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#1 reach3
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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.
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I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

Your a moron.

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#3 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.tenaka2

Your a moron.

\ Your mature. My argument actually has a point.
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.tenaka2

Your a moron.

You're*
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#5 edidili
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Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. reach3

Yeah because soldiers go around shooting stuff with a 360 controller. Is not natural to turn around like a tank.

That's just your opinion. You got used to controllers and probably don't play much with a mouse.

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#6 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"]Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. edidili

Yeah because soldiers go around shooting stuff with a 360 controller. Is not natural to turn around like a tank.

That's just your opinion. You got used to controllers and probably don't play much with a mouse.

Clicking a button vs pulling a trigger Which would be the better feeling and more natural way to shoot a gun in a videogame? Obviously clicking a button....
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#7 edidili
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="reach3"]Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. reach3

Yeah because soldiers go around shooting stuff with a 360 controller. Is not natural to turn around like a tank.

That's just your opinion. You got used to controllers and probably don't play much with a mouse.

Clicking a button vs pulling a trigger Which would be the better feeling and more natural way to shoot a gun in a videogame? Obviously clicking a button....

When I jump in games I don't want to do it like I do it in real life. I just click a button and I'm fine with that. The turning around on the other hand with controllers is just irritating.

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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

Thread title was debunked with your first sentence.

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#9 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="edidili"]

Yeah because soldiers go around shooting stuff with a 360 controller. Is not natural to turn around like a tank.

That's just your opinion. You got used to controllers and probably don't play much with a mouse.

edidili

Clicking a button vs pulling a trigger Which would be the better feeling and more natural way to shoot a gun in a videogame? Obviously clicking a button....

When I jump in games I don't want to do it like I do it in real life. I just click a button and I'm fine with that. The turning around on the other hand is just irritating.

Good for you. You don't care about how natural it feels to play games. I will take better feeling gameplay over something that feels awkward yet give me more chance to kill someone
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#10 reach3
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.mazdero

Thread title was debunked with your first sentence.

Not really. More control, yet awkward and unnatural gameplay in accordance to whats happening in the videogame.
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#11 edidili
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Good for you. You don't care about how natural it feels to play games.reach3

Again it not feels natural to move and turn like a tank. It's all about how your character response feels when you controll it, not about the shape of the buttons.

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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

There's strengths to each method.

Like you say, the mouse is faster and much more accurate for aiming but the analogue stick feels better for movement and triggers feel more like those on a real gun.

If you want the best of both the Wiimote and Nunchuck combination is actually the best solution imo; analogue movement, triggers, and really fast and accurate aiming that actually feels more like pointing a real gun than any of the other methods.

I think a lot of people vastly underrate the Wii control solution.

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Controlling another non-sentient being in a sheet of glass powered by essentially, lightning, feels natural to you?
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.SaltyMeatballs

Your a moron.

You're*

:lol:+1

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I will have to agree. Console gaming is better for me.

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[QUOTE="reach3"]Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. edidili

Yeah because soldiers go around shooting stuff with a 360 controller. Is not natural to turn around like a tank.

That's just your opinion. You got used to controllers and probably don't play much with a mouse.

however it is not natural to turn around like a cat on steroids and instasniping everyone withpout breaking a sweat.
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#17 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

Your a moron.

\ Your mature. My argument actually has a point.

And the point is? You have your own preference? We all do. You have proven nothing. For the record I also prefer controllers, but this thread wasnt needed
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#18 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="reach3"]Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. edidili

Yeah because soldiers go around shooting stuff with a 360 controller. Is not natural to turn around like a tank.

That's just your opinion. You got used to controllers and probably don't play much with a mouse.

No we use assault rifles, but they have triggers not clickers, like the 360 controller.
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no, just no.

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#20 Malta_1980
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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

K+M is much more accurate and better for shooters... I have all systems and while I dont mind shooters on consoles, I'd rather play those on PC unless they're exclusives on PS3/360..

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#21 jun_aka_pekto
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I don't mind using my 360 controller on the odd FPS game so long as it's singleplayer like Bioshock. I actually enjoyed using the controller on that game. That's it though. I use the controller mainly for TPS (eg Tomb Raider: Legend) and sports games.

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#22 JohnF111
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Oh and i agree a little, keyboards are terrible for gaming, yeah so you got loads of buttons and apps for macroing but it's essentially a slab of clunky plastic designed with a ruler.
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#23 Serioussamik
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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

Get a cup of coffee,sir! :P

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you can like whatever you want, but youll never change anybody's mind.

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#25 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.

Ok , now come 1vs1 with me to any FPS game and ill make you reconsider what you just said.
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#26 reach3
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.

Ok , now come 1vs1 with me to any FPS game and ill make you reconsider what you just said.

Its obvious you cant read or you wouldn't have said that
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.

Ok , now come 1vs1 with me to any FPS game and ill make you reconsider what you just said.

Its obvious you cant read or you wouldn't have said that

To some the experience is dependant on competition. For enjoyment I also prefer a controller.
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#28 JollyGreenOne
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.amaneuvering

There's strengths to each method.

Like you say, the mouse is faster and much more accurate for aiming but the analogue stick feels better for movement and triggers feel more like those on a real gun.

If you want the best of both the Wiimote and Nunchuck combination is actually the best solution imo; analogue movement, triggers, and really fast and accurate aiming that actually feels more like pointing a real gun than any of the other methods.

I think a lot of people vastly underrate the Wii control solution.

I agree. The Wiimote and Nunchuck combo is good, but with Motion+ they're even better, since it allows for accurate off-screen aiming and turning. Here's a great example from Red Steel 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ri5l5hLSc

It's sad that Motion+ got so little support, even from Nintendo themselves.

