Consoles look good for 5 year old hardware? No its Optimization...

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Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Metro 2033, ARMA 2, ARMA 2:OA, Battlefield BC2, Gothic 4, STALKER Clear Sky, STALKER CoP, Mafia 2...I could go on with multiplats or games like Starcraft 2.

UC2, just like KZ2 and GoW3, are good. They just aren't that good.

theuncharted34

why is your name i5750at4ghz, but you don't see the differences between console games and pc games graphically?

I totally disagree. BFBC2 looks exactly like its consoles counterpart. Same with Mafia 2 minus the physx. STALKER unmdded is an incredibly bland looking games, with horrible character models. Crysis games, Metro 2033, Arma games and total wars games are the few PC titles that truly look like something that couldn't be done on consoels. Everything else is completely meh. Most games give you nothing more than a resolution bump.i5750at4Ghz

I disagree. BFBC2 is a good step up from consoles. I was in the beta for PS3 and rented it before buying it for PC. Pretty big difference. Mafia 2 looks a lot better over its console counterparts. I wouldn't call STALKER bland. Its area is barren and abandoned. A Resolution bump and AA is huge, especially for Wii games. A lot of clairty and some extra detail is more than welcomed.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I totally disagree. BFBC2 looks exactly like its consoles counterpart. Same with Mafia 2 minus the physx. STALKER unmdded is an incredibly bland looking games, with horrible character models. Crysis games, Metro 2033, Arma games and total wars games are the few PC titles that truly look like something that couldn't be done on consoels. Everything else is completely meh. Most games give you nothing more than a resolution bump.ChubbyGuy40

I disagree. BFBC2 is a good step up from consoles. I was in the beta for PS3 and rented it before buying it for PC. Pretty big difference. Mafia 2 looks a lot better over its console counterparts. I wouldn't call STALKER bland. Its area is barren and abandoned. A Resolution bump and AA is huge, especially for Wii games. A lot of clairty and some extra detail is more than welcomed.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Name me 10 PC games that look better.i5750at4Ghz

Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Metro 2033, ARMA 2, ARMA 2:OA, Battlefield BC2, Gothic 4, STALKER Clear Sky, STALKER CoP, Mafia 2...I could go on with multiplats or games like Starcraft 2.

UC2, just like KZ2 and GoW3, are good. They just aren't that good.

its been like this since the nes your point ?

Optimization, which leads to the games still looking good despite the five-year old console generation. In the end, Consoles do still look good for five-year hardware.

iAtrocious

This, this is why console hardware doesn't need constant upgrades like PC hardware.

if a game like Uncharted 3 or Killzone 3 or God Of War 3 was shown in 2006 for the PS3 no one would believe it.

the fact is that, 5 years ago the PS3 can already do graphics like this.

Just because you can crank up a game to 1080p with AA/AF at 60fps doesn't mean it will blow away any console game. Take for example Deus Ex, Freedom Fighters, Singularity, Amnesia, Oblivion, Halo PC, Alien vs Predetor, Manhunt, Alpha Protocal, etc cant stand up to Uncharted 2 at 720p/30fps

great thing about optimization is when next gen rolls aroud the graphics will look ahead from this gen yet use little to no power (Hopefully)

Alot of threads are talking about how console graphics are keeping up with PC. And for 5 year old hardware its looking good.....Well its not. Console hardware is wack and the reason game graphics seem to improve is because of optimization. Credit goes to the programmers.

Here's a pic of a Donkey for no reason.

mattuk69

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Alot of threads are talking about how console graphics are keeping up with PC. And for 5 year old hardware its looking good.....Well its not. Console hardware is wack and the reason game graphics seem to improve is because of optimization. Credit goes to the programmers.

gregbmil

Hmm reading back it does look like im bashing console graphics which im not. Was just trying to say optimization is whats keeping consoles up with the PC. And making games look great and always improved.

