UC4 is in its pre alpha stage, half of its graphical features are incomplete or missing so not really fair to include. E3 2015 will be a much better time to judge.
UC4 is in its pre alpha stage, half of its graphical features are incomplete or missingso not really fair to include. E3 2015 will be a much better time to judge.
lol at Crysis to Uncharted 4 comparisons. Said it before but boy are people blind? Are people missing what good lighting actually looks like? Same thing happened with driveclub. It is like pc gamer fanboys need to see light rays for it to look impressive.
obvious answer is yes. pc gpu's intended for Gaming destroy consoles in terms of raw performance as do the cpu's.
Yeah, that's why all Blizzard games for example look like ass, right? Consoles are holding back graphics of WoW. It's not because the majority of PC gamers has shitty PCs.
I haven't been to system wars in months and I still hear the same arguments regarding graphics. Please hermits, give it up....you make yourself sound like scumbags.
LOL I always love this claim, because as we all know no developer could possibly just make a game for the PC only and ramp the graphics up so high only the top 1% of pc gamers could play it....yep they aren't able to do it because of some sort of mind control employed by Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft that keep them from doing it.
It couldn't possibly be that they would only be serving 1% of people and only about 0.01% of that would actually buy the game instead of getting it through illegal means.
2x bullshit, pirates dont hurt sales, DAI and lords of the fallen just proved it
and yes, all pc games have multiple graphical settings so the 1% the 10% and the 70% can play it, in 2011 consoles where severely holding back PC, EA/DICE decided to release Battlefield 3 with ultra settings that only the 1% could run while all the other companies decided to stay on console standarts, 3 years later BF3 is still better looking game on PC than COD AW, thats because COD has been held back by console, too bad for COD fans
If game developers want full blown graphic then they can just stick to PC.
developers want full blowwn sales, there is no reason to set you visuals standarts to only one platform with 20% of sales so they get lazy and make it look about the same on all platforms, no EA Ubisoft Activision boss would agree to fund millions of $ on visuals improvements for only one platform
Let's face it. I see many students trying to game on their laptops that were designed for schoolwork. They're part of the problem too. So, it's not just consoles.
Here is a shot I took with my 8800GT SLI back in the day Crysis no mods.
This. Funny how console gamers keep saying that those are bullshots and modded. Nope, those screenshots are all UNMODDED!!
This is also from Crysis. Crysis graphics is factually overstated. Using mods that can barely run is not a benchmark of industry standard. Anyone can make a moddable game look beyond initial spec but what you and others fail to realize is that these mods are not a representation of the state of graphics in gaming.
If game developers want full blown graphic then they can just stick to PC.
developers want full blowwn sales, there is no reason to set you visuals standarts to only one platform with 20% of sales so they get lazy and make it look about the same on all platforms, no EA Ubisoft Activision boss would agree to fund millions of $ on visuals improvements for only one platform
Here is a shot I took with my 8800GT SLI back in the day Crysis no mods.
This. Funny how console gamers keep saying that those are bullshots and modded. Nope, those screenshots are all UNMODDED!!
This is also from Crysis. Crysis graphics is factually overstated. Using mods that can barely run is not a benchmark of industry standard. Anyone can make a moddable game look beyond initial spec but what you and others fail to realize is that these mods are not a representation of the state of graphics in gaming.
Why you posted lowest settings picture? mods so far boosts fps in fact. and again, i posted unmodded pictures
If game developers want full blown graphic then they can just stick to PC.
developers want full blowwn sales, there is no reason to set you visuals standarts to only one platform with 20% of sales so they get lazy and make it look about the same on all platforms, no EA Ubisoft Activision boss would agree to fund millions of $ on visuals improvements for only one platform
So what is the solution to this?
since wii and casuals we now have 8 years console life cicle and weak consoles, thats the problem
we always had 5 years console life cicle with powerfull consoles so this held back effect was less evident
screw the graphical leap, what about user interfaces and menus? They used to be so efficient and concise, nowadays you gotta flip through 10 different menu screens just to equip your character.
Why you posted lowest settings picture? mods so far boosts fps in fact. and again, i posted unmodded pictures
You wished it was the lowest settings but it is not. Crysis is NOT the graphical standard and has not been for years. Name one mod that improve the games performance while increasing the graphical fidelity? The screens you have used are modded. If a game dev wants their game to succeed they will be considering all of the crappy gaming PCs that are subpar to the consoles in addition the high end PCs that can take advantage of the technology. However, crappy PC tend to dominate. Consoles tend to boost the graphical expectation in gaming more than PC gammes. Every generation since has spurred graphical improvement in PC gaming across the board.
