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#1 EdenProxy
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http://raptr.com/DualPixels/news/4de3d21a46bb034f60/hackers-working-on-another-major-plot-against-sony-dual-pixels

With sony in its current financial state do you think well placed network breaches could kill sony within the next year ?

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They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.
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#3 GreenGoblin2099
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They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.ferret-gamer

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

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They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.ferret-gamer
The last bee sting is costing sony millions and million. The store is still not back up and consumer trust is dead.
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#5 AtlanticRock
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Sony is immortal.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.GreenGoblin2099

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.
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#7 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.Ace6301

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.

Well, that's pretty much a given, but I guess we're talking about the gaming division here since we're... well, in a gaming forum.

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#8 EdenProxy
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.Ace6301

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.

Sony as a whole is dieing. Theyir stock is way down and the psn attack didn't help. If you think things like this are minor inconveniences your sadly mistaken.
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#9 Dr_Snood
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Kill off Sony? Please.. Sony has much more then a gaming department and even then I don't see them hurting them that much to the point where they cause Sony to completely end their gaming department.

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#10 flashn00b
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Gaming isn't the only thing Sony has to offer.

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#11 Shenmue_Jehuty
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probably not! But they could create quite the strain on them, as they have shown with PSN.

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http://raptr.com/DualPixels/news/4de3d21a46bb034f60/hackers-working-on-another-major-plot-against-sony-dual-pixels

With sony in its current financial state do you think well placed network breaches could kill sony within the next year ?

EdenProxy

a. sony is not in bad state, only the one in charge of the playstation, b. no they cant kill it, c. sony made a huge mistake running servers with old software and without physical firewall, i think they learned their lesson, if it was that easy to hack and destroy a companny by hackers, they would have done so long ago just because they can, but they cannot once sony runs decent servers.

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They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.ferret-gamer

No real damage?! Blashpemy! The April 2011 attacks was like a gunshot to the abdomen for Sony! :P

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#14 KungfuKitten
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They could for a big part. Should they? No I don't see why.
Electronics companies are very reliant on internet, infrastructure, reputation, etc.

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#15 flashn00b
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.ScottMescudi

No real damage?! Blashpemy! The April 2011 attacks was like a gunshot to the abdomen for Sony! :P

More like a shot to the leg. Crippling, but they'll get up eventually.

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#16 Androvinus
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It definitely could kill sony's gaming devision unfortunately. Sony has not been doing well for a long time and the recent intrusion has done massive damage.
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#17 Silverbond
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Well, 13C, what nobody really knows is that Sony is already dead.

It's a plot twist, you see.

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#18 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.GreenGoblin2099

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

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#19 TheSterls
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It definitely could kill sony's gaming devision unfortunately. Sony has not been doing well for a long time and the recent intrusion has done massive damage.Androvinus

Sony has reported profit 14 years in a row :|

Although there hardware has caused massive losses they still turned profit with game sales.

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#20 DethSkematik
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The only thing that can kill Sony is the Apocalypse.
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.TheSterls

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

$40 billion to spend :lol: The market value for Sony is only 27 billion and their stocks are on a downward slope.

Also Sony to post an annual loss of $3.2 billion for its fiscal year ending in March 2011 - the second largest loss in company history

Sony as a whole not just gaming division are not doing that great.

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#22 beganoo
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The reality is that none of us can know 100%. I sure hope not but anything can happen. Never underestimate hackers.

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#23 Uesugi-dono
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No, it can't kill Sony because of people like me. I turst Sony implicitly; I always have. You can't erase customer loyalty with a hacker's attack. None of this was Sony's fault; it was Anonymous. I support Sony, and I am legion.
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#24 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

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To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.

Sony as a whole is dieing. Theyir stock is way down and the psn attack didn't help. If you think things like this are minor inconveniences your sadly mistaken.

We're in a recession. Everyone's stocks are way down.
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#25 Dogswithguns
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Oh yeah.. possible kill the online communities.
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#26 r12qi
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PSN hack to sony is like earthquake to japan. it make massive problem but not enough to destroy/kill sony/japan.

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#27 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

rybe1025

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

$40 billion to spend :lol: The market value for Sony is only 27 billion and their stocks are on a downward slope.

Also Sony to post an annual loss of $3.2 billion for its fiscal year ending in March 2011 - the second largest loss in company history

Sony as a whole not just gaming division are not doing that great.

Market value does not include all cash assets. That is what is owned by investors. And that was there second loss they posted in 16 years.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6203085.html

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#28 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

TheSterls

$40 billion to spend :lol: The market value for Sony is only 27 billion and their stocks are on a downward slope.

Also Sony to post an annual loss of $3.2 billion for its fiscal year ending in March 2011 - the second largest loss in company history

Sony as a whole not just gaming division are not doing that great.

