Consoles are not even close to graphics king.

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#1 mattuk69
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Not king, not prince, not anything! And yes this is a complete troll thread or is it? Maybe i just know the facts....

Crysis

Arma 2

Just cause 2

Dirt 2

The Witcher 2

The Hunter

Bad Compay 2

Shattered Horizon

Just off the top of my head these games are miles ahead in terms of graphics. Even MMO's today surpass consoles corridor shooter graphics. Aion, Final Fantasy XIV, and even old MMO's like lord of the rings online are better looking in most parts.

Consoles play at 1280x720 with no AA use streaming texture techniques and still play at 30 fps! That's a complete joke. There is no genre on console exclusive or multiplatform that doesn't look remotely close to the PC version, if the devs choose to do so. eg just cause 2 PC 16X AF, 8X AA, DirectX 11 at 1080p resolution or higher, destroys UC2 at 1280x720 with 0AA, 0AF and directX 9. Why is uncharted 2 consoles best looking game? Because its a corridor shooter...

So post your bullshots and say your bs about PC with no proof i need a good laugh.:lol: While ill post some real PC in-game screens

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#2 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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No deeplinking FTL, But yes the best of PC graphics are a good jump ahead of anything on consoles. But there really isnt a need for a thread declaration like this, it is pretty well known already.

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this thread will not end well.....
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#4 oldkingallant
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No deeplinking FTL, But yes PC graphics are a good jump ahead of anything on consolesferret-gamer
Yes they are but posters like this are giving Hermits a bad name as graphic-whores. I like the ones who only say that PC has better graphics they don't laugh or look down at consolites. Saying "I need a good laugh" and posting all the :lol: smileys just makes TC look like a jerk.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]No deeplinking FTL, But yes PC graphics are a good jump ahead of anything on consolesoldkingallant
Yes they are but posters like this are giving Hermits a bad name as graphic-whores. I like the ones who only say that PC has better graphics they don't laugh or look down at consolites. Saying "I need a good laugh" and posting all the :lol: smileys just makes TC look like a jerk.

True, we dont need these threads all the time and being more respecful would be good, honestly i didnt even reed the post to see what attitude the TC had.
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#6 SolidTy
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SW isn't claiming Consoles to be Graphics King, they are talking about Console Graphic Kings, because it's boring to talk about Crysis or the subject that the "PC is the Bestest at Graphics forever" all the time.

Last generation was the same problem, we understand the PC dominance, but people will still compare closed hardware as they are closed off from upgrades. Most of us in SW, if not all of us, have known for Years the advantages of PC's NONSTATIC hardware.

However, closed, static console hardware is more interesting to compare, since they are similar in power, and since it's obvious PC is numero uno. It goes without saying.

So, yeah, your thread declaration really doesn't do anything for me or for the SW populace, as you are yelling what most everyone already has understood for years.In fact, I've seen this exact thread by some other TC like clockwork in SW every 2 weeks in SW. Just declaring what we already know.

Also, NO DEEPLINKING at your pics. :P

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This is pretty damn obvious.

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and even old MMO's like lord of the rings online are better looking in most parts.

Consoles play at 1280x720 with no AA use streaming texture techniques and still play at 30 fps! That's a complete joke.

There is no genre on console exclusive or multiplatform that doesn't look remotely close to the PC version,

UC2 at 1280x720 with 0AA, 0AF and directX 9.

Because its a corridor shooter...

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I wonder how PC gamers find time in between all those constant releases of high quality high budget titles for the PC to constantly make anti console threads? :P

And yes there was sarcasm in there somewhere.

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The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.
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The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.raskullibur
And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.
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I agree, but let them have their fun.

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#13 hexashadow13
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Cool. Doesn't change the fact that Uncharted 2 and other console games look great.
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why is PC and consoles compared so much, when no one compares them to iphones/ipads and portable gaming, because PC is not compentition with consoles

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The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.raskullibur

That's hilarious. I run all my games on high/very high settings and I never said anything in this thread until now... >.>

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[QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.ferret-gamer
And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.

Yeah I have a MAC that can handle a lot of games on Medium and High settings. If a Mac can do that I imagine a well built PC can do much more than that.
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The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.raskullibur

If you have integrated video.

Like us poor console gamers.

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#18 Brownesque
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PS3 uses OpenGL. Minor quibble...
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[QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.marcogamer07

That's hilarious. I run all my games on high/very high settings and I never said anything in this thread until now... >.>

You must have a very high end PC when Crysis released?
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Well, on a technical point, of corse a system with new hardware is strong than a system with several years old hardware wins. But when it comes to artstyle I actually discover more unique games on consoles :/

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errrr they fight over consoles graphics, which aren't bad at all and yes a console game was graphics king once. It's called Geow
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PS3 uses OpenGL. Minor quibble...Brownesque

And 360 doesn't use DX9

It has its own DirectX

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Most fanboys (cows and some weird lems) need to realize this. But then again, I play my games for story, gameplay, atmosphere rather than spend time looking at the "pretty faces'
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[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

[QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.raskullibur

That's hilarious. I run all my games on high/very high settings and I never said anything in this thread until now... >.>

You must have a very high end PC when Crysis released?

