Could Gears of War 2 score a perfect 10?

Could or Will are two DIFFERENT questions @ OP

the answer to Could Gears of War 2 Score a Perfect 10 is obviously YES- the game Could well score that high.

my answer to Will Gears of War 2 Score a Perfect 10 is NO. Im going by mathematical probability & since we've already had two 10s this year (that i can think of GTA4 & MGS4- if there any others feel free to tell me) then I will have to say that the odds are against GeoW2. though I believe it will score highly.

Well, looking at the 2 recent games that scored 10's, im saying any game could now get a 10.

Gears 2 will be better then both GTA and MGS4, but i doubt it will get a 10 simply cause GS suck at reviewing games.

[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]No. Simply, no. The first one got a 9.6 because it was amazing for it's time, gears 2 doesn't look innovative enough to get a 10 this time around. It'll get a 9 - 9.5 thoughChrnoTrigger

Whats so innovative about mgs4??

A ton of things. Play the game for yourself and find out.

Nothing was innovative in MGS4, it was a good game. And I've beaten MGS 1,2,3 and the original metal gear on snes.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]No. Simply, no. The first one got a 9.6 because it was amazing for it's time, gears 2 doesn't look innovative enough to get a 10 this time around. It'll get a 9 - 9.5 thoughDynafrom

Whats so innovative about mgs4??

A ton of things. Play the game for yourself and find out.

Nothing was innovative in MGS4, it was a good game. And I've beaten MGS 1,2,3 and the original metal gear on snes.

It had innovative installations.

I am suprised it didnt get subtracted points for that, but hey....

[QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]No. Simply, no. The first one got a 9.6 because it was amazing for it's time, gears 2 doesn't look innovative enough to get a 10 this time around. It'll get a 9 - 9.5 thoughukillwegrill

Whats so innovative about mgs4??

A ton of things. Play the game for yourself and find out.

Nothing was innovative in MGS4, it was a good game. And I've beaten MGS 1,2,3 and the original metal gear on snes.

It had innovative installations.

I am suprised it didnt get subtracted points for that, but hey....

Technical limitations can be mentioned e.g the PS3's Blu-Ray drive isn't fast enough to allow streaming off the disc and thus requires installs for some games. However, if the developer is not at fault but rather the hardware it's on, points can't be taken down. In this case, it was the PS3's fault, not Kojima Productions. If the visuals were terrible, levels were small, etc, then it would be unreasonable to have installs as it is known that more can be pushed out without requireing installs and would require a point deduction.

This can also be applied to graphics among other things to a certain extent e.g Crysis on max won't be expected out of any console but things like texture pop-in won't be tolerated unless it's rare.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="Dynafrom"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]No. Simply, no. The first one got a 9.6 because it was amazing for it's time, gears 2 doesn't look innovative enough to get a 10 this time around. It'll get a 9 - 9.5 thoughTechnoweirdo

Whats so innovative about mgs4??

A ton of things. Play the game for yourself and find out.

Nothing was innovative in MGS4, it was a good game. And I've beaten MGS 1,2,3 and the original metal gear on snes.

It had innovative installations.

I am suprised it didnt get subtracted points for that, but hey....

Technical limitations can be mentioned e.g the PS3's Blu-Ray drive isn't fast enough to allow streaming off the disc and thus requires installs for some games. However, if the developer is not at fault but rather the hardware it's on, points can't be taken down. In this case, it was the PS3's fault, not Kojima Productions. If the visuals were terrible, levels were small, etc, then it would be unreasonable to have installs as it is known that more can be pushed out without requireing installs and would require a point deduction.

This can also be applied to graphics among other things to a certain extent e.g Crysis on max won't be expected out of any console but things like texture pop-in won't be tolerated unless it's rare.

Lmao, that's not the point.

When LO was being reviewd for the first time, all they mentioned was how the xbox couldnt handle it, same with Mass Effect.

Lmao, that's not the point.

When LO was being reviewd for the first time, all they mentioned was how the xbox couldnt handle it, same with Mass Effect.

ukillwegrill

In the case of Mass Effect, the amount of texture pop-in was just ridiculous and the long not-so-well-disguised-if-your-disc-drive-is-noisy load times pretty much demanded a point loss for reasons I stated eariler: Better has been seen from the hardware without these problems. Gears of War had excellent visuals and used the same engine if I recall yet didn't have ridiculous load times and texture pop-in was pretty hard to notice (Well for me at least).

Not sure about Lost Odyssey.

