Console war? Where's the war? ... This is a NintenDomination slaughter. Period.

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#51 TREAL_Since
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That's true, but I don't think anyone (cows and lemmings) really care. SInce Nintendo is in it's own little niche I think the battl ebewteen 360 and PS3 is more exciting now.
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#52 dulgn_ps
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actually nintendo is failing on games(except smg andmp3)
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#53 dulgn_ps
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[QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

Erebyssial

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

bu bu i've seen wii's graphics 7 years ago i want new graphics as well as physics

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#54 Erebyssial
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actually nintendo is failing on games(except smg andmp3)dulgn_ps

Zelda TP, Zack and Wiki, Resident Evil 4, Resident Evil: UC, Super Paper Mario, Medal of honor, Fire Emblem, etc, beg to differ. That's merely your opinion or lack of wanting to acknowledge the good games Wii has. Even so, the proper meaning for a failed game is one that doesn't sell well.

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#55 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

dulgn_ps

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

bu bu i've seen wii's graphics 7 years ago i want new graphics as well as physics

You saw Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Bros Brawl 7 years ago? They look better than any game 7 years ago.

Still, if you want HD graphics that's what PS360 is for. My point is that the Wii has shown that you don't need super hardware to be a successful system and be able to make great games. Geez I'm just like repeating my last post..

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#56 rowzzr
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]While Nintendo has all but won the war already, what the hell is the point of this thread? This is no better than any other annoying Pro(console here) thread.surfer_dude_
At least my thread has some grounds in reality... unlike most of the others i see here.

your console only has a few games worth noting for real gamers. fact.

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#57 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="surfer_dude_"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]While Nintendo has all but won the war already, what the hell is the point of this thread? This is no better than any other annoying Pro(console here) thread.rowzzr

At least my thread has some grounds in reality... unlike most of the others i see here.

your console only has a few games worth noting for real gamers. fact.

Read three posts up.

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#58 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="rowzzr"]

[QUOTE="surfer_dude_"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]While Nintendo has all but won the war already, what the hell is the point of this thread? This is no better than any other annoying Pro(console here) thread.Erebyssial

At least my thread has some grounds in reality... unlike most of the others i see here.

your console only has a few games worth noting for real gamers. fact.

Read three posts up.

Your usage of the abbreviation etc four posts up gives the illusion that your list is longer. However the only games I can think of could be added to it are the Trauma Center games. All in all some nice games, but definately not a lot. It doesn't seem that this is going to change in 2008. There are some nice games, but it's no treat again. All in all this makes the Wii a nice console to own next to another HD oriented console.

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#59 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="rowzzr"]

[QUOTE="surfer_dude_"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]While Nintendo has all but won the war already, what the hell is the point of this thread? This is no better than any other annoying Pro(console here) thread.NielsNL

At least my thread has some grounds in reality... unlike most of the others i see here.

your console only has a few games worth noting for real gamers. fact.

Read three posts up.

Your usage of the abbreviation etc four posts up gives the illusion that your list is longer. However the only games I can think of could be added to it are the Trauma Center games. All in all some nice games, but definately not a lot. It doesn't seem that this is going to change in 2008. There are some nice games, but it's no treat again. All in all this makes the Wii a nice console to own next to another HD oriented console.

Well yeah there are games that can be added to the Wii's core gamer list, it's just that most of the time any game listed that gets lower than an 8.0 gets bashed by Wii haters. Then it's all "lulz no dat list phails har har"

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[QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

Erebyssial

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

Unfortunately, Nintendo is missing out on alot (and I mean ALOT) of 3rd party PC\PS3\360 games because the Wii doesn't have hardware on par with the competition.

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#61 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

PS3Compass

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

Unofortunately, Nintendo is missing out on a lot (and I mean ALOT) of 3rd party PC\PS3\360 games because the Wii doesn't have hardware on par with the competition.

If Assassin's Creed can be a DS title I don't see why Wii can't.

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#62 NielsNL
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Well yeah there are games that can be added to the Wii's core gamer list, it's just that most of the time any game listed that gets lower than an 8.0 gets bashed by Wii haters. Then it's all "lulz no dat list phails har har"Erebyssial

Please name some. 2007 games I mean. I'm a Wii owner so why would I hate on you? Maybe there's a game I didn't know of that I could get.

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#63 deactivated-59603ff9b9423
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[QUOTE="PS3Compass"][QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

Erebyssial

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

Unofortunately, Nintendo is missing out on a lot (and I mean ALOT) of 3rd party PC\PS3\360 games because the Wii doesn't have hardware on par with the competition.

If Assassin's Creed can be a DS title I don't see why Wii can't.

I thought that game was vaporware. Anyway, 99\100 it's going to be a horrible port.