It was 2007 when Crysis was released. Back then I didn't even have a gaming PC.

Besides, I thought you were talking about now and last time I checked...it's 2010, not 2007.

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Most fanboys (cows and some weird lems) need to realize this. But then again, I play my games for story, gameplay, atmosphere rather than spend time looking at the "pretty faces'Funconsole

This.

The only reasons why I wish I had a gaming PC are RTSes and no more screen tearing,

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[QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.ferret-gamer
And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.

According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.
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Most fanboys (cows and some weird lems) need to realize this. But then again, I play my games for story, gameplay, atmosphere rather than spend time looking at the "pretty faces'Funconsole
come on, you fought over AW having the best graphics on consoles...
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.hexashadow13
And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.

According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.

What you need to take into consideration though is that not all PC gamers are conceited jerks like the OP. What I'd worry about is whether the OP has a decent PC himself rather than generalize every PC gamer into one category.

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[QUOTE="marcogamer07"]

[QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.raskullibur

That's hilarious. I run all my games on high/very high settings and I never said anything in this thread until now... >.>

You must have a very high end PC when Crysis released?

probably costed him 700

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="raskullibur"]The funny thing about PC games are they boasts about those great graphics but in the real world they only play these games on medium or low to make it playable alot of these recent releases of PC games can only be enjoyed with all of its great graphics 1 year from now.hexashadow13
And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.

According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.

Are there monitors with that native rez?

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.davidkamayor

According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.

Are there monitors with that native rez?

Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] And where exactly did you come across this little trinket of information because that is quite incorrect.davidkamayor

According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.

Are there monitors with that native rez?

Lol. Don't you remember? 19" square moniters
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[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.hexashadow13

Are there monitors with that native rez?

Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.

crt and old lcd's run at 1280x1024 nativly, steam does list that around half the people on the service have cards more powerful than what is in a console and around 11% have either a 4850, 4870, 4890, or 487x2 which are fairly powerful.
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[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] According to steam, which doesn't represent the entire majority of PC gamers but should be good enough for comparison purposes, most PC gamers game at 1280 x 1024. Pretty low resolution considering how much PC gamers tout how they can have higher resolution. I also doubt that all of them have rigs that can play the newest games at max settings on resolutions higher then that.hexashadow13

Are there monitors with that native rez?

Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.

Same here, but alot of older games don't support 16:10

PC perfect backwards combattlity my @$$.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

Are there monitors with that native rez?

ferret-gamer

Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.

crt and old lcd's run at 1280x1024 nativly, steam does list that around half the people on the service have cards more powerful than what is in a console and around 11% have either a 4850, 4870, 4890, or 487x2 which are fairly powerful.

So saying that most PC gamers have better rigs then consoles would be wrong.

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

Are there monitors with that native rez?

davidkamayor

Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.

Same here, but alot of older games don't support 16:10

PC perfect backwards combattlity my @$$.

You can still play them, they just look stretched. That be like saying TVs are no longer with older consoles. Doesn't work like that.
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[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"] Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.hexashadow13

Same here, but alot of older games don't support 16:10

PC perfect backwards combattlity my @$$.

You can still play them, they just look stretched. That be like saying TVs are no longer with older consoles. Doesn't work like that.

No alot of games just give me black bars

I'm looking at you Kotor.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="hexashadow13"] Not sure. I've only gamed at 1440x900 myself tbh.hexashadow13

crt and old lcd's run at 1280x1024 nativly, steam does list that around half the people on the service have cards more powerful than what is in a console and around 11% have either a 4850, 4870, 4890, or 487x2 which are fairly powerful.

So saying that most PC gamers have better rigs then consoles would be wrong.

Well that is hard to tell, steam isnt everyone, and they list a good 12 million i think more powerful than console(can remember exact numbers when i calculated). But i put the "other catagory" as not more powerful and that may contain super powerful cards along with crappy ones.

Also depends on definisiton of PC gamer, because if you include cheap home computer used to play farmville then no most PC gamers dont have computers more powerful than a conosle

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

Same here, but alot of older games don't support 16:10

PC perfect backwards combattlity my @$$.

davidkamayor

You can still play them, they just look stretched. That be like saying TVs are no longer with older consoles. Doesn't work like that.

No alot of games just give me black bars

I'm looking at you Kotor.

Eh, that hasn't happened to any of the games I've played so far. And loads of them have been pretty old. Still, you can play them.
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] crt and old lcd's run at 1280x1024 nativly, steam does list that around half the people on the service have cards more powerful than what is in a console and around 11% have either a 4850, 4870, 4890, or 487x2 which are fairly powerful.ferret-gamer

So saying that most PC gamers have better rigs then consoles would be wrong.

Well that is hard to tell, steam isnt everyone, and they list a good 12 million i think more powerful than console(can remember exact numbers when i calculated). But i put the "other catagory" as not more powerful and that may contain super powerful cards along with crappy ones.