No. Simply, no. The first one got a 9.6 because it was amazing for it's time, gears 2 doesn't look innovative enough to get a 10 this time around. It'll get a 9 - 9.5 thoughChrnoTrigger

More innovative than GTA4 which was a stripped down rehash of GTA3 with broken and boring online multiplayer. Or the great movie that is MGS4, with like 6 hours of gameplay and 9 hours of movie clips... by these standards, gears 2 should get a 12.

[QUOTE="ukillwegrill"]

Lmao, that's not the point.

When LO was being reviewd for the first time, all they mentioned was how the xbox couldnt handle it, same with Mass Effect.

Technoweirdo

In the case of Mass Effect, the amount of texture pop-in was just ridiculous and the long not-so-well-disguised-if-your-disc-drive-is-noisy load times pretty much demanded a point loss for reasons I stated eariler: Better has been seen from the hardware without these problems. Gears of War had excellent visuals and used the same engine if I recall yet didn't have ridiculous load times and texture pop-in was pretty hard to notice (Well for me at least).

Not sure about Lost Odyssey.

The pop up on Mass effect didnt occur to many people, just like with LO they may ahve revied a pre release version.

I will admit to it dropping in frame but it only happene donce to me (it was HUGE though)

Plus, Mass effect looks much better then MGS4.

IMO I think it's very possible. The first one received a 9.6 which is equivalent to a 10. This game looks like a masterpiece.

DISCUSS =).

Oh, and if you choose the second option; discuss the game and why.

bano123

10? Possible. who knows...

Gears 2 will probably get robbed from getting a 10 here and received a 9.5 instead.

Plus, Mass effect looks much better then MGS4.

ukillwegrill

...not according to gamespot and pretty much every other critic out there.

IMO I think it's very possible. The first one received a 9.6 which is equivalent to a 10. This game looks like a masterpiece.

DISCUSS =).

Oh, and if you choose the second option; discuss the game and why.

bano123

I'm sure it will be an amazing game..but a 10?! I doubt it...very few games can score a perfect 10!!!! In my opinion it will get a 9.6

if the multiplayer hasnt improved from the first it wont get a 10, unless epic make it an add-on so it doesnt effect the games score like some people i wont mention.

Oh yeah and the characters aren't likable enough...and the script from the first was kinda cheesy...and its not a long enough running franchise to warrant being slapped a 10 based mostly on its name. So no basically.

marklarmer

Wow. They are bringing in a different writer (if I'm not mistaken) because they realize the story was greatly lacking in the first game. They (or at least CliffyB) has admitted to the multiplayer faults and stated that they have worked at fixing them. They have even added at least one more multiplayer mode, quite possibly more.

Add to that more enemies, more weapons, and a more diverse color palette, and you have one amazing game IMO.

[QUOTE="bano123"]

IMO I think it's very possible. The first one received a 9.6 which is equivalent to a 10. This game looks like a masterpiece.

DISCUSS =).

Oh, and if you choose the second option; discuss the game and why.

michelle341

I'm sure it will be an amazing game..but a 10?! I doubt it...very few games can score a perfect 10!!!! In my opinion it will get a 9.6

Gears of War 2 is incapable of attaining that score.

Any sequel to a high rated game can get a 10 if it improves. Its not just opinion, thats Gamespot fact.

[QUOTE="tupapi006"]

i don`t think any game can score a perfect 10 its just stupid ...

NO game is perfect but you know here on gamespot Yes it can

CaseyWegner

10 doesn't mean it's perfect. it means it's as close to perfect as a game can get.

Which makes GTA4 a puzzling case. Anyways, if they improve on Gears1 it will be a 10. After GTA3 and the rivals started popping up, I feel like each GTA game has been less and less impressive and revolutionary when compared to its competition. Every game implements the things that GTA3 introduced. Its old hat now, nothing impressive about sand box gameplay. However, technically GTA4 did add new features so technically its score MUST go up compared to the others.

According to GS, GTA4 is a better game than the entire PS2, N64, XBox, Gamecube, Dreamcast and PS1 libraries with the exception of Tony Hawk 3 (PS2), Chrono Cross (PS1), Soul Caliber (DC) and Ocarina of Time (N64). Hell, there is no xbox or gamecube game thats anywhere near as good as GTA4. When you sum up GTA4, it trumps everything on PS2 except Tony Hawk 3? Chrono Cross is the only PS1 game thats as good as GTA4? Thats a ludicrous statement. I don't think anyone who works for or posts at Gamespot would honestly stand up and say something as ridiculous as that... which goes to show how ridiculous their game ratings have become.

it might ...but don't count on it.

only boring games get AAAA.

