Could Epic jump completely on board with sony and PS3?

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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]it's no secret that epic and MS aren't getting along that well now. epic doesn't like game for windows live and i'm pretty sure MS doesn't like them for optimizing Unreal engine for PS3. considering that epic is now discussing to make PC and PS3 crossplatform online. do you see epic breaking off from MS for good? MorisUkunRasik

LOL, how would gears of war run on xbox360 if it wasnt optimized at all for 360?

do you know what optimized means?

optimize get the most out of the hardware you are working with?

so you understand something doesn't necessarily have to be optimized to work right?

yes.

xbox360 could of ran gears of war better.

it's just the dev team at epicgames are noob's to unified architecture and ati pretty much, they are nvidia paid fanwhores, sponsored by nvidia.

But i bet you anything 360 still runs unreal tournament 3 better than ps3 and has better textures.

not necessarily, the UE is a multiplat engine, and since sony has work with epic on optimizing it for the ps3 its very possible that the ps3 version may run better and look better than the 08 version for the 360



this is probably a more accurate representation, though the difference will be very minor.

not possible for unreal tournament 3 on ps3 than xbox360 if dev takes advantage of both consoles.

xbox360 10 mb edram + 512 mb unified between gpu/cpu

ps3 256 mb dedicated for cpu 256 mb dedicated for gpu.

the ps3 is built much different than the 360, so different that conventional specs can't be measured side by side.Probably the biggest reason that sony worked with epic to touch up the unreal engine



ya....apples and oranges.
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[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="InfinityTomorro"]It's too early to tell but that would be pretty funny. Could you imagine Gears of War 2 a PS3 exclusive?jg4xchamp

MS has legal rights to the Gears IP for atleast 2 more games. So until Gears 3 is over with. THere will be no Gears 2 on PS3. simply put if epic left MS they would have to make a new ip for Sony. IE irrational games making bioshock instead of system shock 3.

Link to MS owning GearS IP?



this is from like 2 and a half years ago, but it was all over the forums. that statement si incorrect anyway, Microsoft has a Cantract to the exclusivity of of the Gears of War trilogy, for 2 of the games. because MS bought the Publishing rights, theres no denying this its been known on SW for years.

exactly thats what i meant. Until the Gears trilogy is done there is no Gears 2 on PS3. I never said MS owns it. I said MS has legit rights to the IP. Why because as the publsihers and the contract they made they have legit rights that Epic cant breach.

Is publishing a game = owning the rights to the possible sequels? Again Link or cry

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="InfinityTomorro"]It's too early to tell but that would be pretty funny. Could you imagine Gears of War 2 a PS3 exclusive?-Reggaeton-

MS has legal rights to the Gears IP for atleast 2 more games. So until Gears 3 is over with. THere will be no Gears 2 on PS3. simply put if epic left MS they would have to make a new ip for Sony. IE irrational games making bioshock instead of system shock 3.

Link to MS owning GearS IP?



this is from like 2 and a half years ago, but it was all over the forums. that statement si incorrect anyway, Microsoft has a Cantract to the exclusivity of of the Gears of War trilogy, for 2 of the games. because MS bought the Publishing rights, theres no denying this its been known on SW for years.

exactly thats what i meant. Until the Gears trilogy is done there is no Gears 2 on PS3. I never said MS owns it. I said MS has legit rights to the IP. Why because as the publsihers and the contract they made they have legit rights that Epic cant breach.

Is publishing a game = owning the rights to the possible sequels? Again Link or cry

Microsoft owns the IP for GeOW 2. Fact. Get over it and stop crying for a link.

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#54 krp008
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i dont even think Sony is able technically to make their PSN cross-platform with the PC online.... Its not something you just build overnight, and honestly PSN isnt that great of a service
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[QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]it's no secret that epic and MS aren't getting along that well now. epic doesn't like game for windows live and i'm pretty sure MS doesn't like them for optimizing Unreal engine for PS3. considering that epic is now discussing to make PC and PS3 crossplatform online. do you see epic breaking off from MS for good? MorisUkunRasik

LOL, how would gears of war run on xbox360 if it wasnt optimized at all for 360?

do you know what optimized means?

optimize get the most out of the hardware you are working with?

so you understand something doesn't necessarily have to be optimized to work right?

yes.

xbox360 could of ran gears of war better.

it's just the dev team at epicgames are noob's to unified architecture and ati pretty much, they are nvidia paid fanwhores, sponsored by nvidia.