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#64 easymoney725
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where the hell are you people getting your information? nintendo is winning the console war? huh. thats news to me. only the kind of news where none of its true and the person telling you that it is doesn't know what they're talking about. whats that kind of news called again? oh yeah. bullcrap.

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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"][QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

PS3Compass

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

Unofortunately, Nintendo is missing out on a lot (and I mean ALOT) of 3rd party PC\PS3\360 games because the Wii doesn't have hardware on par with the competition.

If Assassin's Creed can be a DS title I don't see why Wii can't.

I thought that game was vaporware. Anyway, 99\100 it's going to be a horrible port.



And u know this because u're a game developer?, go back to the sony union board.
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#66 De_Bears
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Wii is nothing more than a brand new cabbage patch doll or a tickle me elmo. Wait and see what happens when people tire of the fad.
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where the hell are you people getting your information? nintendo is winning the console war? huh. thats news to me. only the kind of news where none of its true and the person telling you that it is doesn't know what they're talking about. whats that kind of news called again? oh yeah. bullcrap.

easymoney725
Live under a rock? :lol:
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#68 prodiqy32
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surfer............:cry: always trying to make the wii look better then it is.
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Wii is nothing more than a brand new cabbage patch doll or a tickle me elmo. Wait and see what happenswhen people tire of the fad.De_Bears
in other words.... just wait! lol
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#70 surfer_dude_
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surfer............:cry: always trying to make the wii look better then it is.prodiqy32
I'm not saying anything about how good it is... tastes are subjective... I'm just simply stating that it's dominating the other consoles. deal with it.
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#71 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="De_Bears"]Wii is nothing more than a brand new cabbage patch doll or a tickle me elmo. Wait and see what happenswhen people tire of the fad.surfer_dude_
in other words.... just wait! lol

Wow! That isn't even remotely funny, yet you type lol.

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[QUOTE="PS3Compass"][QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="PS3Compass"][QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

-wii60-

That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

Unofortunately, Nintendo is missing out on a lot (and I mean ALOT) of 3rd party PC\PS3\360 games because the Wii doesn't have hardware on par with the competition.

If Assassin's Creed can be a DS title I don't see why Wii can't.

I thought that game was vaporware. Anyway, 99\100 it's going to be a horrible port.



And u know this because u're a game developer?, go back to the sony union board.

Cause Assassin's Creed is not the kind of game that would be good on any handheld. Let alone the DS.

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#73 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Well yeah there are games that can be added to the Wii's core gamer list, it's just that most of the time any game listed that gets lower than an 8.0 gets bashed by Wii haters. Then it's all "lulz no dat list phails har har"NielsNL

Please name some. 2007 games I mean. I'm a Wii owner so why would I hate on you? Maybe there's a game I didn't know of that I could get.

Well, added to SMG, MP3, the 7 titles I mentioned and Trauma Centre, I can think of:

Battallion Wars II
NiGHTS
Manhunt 2
Geometry Wars (no idea tbh, but it got reception)
Mario Strikers Charged

Not amazing, but didn't get anything lower than 7.0. Even I don't think they're that great, but having fun is more important than scores, and those games were liked among quite a few people. Add VC games and there's even more great stuff.

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#74 Erebyssial
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Wii is nothing more than a brand new cabbage patch doll or a tickle me elmo. Wait and see what happens when people tire of the fad.De_Bears

LOL, please don't tell me Wii haters are still calling Wii a fad? That argument has been pure fail ever since mid 2007.

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#75 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Well yeah there are games that can be added to the Wii's core gamer list, it's just that most of the time any game listed that gets lower than an 8.0 gets bashed by Wii haters. Then it's all "lulz no dat list phails har har"Erebyssial

Please name some. 2007 games I mean. I'm a Wii owner so why would I hate on you? Maybe there's a game I didn't know of that I could get.

Well, added to SMG, MP3, the 7 titles I mentioned and Trauma Centre, I can think of:

Battallion Wars II
NiGHTS
Manhunt 2
Geometry Wars (no idea tbh, but it got reception)
Mario Strikers Charged

Not amazing, but didn't get anything lower than 7.0. Even I don't think they're that great, but having fun is more important than scores, and those games were liked among quite a few people. Add VC games and there's even more great stuff.

Well those games don't add much weight to your list, but you admit that yourself. You are right on the VC point though; nothing beats being able to play the games I grew up with again. Nostalgia is priceless (for the rest.. :P)

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#76 Erebyssial
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I thought that game was vaporware. Anyway, 99\100 it's going to be a horrible port.