Steam doesn't represent everyone , but proportionately it should be close enough. You said yourself just now that about half have cards stronger then consoles. So the other half...
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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] crt and old lcd's run at 1280x1024 nativly, steam does list that around half the people on the service have cards more powerful than what is in a console and around 11% have either a 4850, 4870, 4890, or 487x2 which are fairly powerful.ferret-gamer

So saying that most PC gamers have better rigs then consoles would be wrong.

Well that is hard to tell, steam isnt everyone, and they list a good 12 million i think more powerful than console(can remember exact numbers when i calculated). But i put the "other catagory" as not more powerful and that may contain super powerful cards along with crappy ones.

Also depends on definisiton of PC gamer, because if you include cheap home computer used to play farmville then no most PC gamers dont have computers more powerful than a conosle

but being more powerful doesn't mean it has better graphics

it all comes down to optimization

Look there's no way in hell that a 7800gt should be able to run Uncharted 2 (even at 720p)

but there comes the magic optimization.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]

So saying that most PC gamers have better rigs then consoles would be wrong.

davidkamayor

Well that is hard to tell, steam isnt everyone, and they list a good 12 million i think more powerful than console(can remember exact numbers when i calculated). But i put the "other catagory" as not more powerful and that may contain super powerful cards along with crappy ones.

Also depends on definisiton of PC gamer, because if you include cheap home computer used to play farmville then no most PC gamers dont have computers more powerful than a conosle

but being more powerful doesn't mean it has better graphics

it all comes down to optimization

Look there's no way in hell that a 7800gt should be able to run Uncharted 2 (even at 720p)

but there comes the magic optimization.

i was basing it off of Cards that could consistently put out better graphic than a console in games: 9600gt/3870 and up.
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#43 Arach666
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Ok,all this graphics gloating is getting quite tiresome now.
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Ok,all this graphics gloating is getting quite tiresome now.Arach666

SW is just that though, that's the whole point isn't it? :P

In all seriousness, yes I agree...

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#45 hexashadow13
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[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Well that is hard to tell, steam isnt everyone, and they list a good 12 million i think more powerful than console(can remember exact numbers when i calculated). But i put the "other catagory" as not more powerful and that may contain super powerful cards along with crappy ones.

Also depends on definisiton of PC gamer, because if you include cheap home computer used to play farmville then no most PC gamers dont have computers more powerful than a conosle

ferret-gamer

but being more powerful doesn't mean it has better graphics

it all comes down to optimization

Look there's no way in hell that a 7800gt should be able to run Uncharted 2 (even at 720p)

but there comes the magic optimization.

i was basing it off of Cards that could consistently put out better graphic than a console in games: 9600gt/3870 and up.

Yeah, that's what I assumed. When PC users tout about a large user base, they include farmville and other really small games AFAIK (I could be wrong) so that would be fair imo.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

but being more powerful doesn't mean it has better graphics

it all comes down to optimization

Look there's no way in hell that a 7800gt should be able to run Uncharted 2 (even at 720p)

but there comes the magic optimization.

hexashadow13

i was basing it off of Cards that could consistently put out better graphic than a console in games: 9600gt/3870 and up.

Yeah, that's what I assumed. When PC users tout about a large user base, they include farmville and other really small games AFAIK (I could be wrong) so that would be fair imo.

But the PC does have a large player base, not including the farmville people and such

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] i was basing it off of Cards that could consistently put out better graphic than a console in games: 9600gt/3870 and up.Iantheone

Yeah, that's what I assumed. When PC users tout about a large user base, they include farmville and other really small games AFAIK (I could be wrong) so that would be fair imo.

But the PC does have a large player base, not including the farmville people and such

Not as crazy high as people claim. Cut out the bleh like farmville and I'd say that it only has about the user base of a console.
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Ok,all this graphics gloating is getting quite tiresome now.Arach666
it's now getting tiresome? been happening since this gen started.
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]Ok,all this graphics gloating is getting quite tiresome now.lawlessx
it's now getting tiresome? been happening since this gen started.

Yeah but for awhile it´s fun,now it´s just beating a dead horse.

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[QUOTE="davidkamayor"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]

So saying that most PC gamers have better rigs then consoles would be wrong.

Well that is hard to tell, steam isnt everyone, and they list a good 12 million i think more powerful than console(can remember exact numbers when i calculated). But i put the "other catagory" as not more powerful and that may contain super powerful cards along with crappy ones.

Also depends on definisiton of PC gamer, because if you include cheap home computer used to play farmville then no most PC gamers dont have computers more powerful than a conosle

but being more powerful doesn't mean it has better graphics

it all comes down to optimization

Look there's no way in hell that a 7800gt should be able to run Uncharted 2 (even at 720p)

but there comes the magic optimization.

Wrong, a 7800GT would be able to to run UC 2 and at better graphical settings if they spend time coding the game to that hardware. Console optiminization also means alot of cutting and toning down quality in items, textures resolutions etc. If PS3 had a normal Geforce 7800 gpu with full specs(RSX is a gimped G70 chipset) and 512mb of video memory UC 2 would look alot better, UC 2 isnt all that great looking in all aspects.