But i bet you anything 360 still runs unreal tournament 3 better than ps3 and has better textures.

not necessarily, the UE is a multiplat engine, and since sony has work with epic on optimizing it for the ps3 its very possible that the ps3 version may run better and look better than the 08 version for the 360



this is probably a more accurate representation, though the difference will be very minor.

not possible for unreal tournament 3 on ps3 than xbox360 if dev takes advantage of both consoles.

xbox360 10 mb edram + 512 mb unified between gpu/cpu

ps3 256 mb dedicated for cpu 256 mb dedicated for gpu.

the ps3 is built much different than the 360, so different that conventional specs can't be measured side by side.Probably the biggest reason that sony worked with epic to touch up the unreal engine

ram/memory capacity=almost most special part of a console.

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#56 MorisUkunRasik
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most special?
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#57 ps3rulezzggdff
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[QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]it's no secret that epic and MS aren't getting along that well now. epic doesn't like game for windows live and i'm pretty sure MS doesn't like them for optimizing Unreal engine for PS3. considering that epic is now discussing to make PC and PS3 crossplatform online. do you see epic breaking off from MS for good? Rob2223

LOL, how would gears of war run on xbox360 if it wasnt optimized at all for 360?

do you know what optimized means?

optimize get the most out of the hardware you are working with?

so you understand something doesn't necessarily have to be optimized to work right?

yes.

xbox360 could of ran gears of war better.

it's just the dev team at epicgames are noob's to unified architecture and ati pretty much, they are nvidia paid fanwhores, sponsored by nvidia.

But i bet you anything 360 still runs unreal tournament 3 better than ps3 and has better textures.

not necessarily, the UE is a multiplat engine, and since sony has work with epic on optimizing it for the ps3 its very possible that the ps3 version may run better and look better than the 08 version for the 360



this is probably a more accurate representation, though the difference will be very minor.

not possible for unreal tournament 3 on ps3 than xbox360 if dev takes advantage of both consoles.

xbox360 10 mb edram + 512 mb unified between gpu/cpu

ps3 256 mb dedicated for cpu 256 mb dedicated for gpu.

the ps3 is built much different than the 360, so different that conventional specs can't be measured side by side.Probably the biggest reason that sony worked with epic to touch up the unreal engine



ya....apples and oranges.

Sorry ps3 cannot do anything graphically better than xbox360 it has less system memory for developers to use to load textures/store because of os size and system design, plus no edram, plus it's system has less polygon output 500 million on 360 250 on ps3.

the only thing ps3 could do better is animations/physics, but i think xbox360 gpu+cpu both working programmed for handling physicss it'd probley beat ps3, since ps3 gpu cannot be used for physics processing.

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#58 ps3rulezzggdff
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most special?MorisUkunRasik

cpu=brain video card=eyes lol

memory? store data information less memory=bad ps3 has less.

xbox360 has long term memory ps3 has short term lol @ dumb logic

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#59 MorisUkunRasik
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[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"][QUOTE="MorisUkunRasik"][QUOTE="ps3rulezzggdff"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]it's no secret that epic and MS aren't getting along that well now. epic doesn't like game for windows live and i'm pretty sure MS doesn't like them for optimizing Unreal engine for PS3. considering that epic is now discussing to make PC and PS3 crossplatform online. do you see epic breaking off from MS for good? ps3rulezzggdff

LOL, how would gears of war run on xbox360 if it wasnt optimized at all for 360?

do you know what optimized means?

optimize get the most out of the hardware you are working with?

so you understand something doesn't necessarily have to be optimized to work right?

yes.

xbox360 could of ran gears of war better.

it's just the dev team at epicgames are noob's to unified architecture and ati pretty much, they are nvidia paid fanwhores, sponsored by nvidia.

But i bet you anything 360 still runs unreal tournament 3 better than ps3 and has better textures.

not necessarily, the UE is a multiplat engine, and since sony has work with epic on optimizing it for the ps3 its very possible that the ps3 version may run better and look better than the 08 version for the 360



this is probably a more accurate representation, though the difference will be very minor.

not possible for unreal tournament 3 on ps3 than xbox360 if dev takes advantage of both consoles.

xbox360 10 mb edram + 512 mb unified between gpu/cpu

ps3 256 mb dedicated for cpu 256 mb dedicated for gpu.

the ps3 is built much different than the 360, so different that conventional specs can't be measured side by side.Probably the biggest reason that sony worked with epic to touch up the unreal engine



ya....apples and oranges.