Market value does not include all cash assets. That is what is owned by investors. And that was there second loss they posted in 16 years.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6203085.html

2009 $1.03 billion loss

2010 $439 million loss

2011 $3.2 billion loss

So 3 years in a row now

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#29 hippiesanta
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Navy Seals will get hackers before hackers assasinate sony
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#30 r12qi
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Market value does not include all cash assets. That is what is owned by investors. And that was there second loss they posted in 16 years.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6203085.html

rybe1025

2009 $1.03 billion loss

2010 $439 million loss

2011 $3.2 billion loss

So 3 years in a row now

the last one is becouse 3 years of prepaid cash, they actually make profit if without tax.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/23/uk-sony-idUKTRE74M12X20110523

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431420

becouse the tax is alredy been paid. sony future actually brighter

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#31 D3dr0_0
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They could harm Sony, but they can't kill it.

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#32 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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No hackers wont bring Sony down, but i sure hope they change how Sony treats their costumers.
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give me £100 (cause im skint) a baseball bat,a blow torch and a pair of plyers and i'll f up these hill billy hackers *puts on gloves*

Seriously if they force sony out the market its a sad day and shows how pathetically relentless they are and the fact they should maybe just give up on life if their aim is to be butthurt at otheros being removed but most are bandwagoning little freaks.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

GreenGoblin2099

To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.

Well, that's pretty much a given, but I guess we're talking about the gaming division here since we're... well, in a gaming forum.

Then why are we even talking about this? Since the PSN attack there hasn't been any hacks in the gaming division, and the latest "master plan" pertains to their music company BMG. They're talking about taking Sony out as a whole, and it just won't happen. Even if Sony had to shut down all its consumer networks until they could get everything sorted out and secure and broken up into as many servers as possible, people would still be buying their Sony Bravias, PS3s, Bloggies, Cybershots, Vaios, and the thousands of other high-end products they sell.

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#35 calvinsora
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Sony has way more to live on than just gaming. So no.

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#36 KevinPlanet
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Current financial state? Sony earns billions in annual revenue

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#37 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.MrSelf-Destruct

Well, that's pretty much a given, but I guess we're talking about the gaming division here since we're... well, in a gaming forum.

Then why are we even talking about this? Since the PSN attack there has been no hasn't been any hacks in the gaming division, and the latest "master plan" pertains to their music company BMG. They're talking about taking Sony out as a whole, and it just won't happen. Even if Sony had to shut down all its consumer networks until they could get everything sorted out and secure and broken up into as many servers as possible, people would still be buying their Sony Bravias, PS3s, Bloggies, Cybershots, Vaios, and the thousands of other high tend products they sell.

im cool with them attacking BMG tbh that division of sony can suck my balls but its now Sony music considering how their epic division managed to f up royally on LOG CD distribution in most of europe for a while and poor marketting for their bands that werent "in" cause of the likes of Simon cowell who is a cancer on music and should be killed.

Sony should just cut off Syco music as Simon cowell throws way too much weight in an industry he knows nothing about imo.

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#38 HaloPimp978
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PSN hack to sony is like earthquake to japan. it make massive problem but not enough to destroy/kill sony/japan.

r12qi

Great comparison. You can hurt Sony, but you won't be able to destroy them completely. They still have their music division,movie division,TV division and electronic division ,so hackers wish they could destroy Sony but that won't happen.

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People should realize how much this can hurt the industry, the consumer, and the general population as a whole. If a group of hackers can take down a multi-billion dollar corporation, don't you think governments and corporations would get involved to find out a way that they could stop people like that from operating at all? The amounts of services and conveniences that are offered by a lot of companies may be stripped down to nothing as the companies try to protect their investments as best they can. Consumer products might be designed to be even more hack-proof and (much like DRM) will be done in a way that only hurts the legitimate customers. Governments may act by creating laws that take even more consumer freedoms away. Everyone knows that the US government is more concerned with protecting big business than they are individual rights, so I wouldn't be surprised if the internet was put on lockdown so that we can only access what they want us to have access to and things like product modification could land you a quarter million dollar fine or something. They all see what's going on here and if they put it to mind that they want to make sure it never happens again there's no telling what they will do.
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#40 AugustusGraham
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

GreenGoblin2099

To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.

Well, that's pretty much a given, but I guess we're talking about the gaming division here since we're... well, in a gaming forum.

The PSN and Sony situation is MUCH more than an annoyance. In fact it is financially and otherwise horribly detrimental to Sony. Plus, for them to ever consider cutting off the gaming section as you say in your post would be a GIANT financial blunder.