PS3Compass

It's from a HD console to a handheld, what more do you expect? Although, I wouldn't say it's gonna be "horrible"

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#78 easymoney725
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where are you people getting your numbers? are you basing who is winning on consoles sold? money made? projected sales? or are you just spouting off at the mouth? if you're gonna say something as definitive as "dominating", shouldn't you have some facts to back it up? sure, i know alot of people who have bought the wii. about half are disappointed, a quarter are under 12, and the rest are still playing wii bowling pretty much exclusively.
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#79 De_Bears
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I don't discount that a developer might make an impressive game for the Wii, but that toady's programmer and developer are not looking at yesterday's technology for tomorrows game.

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[QUOTE="PS3Compass"]

I thought that game was vaporware. Anyway, 99\100 it's going to be a horrible port.

Erebyssial

It's from a HD console to a handheld, what more do you expect? Although, I wouldn't say it's gonna be "horrible"

What I am doing, talking about Assassins Creed on the DS? My orginal point was that the Wii is missing out on alot of 3rd party games.

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where are you people getting your numbers? are you basing who is winning on consoles sold? money made? projected sales? or are you just spouting off at the mouth? if you're gonna say something as definitive as "dominating", shouldn't you have some facts to back it up? sure, i know alot of people who have bought the wii. about half are disappointed, a quarter are under 12, and the rest are still playing wii bowling pretty much exclusively.easymoney725
The winner of the console war has always been decided by the console manufacter with the largest marketshare, Nintendo has sold the most current gen consoles. portables and is the number 1 software publisher. They're winning and quite decively.
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#82 Erebyssial
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where are you people getting your numbers? are you basing who is winning on consoles sold? money made? projected sales? or are you just spouting off at the mouth? if you're gonna say something as definitive as "dominating", shouldn't you have some facts to back it up? sure, i know alot of people who have bought the wii. about half are disappointed, a quarter are under 12, and the rest are still playing wii bowling pretty much exclusively.easymoney725

Yes. This is the gaming industry, which is business. Wii has been hitting record sales and is still going. If a console sells extremely crap but has some good games, does that mean it "wins"? As far as I know, no.

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#83 easymoney725
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so i ask my question again. where are the numbers? prove to me that more wii's have sold than 360s. and whats this crap about the portable market? we're talking about the console wars. nintendos share of the portable scene doesn't seem very relavent to me.
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#84 GARRYTH
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it is a casual fest console. casual things don't last to long. like tickle me elmo. and don't bring upps 2 that system was a hardcore/casual dream. you need casuals but to keep the system going you also need hardcore gamers.

you now it is such a casual console when the lowest scored games out sells the other two. nin will see this and keep on making mario mini games. not bring something new to the table as ip's go.

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#85 dsmccracken
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there is 2 wars this time around

ps2 vs Wii similar in performace

360 vs ps3 HD console battle

last time I checked ps2 has sold about 100 million more consoles than Wii

bigLLL

Listen, I know that the Wii is "underpowered," and I know the industry rhetoric, things like "we don't see ourselves in competition with them", or "the Wii is a toy" stuff. But c'mon, do you actually believe that these companies believe this, that any but rabid fanboys do? That If you asked, 99% of the non-System Wars gaming public would say the consoles currently competing in video games are the 360/PS3/Wii? Are you that divorced from reality? You need to get away from SW once in a while.

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#86 HarlockJC
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dude you are making Nintendo fans look bad
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#87 HarlockJC
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so i ask my question again. where are the numbers? prove to me that more wii's have sold than 360s. and whats this crap about the portable market? we're talking about the console wars. nintendos share of the portable scene doesn't seem very relavent to me. easymoney725

Lets say the Wii has not outsold the 360 has of right now. Besides the month Halo came out the Wii has outsold the 360 each and every month in all markets. Is there any question that the Wii will not outsell the 360? Heck look at Gamestop that sold 1000s of Wii systems for full price last month and those customers will not get them until this month.

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#88 Erkidu
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ps3 and 360 are not competing with the wii! the Wii is so far behind in technology that they are on there own level. Nintendo even admitted that they were not trying to compete with HD and next gen gaming they are all about a gimmicky controller and making ps2 quality games on the wii!cdecrosta03
Haha... This is going to be a stereotypical fanboy excuse until the next generation. "they arent teh competing!1" :roll: Please. On another note, you just complimented the Wii by suggesting that its games are "PS2 quality". ;)
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#89 Erkidu
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so i ask my question again. where are the numbers? prove to me that more wii's have sold than 360s. and whats this crap about the portable market? we're talking about the console wars. nintendos share of the portable scene doesn't seem very relavent to me. easymoney725
Old news. As of August/September - Wii outsold 360 in total worldwide sales. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3162770
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#90 hongkingkong
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Have fun playing sales. When you find yourself sweating trying to get a virtual man to run by frantically waggling a stick like a prat, you'll finally realise that even a fanboy isn't as lame as you are.