No, kidding, wut, really? :/ Duh. That doesn't change the fact that the games look really good for the hardware. rolo107

[QUOTE="rolo107"]No, kidding, wut, really? :/ Duh. That doesn't change the fact that the games look really good for the hardware. True_Gamer_

MGS4 is 1024x768 upscaled up to 1080p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXw-Qlp8P3k&feature=related Post 4:30 Watch in HD. I just had to do it.... Oh and to truly understand how pathetic the 640-720p 0AA console settings are try to connect a PC monitor to a console...The result is vomiting,,,True_Gamer_

I have my PS3 and Xbox 360 hooked up to a HD 1080p PC monitor, looks outstanding....

Well, as already pointed out this is a no brainer, but dont act like PC games arent heavily optimized as well. Not just engine code, but assets as well. For example PC games still have to use normal maps to achieve high levels of surface detail as well. Its not as if PC devs are rigging up 50 million tri + meshes straight out of Zbrush or Mudbox and throwing them at the engine.

sandbox3d

PC games are optimized for a different reason than the consoles (which have static hardware).

PC hardware isn't static, so game devs have to account for 32-bit machines with 2 GB RAM and GPUs back to 2006, to 64-bit Windows, Direct-X versions, graphics drivers for two GPU manufacturers, etc.

That's why it's amazing to see games run virtually error-free out of the box.

I think everyone knows that. Still devs are doing a great job optimizing this gen ;)

I remember, in previous gens, that most console games looked like crap when compared to PC ones.

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no.

well, I explained why the pc can't make console games look last gen, but whatever man. Hey, It's no big deal. The pc beats the living crap out of consoles.

ChubbyGuy40

I can say those looked better with a straight face and stand behind it. Oblivion modded looks good even today. FEAR still looks good too but it showed aged rather quick. Just stating there was never a period were console beat PC visually.

Yes... It is. So? optimization occurs with pretty much every game (for the most part). Even PC games are optimized for set pieces of hardware.

Even so, the games still look good. The reason some look "close" to PC games is due to budgetary constraints, time constraints etc etc placed upon developers.

So if it wasn't for the devs, console games would look bad, uh?? :roll:

GreenGoblin2099

Alot of threads are talking about how console graphics are keeping up with PC. And for 5 year old hardware its looking good.....Well its not. Console hardware is wack and the reason game graphics seem to improve is because of optimization. Credit goes to the programmers.

Here's a pic of a Donkey for no reason.

mattuk69

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXw-Qlp8P3k&feature=related Post 4:30 Watch in HD. I just had to do it.... Oh and to truly understand how pathetic the 640-720p 0AA console settings are try to connect a PC monitor to a console...The result is vomiting,,,Adamantium4k2

I have my PS3 and Xbox 360 hooked up to a HD 1080p PC monitor, looks outstanding....

Yah console games can look ok but I play games on consoles for their exclusives not for graphics so I don't mind worse graphics on consoles.

Heck I still play my DS.

But people who think console games are even close to the big hitters on PC are kidding themselves.

When you first play games like Crysis then go back to console games you will notice a huge downgrade in graphical quality.

But that only matters to those who really care about graphics which ironically a lot of console gamers do.

Just tried Crysis again and even on my old 2007 PC is looks good.

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Yah console games can look ok but I play games on consoles for their exclusives not for graphics so I don't mind worse graphics on consoles.

Heck I still play my DS.

But people who think console games are even close to the big hitters on PC are kidding themselves.

When you first play games like Crysis then go back to console games you will notice a huge downgrade in graphical quality.

But that only matters to those who really care about graphics which ironically a lot of console gamers do.

Just tried Crysis again and even on my old 2007 PC is looks good.

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Hakkai007

Why is your crysis so blurry? mine looks alot sharper, but has a ton of jaggies even with 4xaa. And stop staring at the sun, its bad for your eyes. :P

whats mods are you using?

Why is your crysis so blurry? mine looks alot sharper, but has a ton of jaggies even with 4xaa. And stop staring at the sun, its bad for your eyes. :P

whats mods are you using?

markinthedark

It's not blurry just the sun is so freakin bright.

It's a custom map.