On Topic: I have to admit that I like controllers more than Keyboard and Mouse, but from what I've seen both have their ups and downs.

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#29 MLBknights58
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I see where you're coming from. I'll take playing on PC anyday if I'm really feeling my game, because I demand precision and the most efficient method of control possible.

But I also like kicking back on my couch crusiing through a map on BF3, with my 360 controller. It certainly does feel better. Your thread title is sure making people rowdy lol. But I see where you're coming from, sometimes a controller is more comfortable and easier to control with thana KB/M.

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#30 simomate
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.tenaka2

Your a moron.

I actually agree with his opinion. You can't just blindly say that, he's got a point. Both controls have its pros and cons.
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3
Ok , now come 1vs1 with me to any FPS game and ill make you reconsider what you just said.

Its obvious you cant read or you wouldn't have said that

Ill say it again. When youll play 1vs1 with a PC gamer and utterly destroys you , youll reconsider play the "natural" way. Simply because you wont have fun by getting killed instantly all the time. Then youll go K+M yourself to keep up , beleive me you will. But that wont happen so have fun with your controller.

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#32 balfe1990
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So basically Controller>Keyboard

but

Mouse>Controller?

Can't say I disagree.

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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="reach3"] Clicking a button vs pulling a trigger Which would be the better feeling and more natural way to shoot a gun in a videogame? Obviously clicking a button....reach3

When I jump in games I don't want to do it like I do it in real life. I just click a button and I'm fine with that. The turning around on the other hand is just irritating.

Good for you. You don't care about how natural it feels to play games. I will take better feeling gameplay over something that feels awkward yet give me more chance to kill someone

So it's natural to turn slow as hell and be inaccurate even with years of training? Boy, I would have thought it was the other way around.
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#34 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="edidili"]

When I jump in games I don't want to do it like I do it in real life. I just click a button and I'm fine with that. The turning around on the other hand is just irritating.

DragonfireXZ95

Good for you. You don't care about how natural it feels to play games. I will take better feeling gameplay over something that feels awkward yet give me more chance to kill someone

So it's natural to turn slow as hell and be inaccurate even with years of training? Boy, I would have thought it was the other way around.

And all this for a trigger....

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nothing like auto aiming on consoles, to help you properly line up a shot. console first person shooter controls are like babysitters for the player..smh
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typewritter sucks in gaming
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#37 milannoir
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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

So your argument is "KB/M is better but I personnally prefer the controller therefore Controller > Keyboard + Mouse for FPS"...

Wow...

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#38 Ondoval
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If you want control and accuracy better go for the keyboard and mouse.

If you want simulation and "feeling" better prepare a couple of millions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Bh5iI2WY

Personally I would take k+m to gaming and would spent the money in a Aston Martin.

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#39 GiantAssPanda
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The triggers in the 360 controller are a nice addition but I would never play a FPS with a controller if I have the option to play them with mouse & kb. The accuracy is just in a whole different level compared to a controller.

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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse in MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. I fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.tenaka2

Your a moron.

^ I really hate the new rules. Why even post? It's not like you're being funny.

Anyways, to TC: I actually agree that a controller has some benifits over k/m, even for FPSs. I think it's too quickly shrugged off as an inferiror playing method. With that said, I still prefer k/m.

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#41 skrat_01
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Which has always been factually incorrect. And tank controls with turning ratios are not natural in the slightest.
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#42 BPoole96
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Your personal preference holds zero weight

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CS:GO should end this when it is released :)

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#44 menes777
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I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

Translation: I known KB/M are much better, but since I don't have a PC I am going to make up a lame excuse why using a controller is better.

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#45 lowe0
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[QUOTE="reach3"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] Ok , now come 1vs1 with me to any FPS game and ill make you reconsider what you just said.AzatiS

Its obvious you cant read or you wouldn't have said that

Ill say it again. When youll play 1vs1 with a PC gamer and utterly destroys you , youll reconsider play the "natural" way. Simply because you wont have fun by getting killed instantly all the time. Then youll go K+M yourself to keep up , beleive me you will. But that wont happen so have fun with your controller.

So if (by your own admission) it wouldn't be fun, then why would we want to play you in the first place?
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#46 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.

all signs lead to you believing kbm is better ...
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#47 Diviniuz
Member since 2009 • 6460 Posts
[QUOTE="mazdero"]

[QUOTE="reach3"]I will admit, keyboard and mouse is MUCH more accurate, but I just don't like it. It fells lame clicking a mouse to fire a gun. and walking holding down a button is weak also. It just feels unnatural to me. Pulling a trigger on a controller feels much better and is actually natural for shooting a gun. Walking also feels better for a thumbstick and controlling momentum. While keyboard and mouse is undoubtedly superior in a precision-sense...a controller feels much more natural and just feels plain better for games to me.reach3

Thread title was debunked with your first sentence.

Not really. More control, yet awkward and unnatural gameplay in accordance to whats happening in the videogame.

I lol'ed
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#48 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Which has always been factually incorrect. And tank controls with turning ratios are not natural in the slightest.

^This. Try playing Quake on a controller and see how far you get. I'm also inclined to believe that anyone who prefers controllers to KB/M because "pulling a trigger is more like firing a real gun" has never actually fired a gun in their life.
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#49 wraigth
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PS navigation controller + Mouse > KB + Mouse >>>>>>>>>>> Controller

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#50 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]Which has always been factually incorrect. And tank controls with turning ratios are not natural in the slightest.

^This. Try playing Quake on a controller and see how far you get. I'm also inclined to believe that anyone who prefers controllers to KB/M because "pulling a trigger is more like firing a real gun" has never actually fired a gun in their life.

If TC ever fired a rifle in real life he'd probably sprain his wrist. Or swell up from the kick.