Why you posted lowest settings picture? mods so far boosts fps in fact. and again, i posted unmodded pictures
You wished it was the lowest settings but it is not. Crysis is NOT the graphical standard and has not been for years. Name one mod that improve the games performance while increasing the graphical fidelity? The screens you have used are modded. If a game dev wants their game to succeed they will be considering all of the crappy gaming PCs that are subpar to the consoles in addition the high end PCs that can take advantage of the technology. However, crappy PC tend to dominate. Consoles tend to boost the graphical expectation in gaming more than PC gammes. Every generation since has spurred graphical improvement in PC gaming across the board.
TC I agree with you. Consoles should have used 2.5 - 3.0 TeraFlop GPU's and launched at $500. I really believe that it was Don Mattrick that forced Kinect into the Box which forced MS to use weaker CPU, GPU and Memory configurations.
TC I agree with you. Consoles should have used 2.5 - 3.0 TeraFlop GPU's and launched at $500. I really believe that it was Don Mattrick that forced Kinect into the Box which forced MS to use weaker CPU, GPU and Memory configurations.
No one person creates a product. MS wanted in the living room.....thus Kinect. Don't just blame the mouthpiece.
Why are people acting like a PS4 with a 7850/7870 equivalent gpu could not run Crysis 1? Sure a PS4 is weak and outdated compared to today's tech, but it is absolutely monstrous compared to anything that was out when Crysis released. It could easily max Crysis 1, even with the crappy optimization and dx9/10. Crysis would be a breeze to run if it was remade on halfway decent APIs, especially the low level APIs that are on consoles.
When saying consoles are holding back PC gaming, try not to use a game that can be easily maxed on the system you are arguing against.
TC I agree with you. Consoles should have used 2.5 - 3.0 TeraFlop GPU's and launched at $500. I really believe that it was Don Mattrick that forced Kinect into the Box which forced MS to use weaker CPU, GPU and Memory configurations.
No one person creates a product. MS wanted in the living room.....thus Kinect. Don't just blame the mouthpiece.
You are right, no one person creates a console but the Ultimate decision that led to Kinect being in every box would have been Mattrick's unless he was just a puppet for Steve Ballmer.
Engineers built the Xbox One to the budget alotted them by the CEO's and division managers. M.S. themselves admitted that kinect 2.0 costs almost as much as the console to manufacture. While I must admit that the Kinect 2.0 is pretty damn cool, imo MS should have built a console on a $500 budget and allowed us to buy a Bone packaged with Kinect for $600. This would have allowed people who wanted superior hardware with out Kinect to be satisfied while still offering Kinect TV for the Living room. Choices are good for the consumer and this would have been a much better option to what we have today.
obvious answer is yes. pc gpu's intended for Gaming destroy consoles in terms of raw performance as do the cpu's.
Yeah, that's why all Blizzard games for example look like ass, right? Consoles are holding back graphics of WoW. It's not because the majority of PC gamers has shitty PCs.
Did you really just use a now 10 year old online only pc only game as an example of why games made now in 2014 are not being made for cross platform parity?
Lets use COD, could a very large number of pc gamers (in the millions see NV 680 sales, one of thousands of different cards available) Play cod at even higher settings than their current max if the dev's optimize the pc version to do so? Yes they could if parity and a lack of optimization for the gpus capable didn't exist.
No one is saying that there would not be pc owners that couldn't run these heavenly spec, Where just saying that parity to the existing console generation holds back the max allowed to a degree.
A 5 tflop gpu can do some pretty amazing things if given the proper chance.
Console gamers ask which pc games look better and some hermits present modded examples which are rebuked but its not the fan mod bases fault that their clearly capable pc has not be tested.
If a game can be made to support multiple pc spec why not the very best? Parity to consoles best attempts is a tell tale sign.
LOL I always love this claim, because as we all know no developer could possibly just make a game for the PC only and ramp the graphics up so high only the top 1% of pc gamers could play it....yep they aren't able to do it because of some sort of mind control employed by Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft that keep them from doing it.
It couldn't possibly be that they would only be serving 1% of people and only about 0.01% of that would actually buy the game instead of getting it through illegal means.
Stop this 1% bullshit.
GTX680 came out this year and it sold already 10 million. THIS IS JUST ONE VIDEO CARD FROM 1000 DIFFERENT VIDEO CARD. And GTX680 is more powerful than consoles and card alone costs 400 dollars.
One video card of 1000 video cards, sold 10 million and price was 400 and outsold PS4 and just with few month. OUCH
Actually the GTX 680 came out over two and half years ago...The 780 was a year ago and the 980 came out this year.
Here is a shot I took with my 8800GT SLI back in the day Crysis no mods.
This. Funny how console gamers keep saying that those are bullshots and modded. Nope, those screenshots are all UNMODDED!!
This is also from Crysis. Crysis graphics is factually overstated. Using mods that can barely run is not a benchmark of industry standard. Anyone can make a moddable game look beyond initial spec but what you and others fail to realize is that these mods are not a representation of the state of graphics in gaming.