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#41 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Well, that's pretty much a given, but I guess we're talking about the gaming division here since we're... well, in a gaming forum.

razgriz_101

Then why are we even talking about this? Since the PSN attack there has been no hasn't been any hacks in the gaming division, and the latest "master plan" pertains to their music company BMG. They're talking about taking Sony out as a whole, and it just won't happen. Even if Sony had to shut down all its consumer networks until they could get everything sorted out and secure and broken up into as many servers as possible, people would still be buying their Sony Bravias, PS3s, Bloggies, Cybershots, Vaios, and the thousands of other high tend products they sell.

im cool with them attacking BMG tbh that division of sony can suck my balls but its now Sony music considering how their epic division managed to f up royally on LOG CD distribution in most of europe for a while and poor marketting for their bands that werent "in" cause of the likes of Simon cowell who is a cancer on music and should be killed.

Sony should just cut off Syco music as Simon cowell throws way too much weight in an industry he knows nothing about imo.

Gah, I remember getting those BMG music offers where they give you like 5 CDs for the prices of 1 and then just send you a random CD every month and expect you to pay for it. I was hoping they would die right then and there. They can take Simon Cow with them. :P
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.EdenProxy
The last bee sting is costing sony millions and million. The store is still not back up and consumer trust is dead.

"Customer trust is dead?" speak for yourself
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#43 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

EdenProxy

To Sony as a whole it's an annoyance. These people have no hope of doing anything meaningful to Sony. They could end up causing Sony to just say f*** it and cut off the gaming section if they keep it up long enough though. I doubt they have that much power though.

Sony as a whole is dieing. Theyir stock is way down and the psn attack didn't help. If you think things like this are minor inconveniences your sadly mistaken.

sony as a whole is HUGE. Their not dying. Should do your research before you make such claims.

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#44 Animal-Mother
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Ohh also, for the people who complain about how we can't do what we want with our systems.

It's because of attacks like this that they don't allow us to. We blame sony. But I blame the hackers.

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#45 viper-kid
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give me £100 (cause im skint) a baseball bat,a blow torch and a pair of plyers and i'll f up these hill billy hackers *puts on gloves*

Seriously if they force sony out the market its a sad day and shows how pathetically relentless they are and the fact they should maybe just give up on life if their aim is to be butthurt at otheros being removed but most are bandwagoning little freaks.

razgriz_101
Its funny you guys insulting them and making assumptions like 'hur dur get a girlz frind'. But in all honesty do you think they care? also on an article they even said 'The fun wont stop' describing their next attack for when the store is up. They are no longer fighting for the customer now so they don't care about our opinions. Also when you saying 'can they kill sony' they take that as a challenge so its not a wise thread.
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#46 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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The last attack cost Sony--a multi billion dollar company--170 million in damages. I mean, that's still a lot regardless but I don't think it's enough to bankrupt the company.
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#47 MrSelf-Destruct
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

give me £100 (cause im skint) a baseball bat,a blow torch and a pair of plyers and i'll f up these hill billy hackers *puts on gloves*

Seriously if they force sony out the market its a sad day and shows how pathetically relentless they are and the fact they should maybe just give up on life if their aim is to be butthurt at otheros being removed but most are bandwagoning little freaks.

viper-kid
Its funny you guys insulting them and making assumptions like 'hur dur get a girlz frind'. But in all honesty do you think they care? also on an article they even said 'The fun wont stop' describing their next attack for when the store is up. They are no longer fighting for the customer now so they don't care about our opinions. Also when you saying 'can they kill sony' they take that as a challenge so its not a wise thread.

It's funny that you care what other people say about them. If they don't care about our opinions why should you? lol
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#48 Crystal-Rush
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If it were to kill of their gaming department (highly unlikely) then there's a possibility that other departments will feel the sting. After all The Playstation brand was first and foremost a testing ground for their technology and features eg. DVD,Bluray, cell, media capabilities, networking, while gaming itself took a backseat. Without their gaming division Sony wont have anywhere to test the market without making huge risks.

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#49 limonman32
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If Sony took this this network and security rebuilding seriously, then they should have some of best security in the business for the gaming division. It might be the case that such a huge breach of PSN is not possible anymore. Due to Nintendo's inexperience with online networks they might be the low hanging fruit of the game industry so to speak.

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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

give me £100 (cause im skint) a baseball bat,a blow torch and a pair of plyers and i'll f up these hill billy hackers *puts on gloves*

Seriously if they force sony out the market its a sad day and shows how pathetically relentless they are and the fact they should maybe just give up on life if their aim is to be butthurt at otheros being removed but most are bandwagoning little freaks.

MrSelf-Destruct
Its funny you guys insulting them and making assumptions like 'hur dur get a girlz frind'. But in all honesty do you think they care? also on an article they even said 'The fun wont stop' describing their next attack for when the store is up. They are no longer fighting for the customer now so they don't care about our opinions. Also when you saying 'can they kill sony' they take that as a challenge so its not a wise thread.

It's funny that you care what other people say about them. If they don't care about our opinions why should you? lol

I just find it funny is all and seems like your wasting your time trying to preach to them. well if they attack I hope its just before E3 for the lulz.