Any sequel to a high rated game can get a 10 if it improves. Its not just opinion, thats Gamespot fact.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="tupapi006"]

i don`t think any game can score a perfect 10 its just stupid ...

NO game is perfect but you know here on gamespot Yes it can

Senor_Kami

10 doesn't mean it's perfect. it means it's as close to perfect as a game can get.

Which makes GTA4 a puzzling case. Anyways, if they improve on Gears1 it will be a 10. After GTA3 and the rivals started popping up, I feel like each GTA game has been less and less impressive and revolutionary when compared to its competition. Every game implements the things that GTA3 introduced. Its old hat now, nothing impressive about sand box gameplay. However, technically GTA4 did add new features so technically its score MUST go up compared to the others.

According to GS, GTA4 is a better game than the entire PS2, N64, XBox, Gamecube, Dreamcast and PS1 libraries with the exception of Tony Hawk 3 (PS2), Chrono Cross (PS1), Soul Caliber (DC) and Ocarina of Time (N64). Hell, there is no xbox or gamecube game thats anywhere near as good as GTA4. When you sum up GTA4, it trumps everything on PS2 except Tony Hawk 3? Chrono Cross is the only PS1 game thats as good as GTA4? Thats a ludicrous statement. I don't think anyone who works for or posts at Gamespot would honestly stand up and say something as ridiculous as that... which goes to show how ridiculous their game ratings have become.

god i wish people would stop trying to compare games of different genres, games aren't reviewed like that.

It seems Gears 2 hit every nail that could be seen except the story. I was just thinking, if the story was epic and emotional(Or at least some substance of emotion) I would expect a 10. But they haven't went in deep concept of the story really, except the talk about dom and his wife, and carmack returning, but I don't know. If the story is either epic or has any emotion that'll move the player somehow then I could see it happening.

But right now, I think a 9.5 is a good for the game.

I think this is something we are going to have to wait and see how it turns out. I mean sure the first one was amazing and I still find it to be one of my favorite games of this generation. The second one sounds and looks amazing, but I don't know if it is going to be enough to get a 10. I mean to get the same score it got the first time around which it would probably be a 9.5 with the new scoring system, that would be fantastic in my view.

I think that if they add a lot more to the experience like the story, fix the glitches in muliplayer and add all the things they are saying they are going to add I think there is a possibility that this game could score a 10. I just think that it is going to be really hard to do so because I think reviewers are really going to set the bar high for this game as far as expectations go and in the end I really think that is going to be the downfall of this game not reaching a 10.

[QUOTE="bano123"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]No. I think from what we've seen so far it's MUCH too similar to gears 1 imo.angelkimne

Isn't that a good thing? When you have a winning formula, why change it?

Which i don't think it will.

Personally i think it will end up like R6V:2.

Like GTA4 and MGS4? LOL.. GTA4 was a dumbed down version of the previous ones and MGS4 was very similar to the previous ones.

no; the first one was an overhyped mess that scored as high as it did because of the next gen WOW effect.

the PC version, which was by all means better, got the score that gears DESERVERD.

no; the first one was an overhyped mess that scored as high as it did because of the next gen WOW effect.

the PC version, which was by all means better, got the score that gears DESERVERD.

mistervengeance

so .6 more of a score is an over-hyped mess?

also people demanding 10 rated games to be massively innovative and completely new need to attempt to get back to reality.

Could it get a ten? Possibly considering that lame fest known as MGS4 did.

I don't see it happening though. It'll be my most antipated title of the fall though.

[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]

Any sequel to a high rated game can get a 10 if it improves. Its not just opinion, thats Gamespot fact.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="tupapi006"]

i don`t think any game can score a perfect 10 its just stupid ...

NO game is perfect but you know here on gamespot Yes it can

marklarmer

10 doesn't mean it's perfect. it means it's as close to perfect as a game can get.

Which makes GTA4 a puzzling case. Anyways, if they improve on Gears1 it will be a 10. After GTA3 and the rivals started popping up, I feel like each GTA game has been less and less impressive and revolutionary when compared to its competition. Every game implements the things that GTA3 introduced. Its old hat now, nothing impressive about sand box gameplay. However, technically GTA4 did add new features so technically its score MUST go up compared to the others.

