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#101 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Because score isn't the only factor they look at.
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#102 XturnalS
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[QUOTE="XturnalS"]

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

But you played the console version, so you don't really have an accurate idea of what the game really is. The PC version is very different.

SaltyMeatballs

content and gameplay wise? probably not.

Graphics and UI (which may alter the gameplay a bit) But other than that I don't see that huge of a difference between the console and PC versions. Its a .5 difference not a 5 point difference.

PC gameplay was very different, at least the battles. A lot more enjoyable.

How so? I'd honestly like to know because for me its: pause queue up some attacks, unpause, fighting happens, do some real time button presses for spells/attacks, pause if I'm getting overwhelmed, queue up potions/healing spells, unpause, and finish fight.

Rinse repeat. Is it drastically different from that?

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#103 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Well Dragon Age should have been in the As, the game is very old school and doesn't do anything new to the genre, add to that the awful graphics, bugs and framerate issues in both 360 and PS3 consoles, clunky gameplay mechanics and you get an overrated trash.

Skittles_McGee

and a somewhat challenging Action RPG Does DO something new to the genre?

Demon's Souls? Yes actually, it does. Nearly all of the Demon's Souls online features are new to the genre, hence part of the reason it won the award for Best Original Game Mechanic. It innovates in some ways.

This is exactly what I wanted to say.

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#104 Nerkcon
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A bit off topic but how is DAO an action RPG? I mean... Turn based: It's definitely not this but... Action: You have to be able to attack at will to be this. Even though you don't have to pause it, doesn't it work like BG and WoW were you attack on some sort of timer(or 'rounds' as BG calls it)? I'd not call that action. We need a middle term IMO. Let me see if I can explain this better... In a fighter game for example, a character will punch as soon as you press the punch button, every time, unless interrupted by the opponent. In WoW To swing your sword you have to wait second to 3 second and a half depending on you weapon speed. So you 2.5 seconds, you swing, wait for another 2.5 seconds, then you character swings again. You can't really call that action if you don't control it directly, IMO at least.
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#105 nhh18
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It is an opinion. Get used to seeing people having different opinions. Not everyone has some agenda towards one console or another. Most people don't care.

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#106 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Well Dragon Age should have been in the As, the game is very old school and doesn't do anything new to the genre, add to that the awful graphics, bugs and framerate issues in both 360 and PS3 consoles, clunky gameplay mechanics and you get an overrated trash.

Skittles_McGee

and a somewhat challenging Action RPG Does DO something new to the genre?

Demon's Souls? Yes actually, it does. Nearly all of the Demon's Souls online features are new to the genre, hence part of the reason it won the award for Best Original Game Mechanic. It innovates in some ways.

like reading messages that state "be wary of fall ahead" in front of pits that most intelligent people would've already guessed meant death obviously if you drop down?...i'm sure bioware is real sorry they didnt implement that "unique" innovation into DA.

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#107 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

and a somewhat challenging Action RPG Does DO something new to the genre?

Kandlegoat

Demon's Souls? Yes actually, it does. Nearly all of the Demon's Souls online features are new to the genre, hence part of the reason it won the award for Best Original Game Mechanic. It innovates in some ways.

like reading messages that state "be wary of fall ahead" in front of pits that most intelligent people would've already guessed meant death obviously if you drop down?...i'm sure bioware is real sorry they didnt implement that "unique" innovation into DA.

Call it what you want, but it is something new. There's also the way different players interact such as Black Phantoms, as an easy example. You can downplay it all night. It brought something new.
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#108 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Demon's Souls? Yes actually, it does. Nearly all of the Demon's Souls online features are new to the genre, hence part of the reason it won the award for Best Original Game Mechanic. It innovates in some ways.Skittles_McGee

like reading messages that state "be wary of fall ahead" in front of pits that most intelligent people would've already guessed meant death obviously if you drop down?...i'm sure bioware is real sorry they didnt implement that "unique" innovation into DA.

Call it what you want, but it is something new. There's also the way different players interact such as Black Phantoms, as an easy example. You can downplay it all night. It brought something new.

PvP has been around forever....You don't play many RPGs,do you?

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#109 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

like reading messages that state "be wary of fall ahead" in front of pits that most intelligent people would've already guessed meant death obviously if you drop down?...i'm sure bioware is real sorry they didnt implement that "unique" innovation into DA.

Kandlegoat

Call it what you want, but it is something new. There's also the way different players interact such as Black Phantoms, as an easy example. You can downplay it all night. It brought something new.

PvP has been around forever....You don't play many RPGs,do you?

I've been playing RPGs for a very long time. The way Black Phantoms actually work, if you bothered to recognize that, is different than PvP we've normally had. Instead of trying to discredit my "knowledge" of RPGs, you could just agree that Demon's Souls does bring some new ideas to the table in some form or another. There are features in the game that either we haven't seen in their current form, or have seen very precious little of.
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#110 Revolution316
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]That is what's puzzling to me as well. I've played and beaten both, and I can say that DAO is easily better than Demon's Soul's. But just remember that this is the same site that said MGS4 had better graphics than Crysis: Warhead.mirriorman

gametrailers also gave rpg of the year to DS. so its not only GS. theres no way a turnbased boring sleeping pill of an rpg can beat a action rpg.

that action rpg had hardly any depth to it and i pefer the dao combat style rather than button mashing myself

button mashing???? im guessing you never played DS and that your words are coming from your rear end. go try button mashing in the first level and see how far you get.

