PC for over 5 years now and my only upgrade has been the graphics card (went from 5200fx to 7800GS). I can still run the games you mentioned on medium-high settings (other than Crysis since it hasn't come out). There goes the upgrading argument.

You first say that you upgraded your card and then say that there goes the upgrading argument :)

I built my roommate a computer 2 years ago with a 7800 GTX and his pc can run Crysis with post processing, texture and object quality on high and almost everything else on medium. He never upgraded within those 2 years.

console shooter are just as good as pc shooters,

hermits are gonna say something like crysis or some crap like that, well my comp could run crysis (on low) but cant run gears on medium, so wat that means consoles could run crysis, I hate hearing this BS about ram and crap, if m,y crappy comp could run crysis then even the wii could *exaggeration* so be done with it, mkb is for pc multiplayers to console mp is controller, so it balances out.

amorbis1001

[QUOTE="dk_2007"]I am not talking about gameplay. I am saying that aiming takes less skill with a mouse. Nevertheless, multiplayer on PC requires more skills for exactly the same reason as the opponents can take head shots easily.Vandalvideo

So your reaction time is on par with some high end pings :). Its good.

It was an average time or the best among several?

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

some of my arguments:

Gears of War shows that a Console shooter is an AAA material even after "1 years".

So what if there is a small decrement in the score? When HL2 got released after sometime on XBOX, it got 8.3 and that doesn't mean that HL2 is subpar when compared to other shooters on the consoles.

Before somebody points out at the lack of multiplayer on HL2-XBOX, I would like to say that many games like Bioshock are there that are AAA without the multiplayer. Thus, it is not an excuse for HL2 falling from AAA to AA on XBOX. Again lower graphics are not an excuse because at that time it looked great on XBOX when compared to other games of that time.

Though PC graphics are better of course and I like PC, but am fed up of updating the hardware. I also find windows as boring (But, I dont hate it).

I use Linux for everything including games.

dk_2007

If you want graphics SAME as consoles you dont have to upgrade...

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

fear runs better on pc on a 6600gt than x360, my 7800gt runs bioshock better than x360 (I can max it out) and low-med settings in crysis is like console settings

[QUOTE="MadExponent"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

some of my arguments:

Gears of War shows that a Console shooter is an AAA material even after "1 years".

So what if there is a small decrement in the score? When HL2 got released after sometime on XBOX, it got 8.3 and that doesn't mean that HL2 is subpar when compared to other shooters on the consoles.

Before somebody points out at the lack of multiplayer on HL2-XBOX, I would like to say that many games like Bioshock are there that are AAA without the multiplayer. Thus, it is not an excuse for HL2 falling from AAA to AA on XBOX. Again lower graphics are not an excuse because at that time it looked great on XBOX when compared to other games of that time.

Though PC graphics are better of course and I like PC, but am fed up of updating the hardware. I also find windows as boring (But, I dont hate it).

I use Linux for everything including games.

dk_2007

HL2 does not play as good on Xbox/360 as it does on PC.

Do you have some reasons for that?

it's clearly stated in the xbox 1 review of hl2, basicly it has a terriable framerate

here is one link that I found: http://gameasylum.us/xbsmsmjoyfrk.html and I guess there exist many such things for 360, PS3 ... etc

Does this adapter look good enough?

[QUOTE="dk_2007"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

some of my arguments:

Gears of War shows that a Console shooter is an AAA material even after "1 years".

So what if there is a small decrement in the score? When HL2 got released after sometime on XBOX, it got 8.3 and that doesn't mean that HL2 is subpar when compared to other shooters on the consoles.

Before somebody points out at the lack of multiplayer on HL2-XBOX, I would like to say that many games like Bioshock are there that are AAA without the multiplayer. Thus, it is not an excuse for HL2 falling from AAA to AA on XBOX. Again lower graphics are not an excuse because at that time it looked great on XBOX when compared to other games of that time.

Though PC graphics are better of course and I like PC, but am fed up of updating the hardware. I also find windows as boring (But, I dont hate it).

I use Linux for everything including games.

Lonelynight

If you want graphics SAME as consoles you dont have to upgrade...

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

I don't have to upgrade my PC to play FEAR or Crysis, and my PC is more then 4 years old I think

But not at max so whats the point?

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="dk_2007"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

some of my arguments:

Gears of War shows that a Console shooter is an AAA material even after "1 years".

So what if there is a small decrement in the score? When HL2 got released after sometime on XBOX, it got 8.3 and that doesn't mean that HL2 is subpar when compared to other shooters on the consoles.

Before somebody points out at the lack of multiplayer on HL2-XBOX, I would like to say that many games like Bioshock are there that are AAA without the multiplayer. Thus, it is not an excuse for HL2 falling from AAA to AA on XBOX. Again lower graphics are not an excuse because at that time it looked great on XBOX when compared to other games of that time.

Though PC graphics are better of course and I like PC, but am fed up of updating the hardware. I also find windows as boring (But, I dont hate it).

I use Linux for everything including games.

Medic_B

If you want graphics SAME as consoles you dont have to upgrade...

when games like Fear, Bioshock and Crysis come out on PC then their (minimum to recommended) requirements need upgrading to even play them.

I don't have to upgrade my PC to play FEAR or Crysis, and my PC is more then 4 years old I think

But not at max so whats the point?

Consoles run games at medium/low settings...

[QUOTE="Medic_B"]

But not at max so whats the point?

True_Gamer_

Consoles run games at medium/low settings...

Have you played on X360 or PS3?