Why you posted lowest settings picture? mods so far boosts fps in fact. and again, i posted unmodded pictures
Also...I doubt these screens are from Crysis with lowest settings. They could very easily be "very high" settings - Crysis 1's interiors look like garbage. And a lot of these pictures you're posting ARE modded. Crysis does still look good don't get me wrong, but I highly doubt some of these screens you're posting came from your computer using an unmodded version of Crysis. I recently replayed some of Crysis 1 and while is still looks good as I said, it's not nearly as jaw-dropping as it once was and definitely doesn't look like a few of the screens you posted.
Everyone knows PC has the best gfx every gen, why are you shoving this FACT in our faces?
Should I make a thread saying "THE SKY I SBLUE"?! STUPID.
Then you should read this forum posts. Many PS4 owners says that PS4 is more powerful than PC and all PC games looks crap when compared with PS4 games. SO...
LOL I always love this claim, because as we all know no developer could possibly just make a game for the PC only and ramp the graphics up so high only the top 1% of pc gamers could play it....yep they aren't able to do it because of some sort of mind control employed by Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft that keep them from doing it.
It couldn't possibly be that they would only be serving 1% of people and only about 0.01% of that would actually buy the game instead of getting it through illegal means.
Stop this 1% bullshit.
GTX680 came out this year and it sold already 10 million. THIS IS JUST ONE VIDEO CARD FROM 1000 DIFFERENT VIDEO CARD. And GTX680 is more powerful than consoles and card alone costs 400 dollars.
One video card of 1000 video cards, sold 10 million and price was 400 and outsold PS4 and just with few month. OUCH
I think you proved his point...
Uh, no, because that top 1% of PC gamers greatly outnumber next gen console sales. You really only need to cater to the top 1% when it comes to the PC.
Except his statement is incorrect. It wasn't that there were 10 million sales of GTX 680s. And the GTX 680 is like 2 years old now
Everyone knows PC has the best gfx every gen, why are you shoving this FACT in our faces?
Should I make a thread saying "THE SKY I SBLUE"?! STUPID.
Then you should read this forum posts. Many PS4 owners says that PS4 is more powerful than PC and all PC games looks crap when compared with PS4 games. SO...
While I'm very critical of crap interiors in the first half of Crysis, they do get better in the second half even if the game was a corridor-fest by the end.
From this......To this.....and finally, this......
UC4 is in its pre alpha stage, half of its graphical features are incomplete or missing so not really fair to include. E3 2015 will be a much better time to judge.
Every Uncharted and Last of Us so far has looked considerably worse than the presentation footage:
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I recall UC3 was supposed to be the "PC KILLER", but it ended up not even looking better than PC versions of Crysis, Metro, BF3, Batman, etc. (ultra)......Why do you keep falling for the same tricks from Phony?
We hear this argument year after year and it still won't change. Consoles are not holding back anything they are simply products of the market. The consumer has clearly stated they are willing to pay about 300 to 500 dollars for their all-inclusive game box.
when the market speaks the manufacturer's listen and that is why graphics for consoles are the way they are. until the consumer is ready to spend about $800 for a console then nothing will ever change so just deal with it.
LOL I always love this claim, because as we all know no developer could possibly just make a game for the PC only and ramp the graphics up so high only the top 1% of pc gamers could play it....yep they aren't able to do it because of some sort of mind control employed by Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft that keep them from doing it.
It couldn't possibly be that they would only be serving 1% of people and only about 0.01% of that would actually buy the game instead of getting it through illegal means.
Stop this 1% bullshit.
GTX680 came out this year and it sold already 10 million. THIS IS JUST ONE VIDEO CARD FROM 1000 DIFFERENT VIDEO CARD. And GTX680 is more powerful than consoles and card alone costs 400 dollars.
One video card of 1000 video cards, sold 10 million and price was 400 and outsold PS4 and just with few month. OUCH
So much bullshit in one post, wow. The GTX 680 came out in 2012 and it didn't sell 10 million either.
Sauce
The key point here is the ‘GTX680 class’. So, what is a GTX680 class GPU? Our guess is that en-Hsun was using the ‘GTX680 class’ term in regard to the chipset itself (GK104) and not to the actual performance. In other words, this basically means that ten million gamers have bought a GTX680 reference model, GTX680 OCed models, GTX660, GTX670 or a GTX690.
Either way the rest of the cards are still more powerful than what is in the PS4 and Xbox One :P
@FreedomFreeLife: Nice bullshots of Crysis bro. The funny thing is regardless of what mod you use the AA on the foliage in Crysis is terrible. UC4 shits all over the original Crysis and the fact we have pc gamers arguing this shows how pathetic you trolls have become.
It's exactly what cows do with photo mode in DriveClub and InFamous:SS though.
You can easily fix that by using transparency supersampling or by downsampling from 4k. Both of these methods need a good graphics card though, at least a 760 is needed to run max settings.
are you serious? a 760 has no shot using transparency supersampling or regular downsampling. i own crysis and its impossible to play the game at the quality of those e_tiled_screenshot generated screens. downsampling from 4k doesnt get you close.
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