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#111 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Call it what you want, but it is something new. There's also the way different players interact such as Black Phantoms, as an easy example. You can downplay it all night. It brought something new.Skittles_McGee

PvP has been around forever....You don't play many RPGs,do you?

I've been playing RPGs for a very long time. The way Black Phantoms actually work, if you bothered to recognize that, is different than PvP we've normally had. Instead of trying to discredit my "knowledge" of RPGs, you could just agree that Demon's Souls does bring some new ideas to the table in some form or another. There are features in the game that either we haven't seen in their current form, or have seen very precious little of.

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#112 psn8214
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Haven't played either, so no comment from me...

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#113 Haito_81
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What I really dont understand didnt all the people claiming that Demon Souls didnt deserved the award But believe 90% of the havent even touched the Game I dont thing they have even seen soneone playing it Soo The **** can you say that this game deserved it and this one not When you even havent touched one of the games?

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#114 mirriorman
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[QUOTE="mirriorman"]

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]gametrailers also gave rpg of the year to DS. so its not only GS. theres no way a turnbased boring sleeping pill of an rpg can beat a action rpg.

Revolution316

that action rpg had hardly any depth to it and i pefer the dao combat style rather than button mashing myself

button mashing???? im guessing you never played DS and that your words are coming from your rear end. go try button mashing in the first level and see how far you get.

try going waiting for your turn in dao as say a rouge

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#115 Hexagon_777
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The score is given by an individual reviewer, while the editorial board decides on the overall best game.iggyb387

Much like Metacritic and GameRankings where the industry decides the overall best game.

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#116 AAllxxjjnn
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What I really dont understand didnt all the people claiming that Demon Souls didnt deserved the award But believe 90% of the havent even touched the Game I dont thing they have even seen soneone playing it Soo The **** can you say that this game deserved it and this one not When you even havent touched one of the games?

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You don't really know who's played it or not, cause, this is the internet.
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#117 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Since when 9.5 < 9.0


How could Gamespot so impetuously put Demon's Souls ahead of Dragon's Age: Origins?

PC is not a platform? :(

Disgrace...XturnalS

1. Scores don't mean squat in determining which game wins which award. 8.4 GOTY to Everquest is proof enough.

2. Group opinion > individual opinion

3. DS is just as deserving of the award as DAO and this isn't the first place DS has won RPGOTY.

Much like how Metacritic + GameRankings > gamespot

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#118 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Call it what you want, but it is something new. There's also the way different players interact such as Black Phantoms, as an easy example. You can downplay it all night. It brought something new.Skittles_McGee

PvP has been around forever....You don't play many RPGs,do you?

I've been playing RPGs for a very long time. The way Black Phantoms actually work, if you bothered to recognize that, is different than PvP we've normally had. Instead of trying to discredit my "knowledge" of RPGs, you could just agree that Demon's Souls does bring some new ideas to the table in some form or another. There are features in the game that either we haven't seen in their current form, or have seen very precious little of.

And that's not the only way those messages work. I was warned by people many times of black phantoms ahead of where I was going, like at (I think) 3-1 while walking up a staircase. There was a phantom and you can't see it until you're very close to it. So these arrows (that took a lot of hp) were coming out of no where. But I knew it was coming because of these messages. And other messages tell you what certain mobs coming up are weak to. Hardly a waste of a feature. Also the way we can invade or summon players is quite awesome along with seeing how others died. All cool features.
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#119 Human-after-all
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[QUOTE="XturnalS"][QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]Since when 9.5 < 9.0


How could Gamespot so impetuously put Demon's Souls ahead of Dragon's Age: Origins?

PC is not a platform? :(

Disgrace...Hexagon_777

1. Scores don't mean squat in determining which game wins which award. 8.4 GOTY to Everquest is proof enough.

2. Group opinion > individual opinion

3. DS is just as deserving of the award as DAO and this isn't the first place DS has won RPGOTY.

Much like how Metacritic + GameRankings > gamespot

Speaking of that 91 > 89.
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#120 Theguy56
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Better than Demon's Souls? With the combat system of DAO?

Nope, I'll take Gamespot's opinion thanks.

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#121 AAllxxjjnn
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Better than Demon's Souls? With the combat system of DAO?

Nope, I'll take Gamespot's opinion thanks.

Theguy56
What's wrong with Dragon Age's combat system?
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#122 NoobisMaxcimus
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Ps3 has higher standards :P

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#123 punkrocker163
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So much damage control, also Demons Souls>>>>>Dragon age anyday of the week.
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#124 Theguy56
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[QUOTE="Theguy56"]

Better than Demon's Souls? With the combat system of DAO?

Nope, I'll take Gamespot's opinion thanks.

AAllxxjjnn
What's wrong with Dragon Age's combat system?

Don't know how it is later in the game but I found the combat to be REALLY slow. I was enjoying the story but the combat made me stop playing. This is probably the reason why the only series that I like from Bioware is the Mass Effect series.
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#125 SparkyProtocol
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ARMA II was also robbed of its title.