Consolization?

Is this a new word people are making up. I keep reading people say such and such is being dumbed down on consoles etc... I read ths about Alan Wake. MAfia II, etc.. I could buy this back in the day(ie when diablo was out on the pc and came to the consoles, same with several other games that were extremely dumbed down). But that isnt the case these days. Console versions of these games are identical nowadays and clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

Is this a new word people are making up. I keep reading people say such and such is being dumbed down on consoles etc... I read ths about Alan Wake. MAfia II, etc.. I could buy this back in the day(ie when diablo was out on the pc and came to the consoles, same with several other games that were extremely dumbed down). But that isnt the case these days. Console versions of these games are identical nowadays and clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

Walker34

I some what agree, the law of diminishing returns is coming and fast... Most console counter part don't look horrible in comparion.. I bet the average consumer could not tell the difference.. Next generation, what will be the point(of a PC besides KB/M). What the fact that the console 10000 by 10000 resolution texture is less than the 12000 by 12000 PC res? Also, even with resolution the differnce between 1080p and something like 2500 by 1600(or what ever it is) is small....

due to downloadable content

Walker34

I can't believe you people actually accepted this trend of "downloadable content". It's just redicilous.

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

Is this a new word people are making up. I keep reading people say such and such is being dumbed down on consoles etc... I read ths about Alan Wake. MAfia II, etc.. I could buy this back in the day(ie when diablo was out on the pc and came to the consoles, same with several other games that were extremely dumbed down). But that isnt the case these days. Console versions of these games are identical nowadays and clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

Threebabycows

I some what agree, the law of diminishing returns is coming and fast... Most console counter part don't look horrible in comparion.. I bet the average consumer could not tell the difference.. Next generation, what will be the point(of a PC besides KB/M). What the fact that the console 10000 by 10000 resolution texture is less than the 12000 by 12000 PC res? Also, even with resolution the differnce between 1080p and something like 2500 by 1600(or what ever it is) is small....

WTF are these two guys talking about? :?..............:|.................:lol:

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

Is this a new word people are making up. I keep reading people say such and such is being dumbed down on consoles etc... I read ths about Alan Wake. MAfia II, etc.. I could buy this back in the day(ie when diablo was out on the pc and came to the consoles, same with several other games that were extremely dumbed down). But that isnt the case these days. Console versions of these games are identical nowadays and clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

glez13

I some what agree, the law of diminishing returns is coming and fast... Most console counter part don't look horrible in comparion.. I bet the average consumer could not tell the difference.. Next generation, what will be the point(of a PC besides KB/M). What the fact that the console 10000 by 10000 resolution texture is less than the 12000 by 12000 PC res? Also, even with resolution the differnce between 1080p and something like 2500 by 1600(or what ever it is) is small....

WTF are these two guys talking about? :?..............:|.................:lol:

I said the average consumer could not tell much of a differnece.. By next-gen diminishing returns will be in pretty much full effect so the additions to the PC version then will cause extremly minial differneces.

While whether or not games are being dumbed down for consoles is easily an arguable point, the word consolization is definantly not a new term. I can tell you I have heard this term thrown around since at least the days of the SNES.

clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

Walker34

Stopped reading there. :|

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Oh wait.. that's the end of the post. Ah well,

Anyway, whatever you want to call it; "consolization", "consolitis", "dumbing down" and "casualization" are few of the words I've seen, but it is very much real.

When making a game for consoles, you have to broaden your audience as much as possible, so that you will make enough money to cover the HUGE development/hype costs. When making a PC game, if you have a small budget you can make it to appeal to certain niche only and still make profit - which is one of the reasons I enjoy PC gaming more.

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[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

I some what agree, the law of diminishing returns is coming and fast... Most console counter part don't look horrible in comparion.. I bet the average consumer could not tell the difference.. Next generation, what will be the point(of a PC besides KB/M). What the fact that the console 10000 by 10000 resolution texture is less than the 12000 by 12000 PC res? Also, even with resolution the differnce between 1080p and something like 2500 by 1600(or what ever it is) is small....

Threebabycows

WTF are these two guys talking about? :?..............:|.................:lol:

I said the average consumer could not tell much of a differnece.. By next-gen diminishing returns will be in pretty much full effect so the additions to the PC version then will cause extremly minial differneces.

So does that mean the average consumer have a average PC?

And really... you have no idea what your talking about... the resolution thing looks way over your head.