Sorry ps3 cannot do anything graphically better than xbox360 it has less system memory for developers to use to load textures/store because of os size and system design, plus no edram, plus it's system has less polygon output 500 million on 360 250 on ps3.

the only thing ps3 could do better is animations/physics, but i think xbox360 gpu+cpu both working programmed for handling ps3's it'd probley beat ps3, since ps3 gpu cannot be used for physics processing.

if the ps3 was conventionally made those would all be valid points but the ps3 is a different kind of beast

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#60 ps3rulezzggdff
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]it's no secret that epic and MS aren't getting along that well now. epic doesn't like game for windows live and i'm pretty sure MS doesn't like them for optimizing Unreal engine for PS3. considering that epic is now discussing to make PC and PS3 crossplatform online. do you see epic breaking off from MS for good? MorisUkunRasik

LOL, how would gears of war run on xbox360 if it wasnt optimized at all for 360?

do you know what optimized means?

optimize get the most out of the hardware you are working with?

so you understand something doesn't necessarily have to be optimized to work right?

yes.

xbox360 could of ran gears of war better.

it's just the dev team at epicgames are noob's to unified architecture and ati pretty much, they are nvidia paid fanwhores, sponsored by nvidia.

But i bet you anything 360 still runs unreal tournament 3 better than ps3 and has better textures.

not necessarily, the UE is a multiplat engine, and since sony has work with epic on optimizing it for the ps3 its very possible that the ps3 version may run better and look better than the 08 version for the 360



this is probably a more accurate representation, though the difference will be very minor.

not possible for unreal tournament 3 on ps3 than xbox360 if dev takes advantage of both consoles.

xbox360 10 mb edram + 512 mb unified between gpu/cpu

ps3 256 mb dedicated for cpu 256 mb dedicated for gpu.

the ps3 is built much different than the 360, so different that conventional specs can't be measured side by side.Probably the biggest reason that sony worked with epic to touch up the unreal engine



ya....apples and oranges.

Sorry ps3 cannot do anything graphically better than xbox360 it has less system memory for developers to use to load textures/store because of os size and system design, plus no edram, plus it's system has less polygon output 500 million on 360 250 on ps3.

the only thing ps3 could do better is animations/physics, but i think xbox360 gpu+cpu both working programmed for handling ps3's it'd probley beat ps3, since ps3 gpu cannot be used for physics processing.

if the ps3 was conventionally made those would all be valid points but the ps3 is a different kind of beast

ps3's system design is more like a pc.

dedicated system memory and dedicated video memory

xbox360 is less like pc in memory architecture set up, unified memory between cpu/gpu use any amount from 512 mb basically.

the pc set up cant cpu cant access the video cards video memory for main memory .

xbox360 512 mb usable by cpu or gpu .

ps3 only 256 mb dedicated for cpu and 256 mb for gpu.

the gpu can access some of the ps3's cpu xdr main memory to store textures but it cant fully access all of it plus it's takes hit on system performance, on the other hand ps3's cpu main memory is limited to 256 mb, while xbox360 main memory could be 512 mb. thereoetically spelling?.

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#61 herozs
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I think Epic will give alot more attention to the PS3.
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#62 krp008
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When the PS3 version of UT3 doesnt sell half of what the 360 version will sell, Epic will change their ways again. I mean, you cant just completely forget that you made a multi-million exclusive seller for the 360 now
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#63 SegArgyle
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I wish you people would wear your freakin' quote button out already, quit quoting ten thousand quots

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#64 Primevil702
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When the PS3 version of UT3 doesnt sell half of what the 360 version will sell, Epic will change their ways again. I mean, you cant just completely forget that you made a multi-million exclusive seller for the 360 nowkrp008

If they advertise it right it'll sell great on PS3 - It will be IMO the best multiplayer game to grace the PS3 this year, with Warhawk probably close by its side. If they advertise this game on PS3, it will sell - I'm willing to bet on it. It just has far too much appeal.

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#65 dracolich666
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Wow more pathetic cow threads. Epic will never do so, unless sony sold ALOT more consoles, and/or paid them ALOT. MS can always outbid them.
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#66 Danm_999
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Epic are a PC developer first and foremost. Their recent actions do not indicate a move away from Microsoft and towards Sony as the TC suggests, but merely a reminding that they consider the PC their base.