Consoles to hold back pc?

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

Notice the texture in the distance is more blurry in the open gl mode screenshot of quake 1 than software.

starjet905

quake 1 and 2 has the best software renderer for a 3d game.

Developers are just getting lazy by not adding software and hardware support.

quake 1 and 2 has the best software renderer for a 3d game.heeeeeeeeeweeee

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]quake 1 and 2 has the best software renderer for a 3d game.starjet905

Who cares the people who didnt have graphics cards still got to play those games.

best graphics vs lowest graphics it's still the same **** game.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Dont be stupid, the 720 will be a kinect box, is target will be families, core gaming is gone.

tenaka2

Cool story

Link ?

I have links with Epic saying they target Samaritan graphics for 720 and AMD Leo demo and have links that thye said will be Avatar like in visuals

Yeah but its all bullsh*t, it will be aimed at families, MS want to be like the wii, what the point in making games like big budget console games when most of them fail to make profit, the money is in wii titles.

Sure, people that make xbox 720 and its games tell BS, while a random forum poster knows everything about it

True story

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUVXAl0dgYY

Doom3 and 3dfx Voodoo2 (SLI)

LOL OMG THE GRAPHICS DONT LOOK LIKE A MODERN VIDEO CARDS OMG NOW THE GAMEPLAYS DIFFERENT.

NOT

the games not as dark about it alot of people complained about the darkness anyway lol.

you dont even need **** programable pixel shaders

the core gameplay still remains the same.

Lol quake 1 using hardware/video card mode open gl looks more blurry than software.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

lol wrong game

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Cool story

Link ?

I have links with Epic saying they target Samaritan graphics for 720 and AMD Leo demo and have links that thye said will be Avatar like in visuals

loosingENDS

Yeah but its all bullsh*t, it will be aimed at families, MS want to be like the wii, what the point in making games like big budget console games when most of them fail to make profit, the money is in wii titles.

Sure, people that make xbox 720 and its games tell BS, while a random forum poster knows everything about it

True story

Developers are just getting lazy by not adding software and hardware support.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

still looks more blurry than software mode.

just like n64 version of quake 1 blurry as hell compared to pc same display resolution.

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

Developers are just getting lazy by not adding software and hardware support.

AdrianWerner

nope just dont support the pixel shaders on the cpu and performance will speed up.

voodoo2 doesnt even support programable pixel shaders and it can still run doom3.

nope just dont support the pixel shaders on the cpu and performance will speed up.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

I actually thought pc games looked better without all this pixel shader horse****.

There's other ways to go about graphics than that.

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

nope just dont support the pixel shaders on the cpu and performance will speed up.

AdrianWerner

At most software rendersers would be able to achiever the level we had 5 years ago, which for most gamers simply isn't enough.

if u could disable all the pixel shaders in crysis and lower res to like 320x240 or 640x480 cpu could run it at playable framerates.

i gets 7 fps with all the pixel shader **** at 800x600

I actually thought pc games looked better without all this pixel shader horse****.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

if u could disable all the pixel shaders in crysis and lower res to like 320x240 or 640x480 cpu could run it at playable framerates.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

I actually thought pc games looked better without all this pixel shader horse****.

AdrianWerner

nah the environments didnt look as cheap looked more solid.

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

if u could disable all the pixel shaders in crysis and lower res to like 320x240 or 640x480 cpu could run it at playable framerates.

AdrianWerner

who gives a **** about graphics man people can still play the game the core shooting mechanics remains the same and level design.

pixel shaders=2d fire

before pixel shaders we had 3d polygon fire :) LOL

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[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

I actually thought pc games looked better without all this pixel shader horse****.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

nah the environments didnt look as cheap looked more solid.

who gives a **** about graphics man people can still play the game the core shooting mechanics remains the same and level design.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

[QUOTE="heeeeeeeeeweeee"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Ughh...really? Lack of pixel shaders would make games look pretty horrible.

AdrianWerner

nah the environments didnt look as cheap looked more solid.

it doesnt look bad from a distance no worse than a 2d flame that turns when u move like duke nukem 3d spirtes.

plus u can animate polygons more now like drakes hair in uncharted is animated it moves its made out of polygons.

plus u can animate polygons more now like drakes hair in uncharted is animated it moves its made out of polygons.

heeeeeeeeeweeee

If anything, when new consoles arrive, we will see games actually using PC hardware fully, than use only 1% of it

If anything, when new consoles arrive, we will see games actually using PC hardware fully, than use only 1% of it

loosingENDS

I never understand this idea.

My graphics look incredible, but they could look a little better if the devs were PC focused instead of console focused. That's the entire base of this argument really.

So.. my games look better than console, arguably play better than console, there's 10x more games available on PC, mods, and I could go on.

But because my uber graphics could be a little more... uber-er PC gaming as a whole is held back? Really?

Be thankful for what you got dammit. Sh!t already looks amazing.

MLBknights58

Nobody wants to make a game that only %1 of PC's can run.

Kinda shrinks the market ya know.

LazySloth718

The number of PC's in the world was estimated at over 1 billion in 2008. You're saying only 1 million PC's can run these games?

Cutting-edge PC hardware will always be underutilized, period. There simply aren't enough cutting-edge rigs out there to make it warrant to make games that would push them to the fullest. Crysis was the last example of a PC game that made the latest graphics cards "beg for mercy" and I don't see anyone repeating Crysis anytime soon.

thats how the console roll....

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

wis3boi

/loosingENDs

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

/loosingENDs

Minimum specifications and piracy hold back PC gaming.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

/loosingENDs

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

/loosingENDs

For sure.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"] 720p is smaller, more blurry, and more cinematic etc etc. :PDamnsmooth

/loosingENDs

For sure.

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

You know your eyes can't even see the difference between that and 1080... right?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

magnax1

You know your eyes can't even see the difference between that and 1080... right?

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

You know your eyes can't even see the difference between that and 1080... right?

Misinformation.

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

I game at 1200p now...and it's demanding, of course stronger hardware for PC is needed.

mitu123

You know your eyes can't even see the difference between that and 1080... right?

Just kidding, I'm only at 1080p myself, but I have no problem admitting that 1200p looks better.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

You know your eyes can't even see the difference between that and 1080... right?

magnax1

Misinformation.

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Then why do I prefer 1200p to 1080p?

mitu123

Misinformation.

The actual resolution difference between 1200p and 1080p is literally impossible to differentiate (especially on a 28 inch screen) That's not to say your 1200p monitor is not better then other 1080p monitors. It's just that the resolution isn't making any difference, it's the other aspects of the screen.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="magnax1"]

Misinformation.

magnax1

The actual resolution difference between 1200p and 1080p is literally impossible to differentiate (especially on a 28 inch screen) That's not to say your 1200p monitor is not better then other 1080p monitors. It's just that the resolution isn't making any difference, it's the other aspects of the screen.