According to GS, GTA4 is a better game than the entire PS2, N64, XBox, Gamecube, Dreamcast and PS1 libraries with the exception of Tony Hawk 3 (PS2), Chrono Cross (PS1), Soul Caliber (DC) and Ocarina of Time (N64). Hell, there is no xbox or gamecube game thats anywhere near as good as GTA4. When you sum up GTA4, it trumps everything on PS2 except Tony Hawk 3? Chrono Cross is the only PS1 game thats as good as GTA4? Thats a ludicrous statement. I don't think anyone who works for or posts at Gamespot would honestly stand up and say something as ridiculous as that... which goes to show how ridiculous their game ratings have become.

god i wish people would stop trying to compare games of different genres, games aren't reviewed like that.

I disagree. So how do you read a review? Is a 10 in GTA's genre really a 6 in other genres? If GS makes reviews like that, I think the system is far more broken than anyone would have ever believed.

Also, the first half of my post compares GTA4 to GTA3 and it's spin offs.

The blue portion is there so that when you read it, it sounds as ridiculous as I want it to. I think its valid. There seems to be a thing that games shouldn't be judged by their competition. I agree that it shouldn't be a major factor, but when you game is basically the same as a bunch of other titles, but technically it has improved so you feel you can never give it a lower score. Over time the series has gone from really unique to the same as everyone else making games like this... it added gun action that put finally put it up to par with competing games and it added physics so realistic that I can shoot a wooden door with a rocket launcher and it will not only remain intact, it will remain locked.

So ragdoll physics... like practically every current gen game and shooting thats on par with its competition was enough to make it, what was the phrase, "as close to perfect as a game can get." Take the same old formula that hasn't changed in like 6 years, make your features equal to what your competitors have had for ages... and thats seen as close to perfect.

Closer to perfect and better than practically every game ever released.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="bano123"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]No. I think from what we've seen so far it's MUCH too similar to gears 1 imo.FantasySports02

Isn't that a good thing? When you have a winning formula, why change it?

Which i don't think it will.

Personally i think it will end up like R6V:2.

Like GTA4 and MGS4? LOL.. GTA4 was a dumbed down version of the previous ones and MGS4 was very similar to the previous ones.

You can't really make that comparison, seeing how GTA4 and MGS4 were from their older installments on the ps2. Yet Gears 2 is releasing on the same platform as Gears 1. Like others have mentioned, the game isn't adding much and won't have the wow factor that Gears 1 did.

The first one received a 9.6 which is equivalent to a 10.

bano123

9.6 =/= 10! Stop playing video games and go study some math.

[QUOTE="tupapi006"]

i don`t think any game can score a perfect 10 its just stupid ...

NO game is perfect but you know here on gamespot Yes it can

CaseyWegner

10 doesn't mean it's perfect. it means it's as close to perfect as a game can get.

Yeah that is why they changed it from "Perfect" to "Prime".

It wont get a 10 because there already is a gears on 360 so it wont be as impressive this time around.

I think it will get a 9 tho, maybe even 9.5.

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

no; the first one was an overhyped mess that scored as high as it did because of the next gen WOW effect.

the PC version, which was by all means better, got the score that gears DESERVERD.

marklarmer

so .6 more of a score is an over-hyped mess?

also people demanding 10 rated games to be massively innovative and completely new need to attempt to get back to reality.

1. as scores get higher, even a .1 difference is enormous. nobody cares whether a game gets 4.5 or 4, it deosn't really matter, you can get the message that it's a bad game. however, the difference between a 9.0 and a 9.6 is HUGE.

2. games do need to bring something new to be good. this is the reason nobody cares about madden anymore. even if a game is not largely innovative, it should bring some improvements to an earlier formula. this is the reason games like TP were a complete flop.

[QUOTE="bano123"]

The first one received a 9.6 which is equivalent to a 10.

Furycliff

9.6 =/= 10! Stop playing video games and go study some math.

However,since Gears of War was rated before Gamespot switched to the .5 system,he may actually have a point,since 9.6 rounds up to 10.

[QUOTE="Furycliff"][QUOTE="bano123"]

The first one received a 9.6 which is equivalent to a 10.

789shadow

9.6 =/= 10! Stop playing video games and go study some math.

However,since Gears of War was rated before Gamespot switched to the .5 system,he may actually have a point,since 9.6 rounds up to 10.

This has been dealt with so many times. STOP thinking of it as 9.6. They don't play a game and say "well this feels like a 7.7, so I'll round up/down." NO. They say, "This is 7.5" or "this is 8.0." The 9.6 means nothing. It's as if it never existed at all.