You think consolization is something new? It has been around for quite some time, and it has drastically affected a number of different genres; Deus Ex, The Elder Scrolls, Rainbow Six, and many more. Iti s a term being used by the press now as well http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EEZlApppVZFWKMBMrV.php What started out as a joke amongst us hermits in System Wars (just like consolite), is spreading amongst the industry to designate a number of different games which suffer from joint development between consoles and PCs. It is a phenomenon that is happening, just as the Great Casualisation is being caused by the Wii and others. Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

Is this a new word people are making up. I keep reading people say such and such is being dumbed down on consoles etc... I read ths about Alan Wake. MAfia II, etc.. I could buy this back in the day(ie when diablo was out on the pc and came to the consoles, same with several other games that were extremely dumbed down). But that isnt the case these days. Console versions of these games are identical nowadays and clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

Threebabycows

I some what agree, the law of diminishing returns is coming and fast... Most console counter part don't look horrible in comparion.. I bet the average consumer could not tell the difference.. Next generation, what will be the point(of a PC besides KB/M). What the fact that the console 10000 by 10000 resolution texture is less than the 12000 by 12000 PC res? Also, even with resolution the differnce between 1080p and something like 2500 by 1600(or what ever it is) is small....

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

due to downloadable content

IgGy621985

I can't believe you people actually accepted this trend of "downloadable content". It's just redicilous.

]i feel now would be an appropriate time to mention Spore, which you for some reason failed to mention whilst blaming casualisation on every platform except PC.marklarmer

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]]i feel now would be an appropriate time to mention Spore, which you for some reason failed to mention whilst blaming casualisation on every platform except PC.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="marklarmer"]]i feel now would be an appropriate time to mention Spore, which you for some reason failed to mention whilst blaming casualisation on every platform except PC.Vandalvideo

Is this a new word people are making up. I keep reading people say such and such is being dumbed down on consoles etc... I read ths about Alan Wake. MAfia II, etc.. I could buy this back in the day(ie when diablo was out on the pc and came to the consoles, same with several other games that were extremely dumbed down). But that isnt the case these days. Console versions of these games are identical nowadays and clearly superior in a lot of cases due to downloadable content etc....

Walker34

PC Gamers are just jealous because they have such a difficult time trying to play anything these days, what with their DRM and compatiability issues. Of course they can have SLIGHTLY better graphics at the expense of that, but it's hardly worth it.

PC Gaming damaged itself, and now they can't accept that because of their elitist attitudes, so they blame it on something else.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Threebabycows"]

I some what agree, the law of diminishing returns is coming and fast... Most console counter part don't look horrible in comparion.. I bet the average consumer could not tell the difference.. Next generation, what will be the point(of a PC besides KB/M). What the fact that the console 10000 by 10000 resolution texture is less than the 12000 by 12000 PC res? Also, even with resolution the differnce between 1080p and something like 2500 by 1600(or what ever it is) is small....

Threebabycows

WTF are these two guys talking about? :?..............:|.................:lol:

I said the average consumer could not tell much of a differnece.. By next-gen diminishing returns will be in pretty much full effect so the additions to the PC version then will cause extremly minial differneces.

PC Gamers are just jealous because they have such a difficult time trying to play anything these days, what with their DRM and compatiability issues. Of course they can have SLIGHTLY better graphics at the expense of that, but it's hardly worth it.

PC Gaming damaged itself, and now they can't accept that because of their elitist attitudes, so they blame it on something else.

Rob-Belmont

*walks away from thread because ribs hurt from laughing so hard and don't want to pass out*

[QUOTE="Walker34"]

due to downloadable content

IgGy621985

I can't believe you people actually accepted this trend of "downloadable content". It's just redicilous.

Especially when PC gets this AND mods for free.

[QUOTE="Rob-Belmont"]

PC Gamers are just jealous because they have such a difficult time trying to play anything these days, what with their DRM and compatiability issues. Of course they can have SLIGHTLY better graphics at the expense of that, but it's hardly worth it.

PC Gaming damaged itself, and now they can't accept that because of their elitist attitudes, so they blame it on something else.

TheGreatOutdoor

*walks away from thread because ribs hurt from laughing so hard and don't want to pass out*

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="Rob-Belmont"]

PC Gamers are just jealous because they have such a difficult time trying to play anything these days, what with their DRM and compatiability issues. Of course they can have SLIGHTLY better graphics at the expense of that, but it's hardly worth it.

PC Gaming damaged itself, and now they can't accept that because of their elitist attitudes, so they blame it on something else.

Rob-Belmont

*walks away from thread because ribs hurt from laughing so hard and don't want to pass out*

It also explains how consoles are becoming more and more like miniature PC's doesn't it?

I love how, when games are simplified to reflect the realities of the wider audience required to cover the development costs of AAA games, it's the consolites' fault. But when it comes time to include all the casual gamers on PC in their numbers, suddenly those individuals are blameless.

Funny, that.

PC Gamers are just jealous because they have such a difficult time trying to play anything these days, what with their DRM and compatiability issues. Of course they can have SLIGHTLY better graphics at the expense of that, but it's hardly worth it.

PC Gaming damaged itself, and now they can't accept that because of their elitist attitudes, so they blame it on something else.

Rob-Belmont

DRM and compatibility... It's hardly a probleme. Oh yeah, PS3 has a great BC play... right.

Oh yeah, PS3 has a great BC play... right.Bebi_vegeta

I REALLY hate that term.

It's the DEVELOPER'S fault, not the consoles.