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#91 HarlockJC
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Have fun playing sales. When you find yourself sweating trying to get a virtual man to run by frantically waggling a stick like a prat, you'll finally realise that even a fanboy isn't as lame as you are.

hongkingkong

I have had the Wii for a over a year now and still enjoy it. When should I start getting tried of it?

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#92 X_Evo
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Have fun playing sales. When you find yourself sweating trying to get a virtual man to run by frantically waggling a stick like a prat, you'll finally realise that even a fanboy isn't as lame as you are.

hongkingkong

Nice you never played a Wii .. please try again. Fact is Console war goes by market share as of right now Wii has the most market share thus is winning.. all you cows/lems can keep bring up that Wii is new gen thing just to excuse the fact it's beating the 360 and PS3.

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#93 the_h_bomb
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True. Cows and lemmings are just too weak to accept it. They think the Wii is last gen (completely failing to grasp the meaning of the word generation) which makes the domination of their respective consoles go down a whole lot easier

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#94 Ragnarok1051
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Its just surfer-dude, everybody just move on.
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#95 effthat
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

better hardware leads to better software in the long run

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That may be true depending on what kind of gamer you are, the main point is though that it's not needed. The Wii is a successful console without uber hardware, and has already shown that its hardware is enough to produce great games.

Nice graphics for me is a bonus, I don't go out buying or hyping games because they looks great. Lair, anyone?

Unfortunately, Nintendo is missing out on alot (and I mean ALOT) of 3rd party PC\PS3\360 games because the Wii doesn't have hardware on par with the competition.

You have it all turned inside out. The PC/PS3/360 are missing out on A LOT (two words) of the future of gaming because their interface isn't on par with the Wii.

The biggest hinderance in porting mulitplats to the Wii is the interface. I'll conceed that. The biggest reason the Wii is getting is exclusives is it's controls. You can't make a solid Wii game and port it to these other systems.

So the question is who is missing out. The people who get the games that can be played on 3 other systems or the people who get the games that are exclusive? The Wii is an exclusivity magnet. It is truely innovative in an industry that desperately needed change. It is built based on the principles that saved the gaming industry in the 80's with the NES.

Also, lumping the PC,360,and PS3 together is going further to show that the PS3 and 360's are no longer consoles. Their the red headed stepchild of the PC. Their are moving in the wrong direction and are going to be beaten like a rented mule every time. Consoles aren't PC's and will never be able compete in that market. Sony and Microsoft are taking loaded tankers, parking them in their vault, and using them as ashtrays for their huge stoggies. eventually it's going to blow up in their face. PC is king and they are taking out all the things that seperate the console world from the PC world.

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#96 sps9
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ps3 and 360 are not competing with the wii! the Wii is so far behind in technology that they are on there own level. Nintendo even admitted that they were not trying to compete with HD and next gen gaming they are all about a gimmicky controller and making ps2 quality games on the wii!cdecrosta03

you're right, they're not competing in graphics. they're competing in money. and they're winning.

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#97 Erkidu
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Have fun playing sales. When you find yourself sweating trying to get a virtual man to run by frantically waggling a stick like a prat, you'll finally realise that even a fanboy isn't as lame as you are.

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Well, I don't know about playing sales... But I will definitely be playing the GotY. ;) Oh, and if I still cared about looking like a "prat", I'd be in middle school.
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#98 cosmicmouse
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BIG News you geniuses: NINTENDO is wining because its CHEAP, and guess what most of the world is poor, thats why last year PS2 outsold most of new gen consoles, heck in South America PSone is still a popular console..

So yea.. Nintendo is selling more because of it´s cheapness, but If you can afford a PS3 or a 360 + a HD tv + broadband, the Wii is pretty much out of the picture.

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#99 VGuzz
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congradulations on your economic ephonie. You also forgot however that the wii has not been around a decade yet like the ps 1. The wii offers the best price and a uniqe gaming experience that the other systems could only dream of for there next geration machines in 2011. Its so popular and accesable that even local Bars and clubs have daily wii tournaments now. Its a new era in gaming and the other 2 have missed the boat. Yes you're right price does matter. and noone should pay 350-600 dollars for an obsolete piece of hardware when a $250 dollar product is far superior.
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#100 cosmicmouse
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congradulations on your economic ephonie. You also forgot however that the wii has not been around a decade yet like the ps 1. The wii offers the best price and a uniqe gaming experience that the other systems could only dream of for there next geration machines in 2011. Its so popular and accesable that even local Bars and clubs have daily wii tournaments now. Its a new era in gaming and the other 2 have missed the boat. Yes you're right price does matter. and noone should pay 350-600 dollars for an obsolete piece of hardware when a $250 dollar product is far superior.VGuzz

What´s so unique? the Wiimote!?! give me a break...